tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1001156153899984046.post7030922936984056168..comments2024-03-19T08:55:53.122-04:00Comments on Jungle Red Writers: True Crime in FictionJungle Red Writershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16646429819267618412noreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1001156153899984046.post-1235467940308441132011-02-18T21:54:40.365-05:002011-02-18T21:54:40.365-05:00I only knew one...Midnight in the Garden of Good a...I only knew one...Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil.Pat Marinellinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1001156153899984046.post-46474244059964309232011-02-16T08:29:19.207-05:002011-02-16T08:29:19.207-05:00Bad hair? Really?
I think that "I'm a v...Bad hair? Really? <br /><br />I think that "I'm a victim" thing is what a lot of criminals do to justify their crimes. Most, anyway, don't see themselves as evil.<br /><br />Getting back to Deborah's point, that's the more interesting criminal for me, too, rather than some nefarious evil killer.<br /><br />Thanks for the comment, Dave - will look them up!Hallie Ephronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04759439029582054503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1001156153899984046.post-69308572418733624702011-02-15T21:53:02.239-05:002011-02-15T21:53:02.239-05:00I was aware of 1,2, and 6.
To add to the list, bot...I was aware of 1,2, and 6.<br />To add to the list, both my "Partners" and "Homesteader" have true crime stories included. In both cases I moved the date so it would fit in with my story, but other than that the crimes and results (or lack of same) were as I describe.<br />Dave<br />www.dmmcgowan.blogspot.comD.M. McGowanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05008773391981989236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1001156153899984046.post-55100100921828821362011-02-15T21:21:10.199-05:002011-02-15T21:21:10.199-05:00And, because we're pals...and yo understand. I...And, because we're pals...and yo understand. I just found a HUGE mistake in my current ms. Wow wow wow how could I have DONE that??<br /><br />I fixed it. But yikes. CHAPTERS later, I realized--OH NO!!!<br /><br />This mystery stuff is difficult. <br />:-)Hank Phillippi Ryanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17420701704169428286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1001156153899984046.post-75375263087351639382011-02-15T21:19:43.680-05:002011-02-15T21:19:43.680-05:00I know I know!! And he's one of my favorite fa...I know I know!! And he's one of my favorite favorite authors. I do NOT understand why he's not more famous I really don't. DH, right?<br /><br />Maynard. Near France. SO funny.<br /><br />And what I remember about Pam Smart? Bad hair, sadly. And this attidude like--she couldn't believe there was all this criticism. Or that anyone could believe she'd done anything wrong. YOu could tell she felt like she was a VICTIM. She sort of radiated that she felt the whole thing was so unfair to her.<br /><br />I have her face conflated with NIcle Kidman's in my brain, also sadly...but she was not as gorgeous as Nicole. Not even close. What a sad and pitiful story.Hank Phillippi Ryanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17420701704169428286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1001156153899984046.post-74472264973682370642011-02-15T20:06:47.578-05:002011-02-15T20:06:47.578-05:00Okay I knew none of them. Greed and lust must be m...Okay I knew none of them. Greed and lust must be my "cup of tea" too.Lucy Burdette aka Roberta Isleibhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04660402177299546055noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1001156153899984046.post-26698025085591308672011-02-15T14:57:28.801-05:002011-02-15T14:57:28.801-05:00I remember! But I'm not telling... Last name s...I remember! But I'm not telling... Last name starts with "H" -- and wasn't the author at last year's Crime Bake?Hallie Ephronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04759439029582054503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1001156153899984046.post-84710762117452413752011-02-15T14:30:13.793-05:002011-02-15T14:30:13.793-05:00ACK! I should know this...ACK! I should know this...Hallie Ephronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04759439029582054503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1001156153899984046.post-46135903006207254872011-02-15T14:09:06.024-05:002011-02-15T14:09:06.024-05:00I guess I like to read true crime. The only one I ...I guess I like to read true crime. The only one I didn't get was #4 Book of Evidence.<br /><br />What recently released mystery was about who stole the paintings in the Isabella Gardener museum Heist.<br /><br />Clue: it's a local author.Jan Broganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11323983086318138814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1001156153899984046.post-54604758855527628672011-02-15T13:59:22.980-05:002011-02-15T13:59:22.980-05:00That's so cute, Hank--my daughter used to thin...That's so cute, Hank--my daughter used to think the city where I worked, Maynard, was in France. <br /><br />I agree, Deborah - greed and lust do it for me.<br /><br />Ruth, I'd forgotten about that one. And Oates often draws from real crimes -- I know she's got a short story based on Andrea Yates who drowned her 5 kids in a bathtub. She's drawn to despair.Hallie Ephronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04759439029582054503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1001156153899984046.post-19727442055243400532011-02-15T13:31:02.891-05:002011-02-15T13:31:02.891-05:00I only knew the first two, and haven't actuall...I only knew the first two, and haven't actually read the books. I suppose that's an indication that I've never had much interest in sensational crimes, being more intrigued by "ordinary" murders, if there is such a thing.Deborah Crombiehttp://www.deborahcrombie.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1001156153899984046.post-50306195038556403822011-02-15T12:56:48.194-05:002011-02-15T12:56:48.194-05:00OH, this is so off topic, kind of, but only you al...OH, this is so off topic, kind of, but only you all will get it.<br /><br />I was at breakfast,this weekend, with a group, including 4 1/2 year old Georgia. Adorable, beyond adorable, blond hair, little wire-rimmed glasses. ANyway--she says:<br /><br />Aunt Hank, do you know the movie High Society?