DEBORAH CROMBIE: To this I could add "my love affair with long sentences," both of which go against all the things we were taught in writing workshops. Write short, blunt sentences, they said. (See what I did there? A comma!) I am the first to admit that short punchy sentences have their place, and I do use them. (No comma between short and punchy there--we don't need it.) Short sentences move the action along. They express emotion. They add interest to a paragraph or a page of longer sentences, and help keep the reader from getting lost in the prose. But where short really shines is in dialogue, because real people seldom speak in complete sentences.
But pages and pages of short, punchy sentences can become really annoying, and long sentences without commas to clarify them can put the reader to sleep in short order, so I'd like to think I aim for a happy middle ground. (You might guess that I am a diehard proponent of the Oxford comma, and that diagramming sentences was one of the few things that stuck with me from English classes.)
But all of this really is just backup to justify the way my brain works. When I'm writing, I hear the sentences in my head, and they have a certain rhythym. Hence the commas, and if I don't hear that pause, I will leave the comma out. At which point Microsoft Word will usually correct me and I have to choose between the software's grammar police and what I think sounds right.
I'm really curious to learn how my new editor feels about commas! And then, of course, there's the copy editor, but that's a fraught subject for another day. (I do know that technically there should be a comma between and and then in the above sentence, but here I made the judgement call to leave it out.)
Readers, do you think about these things? If so, do you fall on the side of more commas, or less?
And now for my progress report! I am steaming along in the last quarter of Kincaid/James #20--it's all downhill from here, I hope! A few more chapters and it will be done--at least until my editor gets her hands on it.
Here's a little snippet of Duncan paying a visit to one of my favorite places, in real life as well as in the books. We haven't seen the Scotch Malt Whisky Society in a couple of books and I was missing it. (You'll have to wait to find out just why he's meeting with his former boss, Denis Childs.)
Kincaid now felt a bit silly for having insisted on the hideaway
of the whisky society rather than Denis Childs’ favorite pub, which was considerably
nearer Childs’ home in Clerkenwell. But as he pulled open the solid wooden door
tucked away behind the Bleeding Heart Tavern in Hatton Garden, he felt the sense of
security the place always conjured. Quickly, he climbed the open stairs to the first
floor members’ room.
He remembered his surprise on his first visit when he’d found
not the dark fustiness he’d associated with members’ clubs, but a high-ceilinged
wide-windowed room painted in pale gray, with black leather banquettes and soft
furniture covered in jewel tones. Clean-lined photos of whisky distilleries adorned
the walls and the mirror over the fireplace reflected the awe inspiring ranks of
society whiskys displayed behind the bar. Today the fire wasn’t lit and several
of the windows admitted the warm afternoon air. It was still a bit early for the afterwork
drinks crush, for which he was grateful, and Denis had not yet arrived.
At the bar, he asked the bartender for a recommendation, having
learned that trying to pick a dram from the society’s complicated menu was practically
an afternoon’s task.
“We’ve a nice Speyside in the new Outrun,” the bartender answered.
“Twelve-year-old, lots of honey notes. Suits such a warm day.”
“Sounds perfect. I’ll have that and a packet of the vinegar
crisps.” He’d suddenly realized he was starving, having not taken time for lunch,
and it didn’t do to drink neat whisky on an empty stomach.
Claiming his favorite table in the front corner, he slid onto
the banquette so that he was facing the door. There were a few business types, men
and women still in suits, occupying other tables, but no one close, and no one he
recognized.
With a little exhalation of relief, Kincaid raised his glass
to his nose and sniffed. Closing his eyes, he took a very small sip, letting the
syrupy liquid expand in his mouth. Honey, yes, and was that...pineapple? Then came
the burn, with notes of ginger and spice, chocolate and cranberry. He swallowed and felt his shoulders begin to relax.
When he opened his eyes, he saw his friend just entering the room, raising a hand in greeting.
I hope this makes everyone want to sip a good single malt--or the non-alchoholic equivalent!
And, last thing, as every post should have a picture, I took this one this morning. Spring is coming, and the rosa japonica on the back of our deck is the first thing to bloom.
If there's no hint of spring in your neck of the woods, enjoy ours!

I enjoyed reading about Duncan's visit to the Scotch Malt Whiskey Society and must admit I'm terribly curious to know why he's meeting Denis. Thanks for sharing this with us . . . .
ReplyDeleteI like commas, Debs . . . they smooth out sentences so nicely.
Oh, how I love that glimpse of spring! [Could it be because my car got stuck in the snow today?]
Oh, no, Joan! That sounds dreadful. Glad you are okay!
