Wednesday, April 3, 2024

SJ Rozan and The Murder of Mr. Ma

DEBORAH CROMBIE: I am a big fan of SJ Rozan's Bill Smith and Lydia Chin books (loved the latest, THE MAYORS OF NEW YORK) so when I began to see the buzz for THE MURDER OF MR. MA, written with co-author John Shen Yen Nee, I was so intrigued. Not New York, and not contemporary--it's set in 1920s London! 

And what buzz this book is generating, with starred reviews in Library Journal and Publisher's Weekly just the beginning! So of course I wrote to SJ to say, "Tell me more!!" and here she is to explain this latest adventure.


  
 

Wait, How Did This Happen?

SJ Rozan

 

Deborah Crombie, in inviting me to do this guest blog (Thanks, Debs!) around the publication of THE MURDER OF MR. MA, thought folks might be interested in how the collaboration between me and John Shen Yen Nee, former publisher of Marvel Comics, began. Did we know each other? Did we develop this idea together, and then assign roles? Were we both devotees of Judge Dee and Lao She? Did we both always secretly harbor a desire to write books set in London, books set in the 1920's?

The answer to all but one of those questions is no. Separately, John and I had both long since discovered and devoured the Judge Dee books and films. But neither of us had ever looked longingly at London, or the 1920's. I, for my part, had heard of but never read Lao She.  And we'd never heard of each other.

John's one of those people whose mind is like an explosion in a fireworks factory, if ideas were fireworks. And he's more widely read than anyone else I've ever met. Early in the pandemic, when one thing we all pretty much had on our hands was time alone, John worked on developing this one idea: that Judge Dee would move forward about 1,000 years (he was a real jurist in Tang Dynasty China) and partner with Lao She (a real 20th century Chinese novelist) and they'd solve crimes. In London, in 1924.


Covent Garden, 1920s

At least, starting in 1924. Lao She was in London then, beginning his writing career. It was a time of great change in China, full of events little known in the West. John envisioned a series that spanned the history of modern China and wove some of that history in with murder, detection, and martial arts. A Holmes-and-Watson-y vibe from a Chinese angle. Plus kung fu.

But John, as he'll be the first to tell you, is not a narrative writer. He'd put together an outline (spanning sixteen single-spaced pages: remember that fireworks factory explosion) and needed someone to make it into a novel.

Luckily for me, he knew Alex Segura, from the comics world. Alex recommended John call Josh Getzler, his agent. Josh is also my agent, and when John told him what he needed, Josh called me. When I said I was interested, Josh suggested John read some of my books. He did, and they worked for him. He sent me the outline.

The outline worked for me, in a big way. Though "big" also describes the outline. John and I talked, and talked. I knew we could work together when he told me what in the outline was really important to him, and what was negotiable. It wasn't which things were which; it was that he could separate them.

So we started working together, by which I mean, John started to send me books, and I started to read. Chinese modern history, British literary criticism, books about Lao She, books by Lao She. I also started researching London in the 1920's. Clothes, cars, food, books, music. Finally, as I read and we trimmed the outline, came the moment I was ready to write a sample chapter.


London, George Alley, 1920s

The day I sent the sample chapter to John was a big deal. Writers will recognize this: The voice I was writing in, the narrative voice of our fictionalized Lao She, had spoken in my head. It was unchangeable. If John didn't like it, the collaboration had no future.

He loved it.

So we began seriously to work. Based on the outline, I'd write, ask questions, he'd give answers -- or say he didn't have an answer, so I'd invent one and run it by him -- he'd read and make suggestions, I'd take them or explain why I thought they weren't a great idea. We also hired a kung fu consultant, Master Paul Koh of Bo Law Kung Fu School, to choreograph the fight scenes, which I then put into Lao She's voice, or occasionally Judge Dee's, as he takes over the narrative sometimes.


