JULIA SPENCER-FLEMING: Celia recently sent me an article byMelissa Kirsch of the New York Times. In it, Kirsch talks about the oh-so-modern joys of not showing up for a previous commitment: the sense of dodging an obligation, the delight of just not having to do anything. Apparently, this can go for both parties, as a recent SNL sketch points out - the pleasure of doing nothing for an evening versus the horror of having PLANS.
Of course, modern forms of communication make it easy to sort-of-commit and kind-of-back out. In the ancient days of yore (prior to 1995) one had to phone friends to rope them into a casual get-together, which meant if you, the invitee, wanted to back out, you actually had to pick up the phone and talk to the person you were standing up. This was done by hacking loudly and pretending to be sick, or having your children/dogs/spouse wailing in the background. Either way, you felt guilty.
Now, however, plans might start with a text: Hey, thinking about getting together at the new sushi place next Friday? You in?
Notice even the invite is pretty conditional. The invitee might reply: Sounds good! Let me know the time.
The word “yes” does not appear. However, the invitee adds the date to their phone calendar. When Friday rolls around, over a week later, the invitee is beat, and just wants to collapse on the sofa with a drink and a new episode of Slow Horses. Instead, they’re appalled to get a follow up text: You still on for tonight?
Unlike ye olden times, when a host held the guests feet to the fire with a firm expectation they would show up on time (with a bottle of wine or some flowers) the modern ‘host’ is giving the invitee three clear freeway lanes to make an exit. Which the invitee does: Sorry, not a good time. Catch you later, though.
Reds, how are you about making plans and keeping them? Do you issue formal invites? Are you deeply relieved when you can skip an event relatively guilt-free?
 DEBORAH CROMBIE: Really, boringly, old-school here. If I
commit to something, I will do it unless I am literally on my sickbed, even if
sometimes I would much rather be collapsed on the sofa with a homemade cocktail
and the newest episode of Bake Off! On the other hand, my social calendar is
not all that demanding!
DEBORAH CROMBIE: Really, boringly, old-school here. If I
commit to something, I will do it unless I am literally on my sickbed, even if
sometimes I would much rather be collapsed on the sofa with a homemade cocktail
and the newest episode of Bake Off! On the other hand, my social calendar is
not all that demanding!
HANK PHILLIPPI RYAN: Oh, me, too. I’m there if I say I’m there-if I have to cancel, I hate that.
However, I have to say if the other guy cancels, that’s kinda fine with me. I had an event with a very fancy author some years ago. I was supposed to interview her for something, and for some hideous reason that had nothing to do with me, we had to cancel.
When I called her with an alternate date, she applauded. Yay, she said, we can do this another time, and I get my afternoon back. When I continued to apologize, she stopped me. Hey, she said, how often are you unhappy to get time back?
Got to admit she had a point.
But it’s got to come from them, not from me.
And thinking now–we have friends who ALWAYS cancel. It’s so funny–I kinda count on it. Oh, I say to Jonathan–that dinner will never happen.
LUCY BURDETTE: I’m pretty good at keeping plans too. However, I do consult John first before accepting something. That gives us a chance to say, we’ve really got too much going on here and need some down time. (It’s quite busy in Key West and a person could end up out every night if they weren’t careful…)
 HALLIE EPHRON: I try not to make dates I won’t be able to
keep, but honestly as you get older, it’s hard to know just how you’re going to
feel. I’m a lot more forgiving these days with my friends who over and over
make dates and cancel. They’re doing their best, as am I. I still want to see
them… hopefully another time.
HALLIE EPHRON: I try not to make dates I won’t be able to
keep, but honestly as you get older, it’s hard to know just how you’re going to
feel. I’m a lot more forgiving these days with my friends who over and over
make dates and cancel. They’re doing their best, as am I. I still want to see
them… hopefully another time.
