tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1001156153899984046.post2996941304115880755..comments2024-03-29T07:15:33.972-04:00Comments on Jungle Red Writers: Kate Carlisle and the State of the CozyJungle Red Writershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16646429819267618412noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1001156153899984046.post-30110893024063695762011-01-27T01:18:21.655-05:002011-01-27T01:18:21.655-05:00Cozies seem "cozier" these days, what wi...Cozies seem "cozier" these days, what with most of them having female protags, a romantic interest, and often a female-centric career. I have an ensemble sleuthing cast of two guys and a gal, no romance, and a geeky workplace (travel mag of spooky/paranormal destinations), so I usually call my upcoming series "amateur sleuth," but they're still cozies if you're talking about a limited location and no gore/violence on the page. I do think that female-centric genres get no respect. As if thrillers with non-stop violence, limited character development, and actions that are included simply for shock/ludicrousness value (I'm lookin' at you, Carl Hiaasen, with your weed-whacker prosthetic-armed villain), are WAY better literature. Yuh-huh.Esri Rosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12329547309752835833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1001156153899984046.post-2529625045002698802011-01-26T21:33:22.230-05:002011-01-26T21:33:22.230-05:00I agree. Works primarily created by women, primari...I agree. Works primarily created by women, primarily consumed by women, automatically get judged as less worthy. When Tom Perrotta writes about love, families and failing marriages among the middle class, it's literature (and gets made into a major motion picture.) When Nancy Thayer does it, it's "Women's Fiction."Julia Spencer-Fleminghttp://www.juliaspencerfleming.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1001156153899984046.post-12738478951093034532011-01-26T19:14:04.784-05:002011-01-26T19:14:04.784-05:00Hi Donis! {{waving!}}
Donis was at our big book s...Hi Donis! {{waving!}}<br /><br />Donis was at our big book signing in Phoenix over the weekend -- and her newest Alafair Tucker mystery, CRYING BLOOD, comes out this weekend. Yay!!<br /><br />Donis, I'm not sure where I read it or heard it, but someone smarter than me said recently that the reason romance and mystery get a bum rap from some quarters is because our books tend to bring order (or closure or calm or happiness) to the protagonist's world. That is, in a romance, they live happily ever after. In a mystery, justice prevails. Any thoughts?Kate Carlislehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16863555050062113192noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1001156153899984046.post-51658195508952675842011-01-26T19:05:45.697-05:002011-01-26T19:05:45.697-05:00Oh Silver, hi!! Great to see you over here! And th...Oh Silver, hi!! Great to see you over here! And thanks so much for loving Brooklyn. :-)<br /><br />I don't know what the dissing is all about. Actually, I don't even really feel dissed most of the time. Or maybe it's just that I don't get out much. LOL ... that's the answer. Stay home! Snork!Kate Carlislehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16863555050062113192noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1001156153899984046.post-32727156471753963192011-01-26T19:01:41.690-05:002011-01-26T19:01:41.690-05:00Hi Jan, thanks for the welcome! I love visiting y&...Hi Jan, thanks for the welcome! I love visiting y'all here!Kate Carlislehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16863555050062113192noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1001156153899984046.post-71847879761844718962011-01-26T18:55:22.361-05:002011-01-26T18:55:22.361-05:00Hallie, I know some men who read Agatha Christie! ...Hallie, I know some men who read Agatha Christie! I won't name any names and blow their cover, but they're out there. *g* <br /><br />It's always fun to get a note from a reader who's male or read a review of my book written by a man. It's interesting that they tend to focus on different aspects of the book than a woman might. I wonder if anyone else has had that experience.Kate Carlislehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16863555050062113192noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1001156153899984046.post-86470374793610817262011-01-26T18:46:06.333-05:002011-01-26T18:46:06.333-05:00Hey, Hank, I love the term "Medium-boiled!&qu...Hey, Hank, I love the term "Medium-boiled!" :-)<br /><br />I usually tell people that I write "traditional" mysteries, but I don't really mind being called a cozy author either. Hey, as long as they call me "author," that's pretty cool!Kate Carlislehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16863555050062113192noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1001156153899984046.post-90036745634887919032011-01-26T17:02:23.679-05:002011-01-26T17:02:23.679-05:00I have a sneaking suspicion that even though they&...I have a sneaking suspicion that even though they'd never admit it, some of the "literati" sneer at cozies and romances because they deal with subjects that tend to appeal more to women. I read an article by Erica Jong a while back in which she said there's an assumption among critics that war matters and love does not. Fortunately for us, readers know what matters to them.Donis Caseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15207228706777377242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1001156153899984046.post-45284121911946813382011-01-26T16:08:39.705-05:002011-01-26T16:08:39.705-05:00Oh, lucky you to spend an afternoon with Kate. She...Oh, lucky you to spend an afternoon with Kate. She. Cracks. Me. Up! I love her Brooklyn Wainwright books (and her romances). Really...what's up with dissing cozies and romances? People who look down their noses are either missing the point (and a LOT of good books) or they're secretly reading them on their Kindles. Just sayin'...Silver Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15606837105470988646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1001156153899984046.post-82061905020940115982011-01-26T14:57:14.273-05:002011-01-26T14:57:14.273-05:00Hallie,
I think being made a PBS series neutralize...Hallie,<br />I think being made a PBS series neutralizes the bias.<br /><br />That being said, being made into a PBS series speaks well of the cozy, don't you think.<br /><br />Welcome Kate -- nice to see you here again.Jan Broganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11323983086318138814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1001156153899984046.post-40458765873270181102011-01-26T13:50:35.874-05:002011-01-26T13:50:35.874-05:00Do you think only women read Miss Marple mysteries...Do you think only women read Miss Marple mysteries? Or is there something about being British and old that neutralizes the bias.Hallie Ephronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04759439029582054503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1001156153899984046.post-87660185033313151362011-01-26T09:57:58.489-05:002011-01-26T09:57:58.489-05:00Cozy, huh? I know writers are frustrated with the ...Cozy, huh? I know writers are frustrated with the sneering that sometimes accompanies the word--but hey, "cozies" are some of the most popular mysteries in the genre! SO people can sneer--but the successful writers are cozying their way to the bank--and to tons of fans.<br /><br />Problem is, "cozy" cuts men right out of the equation. Anyone who writes real cozies(and I say that in them most complimentary way)--is that a concern for you?<br /><br /><br />I don't think my books are cozy--the fabulous Crimespree (xox) called them medium-boiled. <br /><br />I think there's a big "traditional" movement now, right?Hank Phillippi Ryanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17420701704169428286noreply@blogger.com