DeleteI'm impressed by people who can taste different things in whiskey, which is all firewater to me. My husband loves single malt. Thanks for showing us the Scotch Malt Whiskey Society. I look forward to learning what Duncan is pursuing.
ReplyDeleteI, too, like commas. See? I always loved E. B. White's description of their use in the New Yorker, where commas fall "with the precision of knives in a circus act, outlining the victim." I even like semi-colons, the comma's stodgy cousin, so you can see I also like long sentences. I appreciate short ones, also, but too many read like stammering to me.
Lovely to see your spring! We have a ways to go: our forsythia will bloom mid-May. Our first robins usually return at the end of March and hop around disconsolately on the thawing mud of the farm's dirt driveway between ice and rotting snowbanks. We haven't seen the dirt since mid-November so even mud will be exciting. But we usually have snowfall through April. (Selden)
My palate is nowhere near as good as Duncan's. I'm relying on the SMWS tasting notes!
DeleteWe might still have a real cold snap here. I always worry about the peach crop, so fingers crossed.
I love the E.B. White quote--that is so perfect! I'll leave the semi-colons to you, however.
I am a comma fan, particularly the Oxford comma. I also enjoy a good semi-colon. I remember a college professor who had us focus on certain punctuation for each essay we wrote. I enjoyed that. Listening for the pauses in sentences is a big help with knowing where commas go. Seventh grade English when we diagrammed sentences was also a favorite of mine.
ReplyDeleteI’ll pass on the whisky, although I enjoyed reading your passage describing the one Kincaid imbibes in. That burn is what turns me off, plus I don’t drink alcohol due to certain medications I take.
Honestly, I'd just as soon smell it as drink it. I have couple of bottles of SMWS whisky and when I was writing that scene I had to go give them a good sniff. Interestingly, when I was growing up, my parents had a Scotch and soda phase and I thought the Scotch smelled like crushed ants. Ugh. I couldn't stand it. But that was Cutty Sark or something similar, a cheap blended whisky, and there is a world of difference between that and a good single malt--or even better, a single cask.
DeleteDebs, I like the way you use shorter and longer sentences. Like you, I use commas with a voice in my head, even in my comments. I also appreciate the separation of paragraphs like in your snippet. It seems more and more difficult for me to read long pages without paragraphs in certain books of other authors.
ReplyDeleteI’m glad to read about Duncan in this excerpt and curious to learn what’s coming for him as the story goes. Looking forward to reconnect with your fabulous characters.
And thanks for this picture of spring. Ours will be much later but at least, the days are longer and longer.
Thank you, Danielle! I can tell you that whatever Duncan is up to, Gemma is probably not going to like it:-)
DeleteMorning all ~ it’s only 5:30 am. Last spoonful of coffee just put in the coffee pot. One eye fully open. Don’t care much for oxford comma unless it sounds right for a particular created sentence. I adore commas. They add breathing room to a sentence, a pause to indicate something just so. And speaking of snow, none here, which is why I moved to the desert. Cold is no longer a fun escape. But 90 in March? Oh boy. Stay safe everyone. Stay home and read a book. Make delightful meals. Smile, laugh and carry on.
ReplyDeleteThat is perfect advice, Paula!
DeleteLovely scene, Debs, and I'm with you on commas. I let the rhythm of the sentences in my head guide me as well, though sometimes still notice myself observing what I think of as the "nuns' rules," the grammatical edicts of the sisters who were responsible for my early education. Some of what they drilled remain good and useful rules. Some are, I've decided, (note commas) rules for the sake of rules.
ReplyDeleteThanks for the cheery morning photo of the rosa japonica. Nothing is blooming here in Maine, except ever larger snowbanks, so that is much appreciated!
Thanks, Brenda! It's hard for me to imagine living with months of snow, southern wimp that I am. We had snow on the ground for a week in January and I couldn't wait for it to melt!
DeleteOh, Debs, your talk of commas reminded me of something that now seems positively hilarious. In the late 1980's, I was the local section president of a national women's organization. The Greater Hartford Section was all volunteers. At the time, we had a decent membership and one of our board members was responsible for putting out a journal every month or so. The president always contributed an article about what the organization was doing locally and nationally, too. I use commas like you do, reading out loud and listening for the pauses. I'd put them in. The editor would remove them. I'd see the finished journal and just shrug. It wasn't the hill I was prepared to die on!
ReplyDeleteI love the snippet and am so glad that you put this meeting at the Scotch Whiskey Club. I like Scotch very much and so does Irwin. It is an acquired taste, for sure.
Ha, Judy! I might have died on that hill. How frustrating.