RHYS BOWEN: I hate to let anyone down. I put everything on the calendar instantly and if I say I’m going to be there, I am, and on time. I’m obsessive about being on time, while John has to be dragged out of the house. If I invite someone and they cancel at the last minute I don’t think I’ll be inviting them again. However, I do realize as we get older that doctor appointments get in the way of things we’d rather do.
JENN McKINLAY: Hub and I are in accord that the best plans are canceled plans. Probably, because we’re out 1-2 times per week for his gigs, we’re full up on the social and a weekend off is a glorious thing! That being said, there are friends and family that I don’t even check my calendar for - if they reach out I will meet them any time, any place, any day, anywhere. I am an on time person, never early but rarely late more than a minute, but I am a ghoster. I leave parties without saying good-bye because it takes another hour to say good-bye to everyone and when I want to go, I just go.
JULIA: Okay, dear readers, now it's your turn. Do you go or do you ghost?
Very old-school here . . . make a commitment, keep that commitment. If the other party cancels, it's okay, but I'd need a REALLY good reason to cancel something I'd agreed to . . . .
ReplyDeleteExactly, Joan. Make commitment, keep commitment. Must be dying to cancel. Always on time. If Irwin is not able to go, I go by myself, unless he has something contagious. Sometimes fine if other person cancels but, like Rhys, might not invite them again.
DeleteRoss used to drive me CRAZY because he'd agree to an invite and then at 5pm the evening of, he'd say, "Uh, I don't really feel like going." I used to worry friends would think I was making up having a husband!
DeleteYes, to all these:
ReplyDelete-Keeping commitments
-Enjoying cancelations not done by me
-Slipping away without a good-bye (especially if I don't want to break up the party)
Anon, I will admit to frequently sighing with relief when someone else cancels the plans!
DeleteMy plans have always been vague. Such as, When I rule the world...
ReplyDeleteSome day.
No specific timeline.
Jerry, let us know when it happens, okay? We want to be there!
DeleteIf I make plans to be somewhere I am there come hell or high water. It annoys me when others cancel. I say goodbye and thank you to the host before leaving, but I don’t make the rounds of everyone.
ReplyDeleteBrenda, I feel duty-bound to say thank you and good bye to my host(s), but there are times when I know slipping away quietly would cause less of a fuss!
DeleteIn my family, if you say you are going to show up, you darn well better show up, so I am like Rhys and Hank: I will be there unless the world catches fire, and as close to the right time as possible. Steve is like John, has to be dragged out, with the added cherry on top of knowing when I want to leave but not doing all the leaving stuff, like locking doors, etc., unless I remind him. Because that's a brand new idea, right? LOL
ReplyDeleteYesterday afternoon he had invited some friends, including one particularly challenging one, for dinner, but to arrive hours early so they could work on a project together. I have barely recovered from jetlag and when they were all outside I quietly closed myself into the study for a half hour of rejuvenation. It was the only way I could manage the next four hours of entertaining. They didn't notice I was absent, they were so intent on their jobs, so that was a successful ploy!
Self care, Karen! Glad you got some.
DeleteKaren, next time, try extending it to a whole hour!
DeleteKaren, take care if yourself!
DeleteAs long as I put something on my calendar I show up. I am an extrovert, my husband not. And now that I’m retired I love getting together for lunch with friends I don’t see that often. Still, if something at night gets cancelled or postponed I usually am not upset. Thinking of my (much) younger days and all the social evening activities all.the.time! Oy!
ReplyDeleteAbsolutely, Suzette. Part of the wisdom of age is knowing when to politely decline an invitation even if you DON'T have anything else planned.
DeleteIf I say I'm going to be there, I will be there. But sometimes I do hope the person cancels. I didn't know there was a word for leaving an event without anyone knowing it - I like "ghoster"
ReplyDeleteIt also means to drop a friendship/relationship without contacting the other person again, Dru Ann.
DeleteYes, it also means dropping a friendship/relationship without contacting the other person. I've had to ghost certain people who are bullies or refuse to listen to me when I express concerns about their behavior. Some people can be obtuse and refuse to acknowledge responsibility for their actions. I had to deal with this stalker at Uni. I asked my friends to ignore this stalker who "apologized" to me. The damage was done. This stalker could not be trusted at all!