Sifu Master Paul Koh

Yes, the outline and original characters were John's. Yes, the words as written are mine. But beyond those facts I'd be hard put to tell you what was John and what was me.  Someone recently asked John how the collaboration went. He said, "Like butter." I'd have to agree. Though throughout the process -- and even now, as we work on Book 2 -- I had to duck, every now and then, to avoid getting hit by a flying idea.

DEBS: Everything about this is right up alley--excuse me, I have to go read now! 

Here's more about SJBorn in the Bronx, SJ Rozan lives in lower Manhattan. She's a graduate of Oberlin College and was a practicing architect. Her novels and short stories have won multiple awards, including the Edgar, Shamus, Anthony, Nero, Macavity, and Japanese Maltese Falcon. She's received Life Achievement Awards from the Private Eye Writers of America and the Short Mystery Fiction Society. Her stories have appeared in "Best Of" collections, and she's edited three anthologies. She teaches a fiction writing workshop in Assisi, Italy, in the summer and she wants you all to come there. SJ's newest book, co-written with John Shen Yen Nee, is THE MURDER OF MR. MA. www.sjrozan.net


And more about THE MURDER OF MR. MA

London, 1924. When shy academic Lao She meets larger-than-life Judge Dee Ren Jie, his quiet life abruptly turns from books and lectures to daring chases and narrow escapes. Dee has come to London to investigate the murder of a man he’d known during World War I when serving with the Chinese Labour Corps. No sooner has Dee interviewed the grieving widow than another dead body turns up. Then another. All stabbed to death with a butterfly sword. Will Dee and Lao be able to connect the threads of the murders—or are they next in line as victims?

DEBS: Readers, Mr. Ma has a bit of Holmes pastiche, fascinating history and culture, some mouth-watering descriptions of food, and brilliant fight scenes. I love this kind of genre-bending. Share some of your favorites crossover novels with us, and stop in to chat with SJ!

PS One more bit of business! Flora, you are the winner of Susan Shea's MURDER AND THE MISSING DOG! Get in touch with Susan at scsauthor@mac.com.

43 comments:

  1. Congratulations on your newest book, SJ . . . this sounds like a perfect collaboration. I'm looking forward to reading your book.

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  2. What an amazing collaboration! Congratulations, SJ, and thanks for sharing the process with us. I bet more readers than me will learn new things about Chinese history in addition to all the cool things about London in that era.

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  3. Congratulations, S.J. I have been seeing this book everywhere and it is already on my TBR list. The cover is intriguing, too.
    Thank-you so much for telling us about your collaboration with John and the origin of the story. It is very interesting to learn how authors come to write books together, every collaboration is so different. As Edith said above, I believe I will learn a lot about Chinese history and culture when I read it.

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    1. I listened to a sample of the audio last night, Judy. Let us know if you give it a try.

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    2. I just sampled it. From the sample it seems like a terrific match of narrator to story, IMHO. I am not familiar with this narrator. I would definitely listen to it!

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  4. SJ Rozan: Welcome to Jungle Reds! I look forward to reading your mystery set in 1924 London. I seem to recall there was a Sherlock Holmes story about the detective meeting someone from China?

    And congratulations to the winner of Susan Shea's new novel.

    Diana

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    1. We did a Dee & Lao, Holmes & Watson story for EQQM, "The Murder of Henry Davenport," if that's what you mean.

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    2. PS -- That's me above.

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  5. Thanks for this peek behind the scenes of how this book came into being, SJ. I loved reading about your collaboration with John Shen Yen Nee.

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  6. Congratulations! Love the premise, characters, time period, setting. Did your research include a field trip to London?

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    1. Sadly, no field trip. Written during the pandemic. But so much of what was in London in 1924 is gone now anyway, destroyed in the Blitz or re-developed. London of a hundred years ago is now London of the imagination.

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  7. Wow SJ, this sounds amazing! Off to find it now...

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  8. Congrats! Love the cover. London - 1920's sounds fascinating!

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    1. Thanks! (If I replied as "Anonymous," are we the same person?)

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  9. Just yesterday I clicked on interested for your Poisoned Pen event on April 15 based on the title alone! So glad to find out about the book here too.