<br />Yes, I say, I love it.<br />She nods, sagely. Me too, she says. But what is the name of the land where it takes place?Hank Phillippi Ryanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17420701704169428286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1001156153899984046.post-5901982894275622752011-02-15T12:16:05.900-05:002011-02-15T12:16:05.900-05:00"Black Water" by Joyce Carol Oates. Def..."Black Water" by Joyce Carol Oates. Definitely based on Chappaquiddick.Ruth M McCartyhttp://www.ruthmmccarty.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1001156153899984046.post-54201221727926188262011-02-15T12:05:54.961-05:002011-02-15T12:05:54.961-05:00The only one I didn't get was The Book of Evid...The only one I didn't get was The Book of Evidence - I may need to read that! Love Anatomy of a Murder. I probably watch that once a year. The judge was great and he was the lawyer who famously asked Sen. McCarthy "have you no decency?" <br />Girl on the Red Velvet Swing was a movie with..if I'm not mistaken Farley Granger and Joan Collins..maybe Ray Milland? Now I'll have to google..scary if I'm right. RoJungle Red Writershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16646429819267618412noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1001156153899984046.post-9073230225698024042011-02-15T11:49:49.333-05:002011-02-15T11:49:49.333-05:00I got The Black Dahlia and Midnight in the Garden ...I got The Black Dahlia and Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil. My aunt used to live in Savannah. I love that city.Melissa Robbinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11660227475140255088noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1001156153899984046.post-54618349390906264442011-02-15T10:47:49.543-05:002011-02-15T10:47:49.543-05:00I only got two right, proving that I shy away from...I only got two right, proving that I shy away from brutal, violent or sensational crimes. <br />I did read Devil in the White City, however, and was about to chime in that it was a true crime--I was interested because I set Death of Riley in the same situation at the assassination of President McKinleyRhys Bowenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06663634889908752121noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1001156153899984046.post-50122469145202723322011-02-15T10:28:19.167-05:002011-02-15T10:28:19.167-05:00Alas is right. Dr. H. H. Holmes was one scary dude...Alas is right. Dr. H. H. Holmes was one scary dude.Hallie Ephronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04759439029582054503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1001156153899984046.post-4600880333678561862011-02-15T09:56:54.282-05:002011-02-15T09:56:54.282-05:00"Devil in the White City" is not a novel..."Devil in the White City" is not a novel.It is, alas, true crime.<br />EJ Wagner. (The Science of Sherlock Holmes")E. J. Wagnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09161146511674296277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1001156153899984046.post-8346938152969641502011-02-15T09:17:59.349-05:002011-02-15T09:17:59.349-05:00Steve - I don't know Girl on a Swing, but the ...Steve - I don't know Girl on a Swing, but the murder of Stanford White inspired part of the plot of Doctorow's Ragtime.<br /><br />YES! "Anatomy of a Murder" (the novel, not the Otto Preminger film) was written by Michigan Supreme Court Justice John D. Voelker under the pen name Robert Traver. He wrote in a prologue in the first edition: "This is the story of a murder, of a murder trial, and of some of the people who engaged or became enmeshed in the proceedings. Enmeshed is a good word, for murder, of all crimes, seems to posses to a greater degree than any other that compelling magnetic quality that draws people helplessly into its outspreading net, frequently to their surprise, and occasionally to their horror."Hallie Ephronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04759439029582054503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1001156153899984046.post-50820959931676836492011-02-15T09:16:27.329-05:002011-02-15T09:16:27.329-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Hallie Ephronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04759439029582054503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1001156153899984046.post-15777574199121806492011-02-15T09:04:12.343-05:002011-02-15T09:04:12.343-05:00Spill, Hank! Did you see her in person? What was s...Spill, Hank! Did you see her in person? What was she like.<br /><br />Right! "An Inconvenient Woman" -- based on the scandal when Alfred Bloomingdale got sued by his mistress Vicki Morgan for palimony (remember that?). Bloomingdale was part of Reagan's inner circle, and his wife one of Nancy Reagan's closest friends. After Morgan was murdered, there were rumors of videotapes implicating other members of the Reagan coterie in kinky sex games. An acquaintance of Morgan's was arrested and the "tapes" disappeared. Dunne said in an interview about this book:'One of the themes that goes through all my work concerns people who go underpunished because of privilege,''Hallie Ephronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04759439029582054503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1001156153899984046.post-40253479343813383102011-02-15T08:48:52.878-05:002011-02-15T08:48:52.878-05:00Wow, I actually knew three of these, which probabl...Wow, I actually knew three of these, which probably says something about my proclivities and companions, doesn't it?<br /><br />I don't remember the authors, but wasn't Girl On A Swing based on the Sanford White case in the early 20th Century, and didn't Anatomy of a Murder stem from a case in Michigan in the 1950's?Steve Liskowhttp://www.steveliskow.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1001156153899984046.post-44126390519792960822011-02-15T08:26:06.094-05:002011-02-15T08:26:06.094-05:00What a fun quiz! (I actually covered the Pamela Sm...What a fun quiz! (I actually covered the Pamela Smart story..)<br /><br />There's the Dominick Dunne's "An Inconvenient Woman" right? And Tom Tryon's Blood and Money, which is terrific.<br /><br />Off to work, but more later on those..Hank Phillippi Ryanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17420701704169428286noreply@blogger.com