DeleteI never cancel if I've committed so I'm fine when the other person does.
DeleteI don't ghost. I have canceled plans, but always in advance. I LOVE staying home! As a result, I'm trying to be more careful about committing to events.
ReplyDeleteOn the other hand, health glitches happen, as a couple of you said. Something went wrong with one of my feet this week. I thought it was getting better so didn't go to the doc, and today it's worse. I'm going to give two fellow authors a heads up that I might not be able to make a gig on Wednesday night - I can't even put on a shoe, let alone drive an hour and be authorly social with strangers (plus driving home after dark).
Edith, when one of my friends says, "I can't make it because of (insert weird health thing)" I believe it, because it's a given things like that happen when you get to our age!
DeleteThese days I rarely go out at night for many reasons. I had visiting relatives who decided not to include me on their daytime outing then they invited us to meet for dinner. Luckily it was in the summer with longer daylight. I met them for dinner during the daylight. The moment the sun started to go down, I explained to them that I cannot drive in the dark and left them during the meal.
DeleteEdith,
DeleteAce bandage and ice! Doc will say the same thing unless you think it is broken. Hope you feel better soon,
Edith, take it easy this weekend and have it checked on Monday!
DeleteI live with one of the original stick-in-the-muds, and have to whine a lot if I really want to go out, so usually don’t. He turns into a two-year-old, drags his feet, and goes completely into stunned. Can’t see, can’t hear, can’t understand. Then when it is time to go home, he won’t shut up – 30 mins to say goodbye. (It works like this: you say thank you, good night, and see you, and then LEAVE). No promises for things you will never do, and no long blabber about n-o-t-h-i-n-g.
ReplyDeleteNow as for events that are (usually) hosted by me (we own the old cottage/dining room, and our house which is a part of this edifice has the kitchen and bathroom.) It falls on me to be the host. All come, all drool etc over somebody’s kid, all stall in the food line until the food gets cold (what is with that foolish ‘you go first, no you go first” stuff anyway), the dessert is served, then more and more wine is consumed – it used to be that you brought out the tea and coffee and then everyone took the hint and vamoosed with the above thank you, lovely party, etc. Now it seems it is an all-night drink, and more drink – everyone lives within walking distance - and more hilarity, and I want to scream – go home! Apparently, I was ‘blessed’ with my mother’s attitude that the host stays until the end – with a smile on her face. Meanwhile I think, and maybe I will needlepoint it – stay as long as you like. Just walk away, turn off the lights and shut the door on your way out. All will be fine until morning. The world will not end and I will clean up.
Margo, all this time I thought I was the only once who had had a recalcitrant spouse! Now I discover, it wasn't a Ross thing, it's a HUSBAND thing!
DeleteI do not think you can generalize to that extent. Not true for many including my husband.
DeleteSometimes I think that Covid has changed organized plans for the better, or maybe if it is not covid, than my time in life. Things were suddenly in a time of flux during the pandemic when there was always a question about whether there was a lock-down or if someone was ill, and plans were changed accordingly. We didn’t have a Christmas dinner together until last year – it was great! Now, there is still the sickness or time factor added in – my sister’s cancer, and need not to be near any infectious people, my cousin’s abrupt death, and this Christmas a wish to have all of us gathered together. Plans are being made, but as always subject to change – but let’s hope. Two new factors in this year’s equation – son is coming across the country from BC, and oldest grandson (12) has had surgery for testicular torsion – twice, and is now in hospital with C-Diff. Arggghhhh!
ReplyDeleteYay for faraway sons coming to visit, but so sorry about your nephew, Margo. May he be well and home soon!
DeleteAmen to everything Edith says, Margo.
DeleteSorry about your grandson! I hope he recovers soon!