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  10. This sounds so cool. Congratulations to both of you!

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  11. Your book is getting some buzz! I had certainly heard of it and now that I know more, am looking forward to reading it. A genre bending book that I loved was The Weight of Ink by Rachel Kadish--mystery, historical fiction, two memorable women heroines and an epic read.

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    1. I thought The Weight of Ink was terrific!

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    2. I have had this on my Kindle for ages and haven't managed to get to it. Moving to the top of the list again...

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    3. I have many good books on my Kindle that I shuffle around regularly as I participate in discussions of authors and their books. No complaints here but, I blame ot squarely on finding JRW and letting you all lead me into temptation.

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    4. Yeah, you JRW folks are the devil on the shoulder.

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  12. Just yesterday I saw something about this book, and I was wondering how the collaboration came about. Ask and receive. And now I'm even more intrigued, SJ!

    Outlander by Diane Gabaldon is the classic genre-bender. When it came out booksellers didn't know whether to shelve it in science fiction, fantasy, or romance.

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  13. Hank Phillippi RyanApril 3, 2024 at 9:05 AM

    Oh my goodness, standing ovation! You know I am a such a fan, and this just increases my already massive admiration for you! What a story, and what a saga, and I am so in awe of your impressive research and ability to take all of that information and atmosphere and knowledge and culture, and make it into something fabulous. Absolutely cannot wait to read this. Brilliant brilliant brilliant.

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  14. I promise to read this book asap. It sounds excellent!

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  15. SJ, this sounds incredible. I'm in awe of the research you did to get into the saddle (oops, Texas talk, there). I can't wait to read it. Sounds like something that has legs.

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  16. SJ, I love everything about this! The research alone made the librarian in me swoon. I love an epic collaboration and I do believe that's what we have here. Off to snag a copy!!!

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    1. I am in awe of the research, too. And I love this part of London--where part of my book in progress is set!--so can't wait to add another history layer. Love the old photos!

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  17. S.J., your description of how you came to write, this book has my head spinning! What a brave, challenging, and thoroughly extravagant project. How could the new book not be on my TBR list and sitting on the stack demanding my attention soon? See you at LCC, where I might ask you to sign my copy!

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    1. Aw, now I'm jealous that you'll both be there. So sad I'm not making it this year.

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  18. Here's another rave review, from Kristopher Zygorski at Bolo Books! https://bolobooks.com/2024/04/the-murder-of-mr-ma-the-bolo-books-review/

    I think SJ is doing events in NY with John today but will be checking in.

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    1. I was interested in John's bio and Google says that he grew up in San Diego. He's a hometown kid! I wonder what area and which high school?

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  19. Congrats SJ what an amazing story. What an great deal of research went into your book. Sounds like an exciting read.

    Note for Susan Shea.
    Hmmm name sounds familiar. Oh wait! I am currently reading a book and the author is Susan C. Shea. What a nice surprise to see your name pop up here. I hope Pippa gets out of trouble and Katherine and Pippa resolve the murder of the lady in the museum (Dressed for Death in Burgudy). I just finished the pig head in the car chapter - that would freak me out too!

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    1. I am such a fun of these books--be sure to go on to the Chateau books, which feature the same characters and introduce a new one, Ariel Shepard.

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    2. Thanks Debs I wasn't aware of the Chateau books.

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  20. I can't wait to read THE MURDER OF MR. MA, because combining the classic Judge Dee style mysteries with 1920s London with a touch of Holmes and Watson is pressing ALL my buttons!

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  21. Wow! Just wow! I love historical mysteries, the 1920s, the London setting. Can't wait to read it!

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  22. Can't wait to read it ... it's on my list! Also just downloaded China Trade

    Also ... this Judge Dee ... sounds fascinating - are you recommending the 40s & 50s translations from Chinese or another version?

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  23. After reading today's blog, am even more eager to get me hands on this! Loved SJ's most recent, Mayors of New York.

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  24. It sounds like so much fun - I raced online to my library and they have it! Now on hold for me!

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