DeleteI’m pretty good about keeping commitments. In pre-COVID days, when I was still working and my husband the extrovert over-scheduled us, I LOVED it when people cancelled. Since we are splitting time in Nice, we are pretty fully scheduled when we are in SoCal and I want to keep those commitments.
ReplyDeletePat S - I am on a JD case! Happily it is supposed to wrap up on Wednesday.
Julia - I hope you are now far enough removed to get on a jury.
Lisa, I hope so, too! I've always wanted to perform that civic function.
DeleteIn California Attorneys are never excused from jury duty.
DeleteLisa, I hope it wraps up so you can return to Nice as you planned and that you enjoy the experience. And Julia, I hope you get to serve. I don’t understand how some people never have been summoned and yet I get called every 18 months like clockwork. I think since my now 27 year old son was past the age of needing me as a caregiver (school age? I don’t remember the rules), I have been called consistently. — Pat S
DeleteAs soon as I reported deaf needs hearing aids, that was it for me.
DeleteI'm pretty strong about keeping commitments, but like many others who have already commented, I have grown more reserved about making those commitments. My husband and I are both extroverts, and when we were younger we both enjoyed having a possibly over-full calendar. Today, however, we are a little more selective and a lot more appreciative of a peaceful evening in.
ReplyDeleteOur son, though clearly of the generation to cancel plans lightly, is an extreme introvert who makes social commitments warily. Because of that, and perhaps just his nature, he really HATES to have plans cancelled. I think there are two reasons. First, since he doesn't accept lightly, he may have been actually looking forward to this one, well-chosen social event. Second, he will have already expended a lot of emotional energy just gearing himself up to the event, and now that energy has been wasted.
Susan, your son's reaction makes a lot of sense!
DeleteIf I accept an invitation, I’ll be there and on time.
ReplyDeleteHowever, during winter, I warn you that I’ll be present provided the weather is nice because I’m afraid to drive on icy or snowy roads. And I won’t accept at all if I have to drive to darkness.
I will probably be among the first to leave.
Fortunately, plenty things to do during daylight on a clear day.
Those are all wise and understandable restrictions, Danielle!
DeleteI really try to keep my commitments, even the ones I've only made in my head--because I know my pattern of backing out isn't helpful. If I do go, I'm usually glad that I did. I do slip out early sometimes, although I try to find the host and thank them on my way out the door.
ReplyDeleteGillian, when I was newly widowed, I made a dates for tea/brunch/lunch one a week, because even though I didn't feel like going out, I knew it was good for me.
DeleteOn time, if I commit. If it's a casual invite, depends on how I feel as it approaches. Introvert here, perfectly happy to be at home and do whatever takes my fancy.
ReplyDeleteAnon, it feels like the pandemic made introverts out of a lot of us!
DeleteHonestly, it depends on who it is with as to how I feel about canceling. If it is someone who frequently cancels on me, I feel no qualms about calling or emailing to cancel. With others, it is usually with the caveat that it sounds good now, but who knows in two weeks. I feel honesty is better than just canceling at the last minute. I am reminded of Melanie of the We Do Not Care Club - it sounded good when we agreed, but it doesn't sound good any longer so we're not going. -- Victoria
ReplyDeleteVictoria, I'm laughing, because that nails it perfectly - I thought it would be fun two months ago, but not so much tonight!
DeleteIf I make plans, I generally try to keep them. If they get cancelled, I generally hunt the person responsible down and bury them in an unmarked grave in the nearby woods...errr...I mean, I'm happy to find something else to do or just sit on my butt at home and watch TV.
ReplyDeleteBut if I make the commitment, I go unless dying.
By the way, I think everyone here will appreciate this Youtube video from The Holderness Family when it comes to cancelled plans. If you can't chuckle with this video, you need to get that sense of humor checked. - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mfsfzoy_Zj0&list=RDMfsfzoy_Zj0
They are incredibly talented!
DeleteI love it, Jay!
DeleteJay, that was hilarious! Thanks.
DeleteNever heard of The Holderness Family - am addicted!
DeleteThese days menopause wrecks havoc on my plans. As much as I would love to accept invites, I always tell my dear friends "I will TRY to make it." I never know if I will be at 100 percent on the day of the event. I'm trying to do everything I can to stay healthy. I really hate to let anyone down, which is why I do not make promises if I cannot follow through.
ReplyDeleteBefore the pandemic, I would make plans and if I caught a cold, then I would send regrets to my friends and let them know I'm sick. Did anyone here read Mirror Cracked by Agatha Christie or watched the screen version? A fan of the movie star was really sick and still went to an event and passed on the illness to the movie star. If I am sick, then I must cancel. I tell the hosts that I do not want to pass on whatever I have to them.
Thank you for being responsible, Diana! I think most people are better about it post-pandemic, but I've been to get togethers where another guest "just has a sniffy nose" and next week I'm popping Nyquil because I've caught their cold!
DeleteAnother thing that I think has changed over time, for me at least, is that it is easier for me to say no to something. And not feel that I have to explain why. It’s fine just to say oh, no, that date won’t work for us. When I used to feel compelled to say yes to everything.
ReplyDeleteExactly, Hank.
DeleteHank, I find myself saying No more these days because it means Not breaking a promise.
DeleteHank, I feel that's one of the great gifts of getting older, especially for women. No, I won't do that. No, I can't donate. No, I'm not going to be there.
DeleteIf I commit to something I always follow through.
ReplyDeleteIn the past I had a friend with whom I had made plans-at least I thought I did and then found out that she didn’t see it the same way. On several occasions it involved purchasing tickets or making reservations for a specific concert or event which had to be done ahead of time.
Knowing her history, I wound up asking several times so I could buy or reserve whatever needed to be done. I wound up not going some places that I really wanted to do because I didn’t find out in time that she hadn’t planned on going to but didn’t tell me until it was too late to ask someone else or make other arrangements. She had been a good friend but very sensitive at times so I never brought up the subject. We usually got together for things she initiated because those were the only times I could be sure she would follow through.
I would rather have someone say no, I am not interested than leave it up in the air when you have to make arrangements ahead of time and there may be a monetary commitment involved and you are out of pocket or no longer able to get tickets for an event because it is sold out.
This happened to me. I had this friend who flaked out on me. I stopped inviting that friend and invited other friends who are more reliable. Sometimes there was an event, which I really wanted to go to and I went by myself. This unreliable friend was also a very manipulative person who was the type to make plans then cancel at the last minute if a "better offer" came along.
DeleteOh my, this this happened to me once. A friend asked ne to buy expensive concert tickets while she was out of the country. Not the first time . Thrn, on the day, s
DeleteUgh, that's the worst, Anon!
DeleteI think as we get older, we evaluate how good of a friend someone really is if they don’t consider your feelings. Someone who consistently cancels or leaves you “holding the bag”, aka tickets, doesn’t seem like one who values your relationship. Or maybe that’s just me.. — Pat S
DeleteI am an extrovert so enjoy getting together with friends. Now that I have retired, I’m much more likely to meet people for lunch or happy hour than a big night out. I think a lot of that relates to the fact that it’s much easier to get into a nice restaurant for lunch than dinner and the fact you’re not driving at night. I have one friend whose night vision was severely impaired due to cataracts so she preferred daytime events. As much as I love seeing my friends, I love just being at home and start to feel annoyed when we have too many activities in a short period of time. That’s nothing new for me, though. I remember how excited I was when I found out we were going to have a baby. Not just for the obvious reasons, but because we had season tickets to professional baseball games, college football games and at least two different theaters. I wanted to be unscheduled! (Little did I know that I wouldn’t get to see a play for more than a decade!)
ReplyDeleteHaving said all of that, I don’t cancel plans lightly and find that people who consistently do so to me get moved to the “only if we have to” invitation list. — Pat S
My response is not intended to be a sob story; it's just the truth these days. First, I have come to dread plans and rarely have them anymore. It's not entirely on me. Of my two best friends here with whom I separately or together used to have lunch or go to a play, one died four years ago and the other has been diagnosed with dementia and has just moved into a facility to prepare for it getting worse. She does have an apartment, and I have visited and it's a lovely place, but plans are very iffy with her. For about ten years, we have bought season tickets to the Broadway musical plays that come to town at our venue for such events. We bought them this year on a whisper and a prayer, and we've missed the first two. There are two more events we have tickets for, and we'll just have to see. It could be sad, but over the last two years, I've gotten to prefer staying in. There was a time I loved going out or traveling to my hometown to be with friends there, but life events have gotten in the way. And, again, this is not a "woe is me" set of comments. It's just how it is now. We have our beautiful granddaughter's events to go to, which are an hour away but we always do anyway. Things in life change you, and I'm okay with being an introvert. And, I'm most grateful that I've begun to slowly get my reading mojo back. Reading is a plan that gets few cancellations.
ReplyDeleteOh, Kathy, I so identify. My best friend for 49 years had gotten less and less communicative, more distant, and not returning calls or texts. When we were together she would do stuff like leaving really small restaurant tips, or not remembering a place we had been together before. The worst was showing up on the wrong day, or not at all, even for longstanding appointments. Last year our worst fears were realized when she was finally diagnosed with Alzheimers.
DeleteHer husband just died suddenly, while we were in Greece, and I don't think she has yet taken it in.
It's a lonely place to be, cut off from someone as close as a sister.
"Reading is a plan that gets few cancellations" - Absolutely.
DeleteAnd aren't we lucky to have homes we can enjoy holing up in.!
Karen, my friend hasn't driven for over a year, per doctor's orders. To me, that would be a hard activity to give up. Her husband committed suicide when their daughter was three (that's when her daughter and my daughter became great friends), her son died from a heart attack at age 43, her daughter married a real terror and had three children by him (they have been living in a large house chosen by my friend and her daughter since the daughter got rid of the horrible husband), my friend's brother was murdered, and now the dementia. She has worked hard to keep her income in a very comfortable range and should be able to enjoy it some now. She's 77. Oh and her first husband, father of her son, was a real jerk and left them. Her doctors thought it would be easier to move into the assisted living facility now than when her dementia got worse. I wonder just how much your friend will take in about her husband's absence.
DeleteHallie, you are so right about how lucky we are to have comfortable homes to hide away and read from when we want.
DeleteFrom Karen: they took my friend's car from her over a year ago, too, for her own safety. They are quite wealthy, so she has a driver, a fulltime cook, two housekeepers for her massive Victorian, and round-the-clock, carefully selected caregiver/companions. Whenever we do manage to get together it is never alone. I miss her so much already.
DeleteYour friend has been to hell and back, that poor woman.
I heard a comedian say towards beginning of her show that of course she was happy to have audience, but she knew a lot of people were over 40/50 and she said I know that if I had needed to cancel the show or people you were with cancelled most of you would have been glad...not because of me but just people happy not to have do things really
ReplyDeleteFUN topic! As a terminal homebody, I LOVE it when people cancel plans (I also don't mind doing the thing on my own if it's something I really wanted to do...). I also try to not overbook myself these days. While I do value my time with friends, I also understand completely the need for a self-care day and never begrudge someone wanting to reschedule. With my closest friends, we are honest about needing our downtime. I'll also say that as an introvert, I do love to be invited (but might also be the friend who turns things down if I have too many things going on). My bigger issue, which is possibly related, is people arriving EARLY to my house when we are hosting at home. Yikes! My father is the biggest culprit of this. He will literally arrive an hour (or more!) early. Now I tell him the start time at least one hour after I want him to actually arrive! I'm also someone who could care less if someone is running late. I do not take it personally. I appreciate the unexpected "free time" to catch up on my reading. I always carry a book with me for these unexpected opportunities to relax guilt free!
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