DeleteYou and Irwin should check out the SMWS. You would get a kick out of at least reading the Outrun (new bottlings) notes every month. I was in the London club once when there was a tasting panel working and it was fascinating to listen to them.
I do a lot of dictating these days--both emails and book chapters, so I've gotten very used to saying "comma" or "period" etc out loud. I laugh when I'm leaving a phone message and forget this isn't dictation.
ReplyDeleteDebs, we are so thrilled to hear you're hurtling to the end!!!!
Lucy, I do the same thing with phone message dictation!
DeleteI haven't really done much dictating, but it makes sense that it would make you very aware of your punctuation.
DeleteAnd thank you, Lucy. Let me make a note of "hurtling" so that I use it as inspiration!
Dictating correspondence for a customer service job in 1970s made me aware of how many commas I used. The word processing folks nicknamed me “the comma queen”. I use fewer now, but … long live the Oxford comma! Looking forward to Duncan, whiskey, and Gemma, Deborah. Elisabeth
DeleteOh Debs, you made my day with the Kincaid/James progress news! Hooray! Your description of the Speyside whiskey makes me want some now. My whiskey tasting last May at the 100 Princes Street Hotel in Edinburgh was one of the most delicious hours in my life.
ReplyDeleteI learned to diagram sentences in fifth grade English. I remember it as being fun, and one of my favourite things to do. This is also a great post about punctuation. As a reader punctuation is very important, it helps us understand.
We just came back from a lovely week in Tortola, BVI to the aftermath of this week’s blizzard in New England. The days are longer and, right now, full of sunlight. It will be awhile before the green emerges from the 2 feet of snow in the ground.
I envy you that whisky tasting, Suzette! Did you have a favorite?
DeleteI look forward to finding out what Duncan is up and why the whiskey bar?
ReplyDeleteAs far as commas I tend to put them where I pause when speaking. The Oxford comma is something that I sometimes use and sometimes don't. I don't usually put a comma before and if I am listing things, for example, apples, oranges, strawberries and bananas. The reason is because and acts as a comma.
Yes, I'd call that an either/or case.
DeleteYou can add me to the list of comma lovers. In my opinion, they make writing more clear and easy to understand. Don't change your habits now, Debs -- your readers love your writing just as it is. I really enjoyed this snippet.
ReplyDeleteI have a question unrelated to this post, though. I commented yesterday, leaving note about a book I had enjoyed. I saw it on the site afterward. But today, my comment is gone. Should I just assume this is one of the vagaries of Blogger? If it was removed for a reason, may I assume someone would have let me know so I could avoid that offense in the future?
We all love a mystery Susan. I am curious as to why it was deleted as well! Maybe leave another note about the book now and see if it is deleted. Then you'll know for sure something weird is happening!
DeleteHi Susan, maybe repost your book comment again today and see if it is deleted.
DeleteSusan, disappearing comments is a quirk of Blogger, a very annoying quirk. One time on "what we're reading day," my comment completely disappeared and Lucy couldn't even find it in Bloggers "trash!" It seemed so arbitrary to have that post disappear. I was disappointed because I had written a little bit about each book and it had taken me some time to do that.
DeleteAlso, I know that Hank removed a few comments last week when commenters gave away plot twists the day Jenn posted about who-done-it plot twists.
I am so sorry about the disappearing posts, Susan, and Judy! Blogger can be so arbitrary, and so annoying. But we are stuck with it because of our archive of posts.
DeleteI love the snippet...can just taste the smooth whisky (chased in my case by Yorkshire Gold tea at 5:23 am),
ReplyDeleteI am in favor of complete sentences and commas! Semi-colons can be very useful as well. I'm much more bothered by authors who write in short fragments. I know we think that way, but it seems wrong in a novel (call me old-fashioned).
Yes, I agree with you, Gillian. I want the writing to flow. And it's past time to make tea here, loose English breakfast in my case.
DeleteI too, love the comma, and am a fan of the semi-colon. There are sentences that need to go on but are getting too long, and are really not suitable to be a sentence of their own, Enter the semi-colon. The subject matter is close enough to the first part of the sentence to mean it needs to be there. I also really dislike beginning a sentence with ‘and’ or ‘but’ (you would get your knuckles rapped for doing that), so once again, use the semi-colon.
ReplyDeleteNow, as for spring – I love your dandelions! After blizzard, and yet more blizzards, the weather person has provided 3 days of sunshine – the bright, just makes you happy kind. The temperature is below freezing at night, but up to 5 or 6C (42F) in the day, and even more if you are in a sunbeam – just ask any cat! Speaking of cats – the two new ones have been here for 2 weeks, and are now being let outside – if for no other reason than I just want to leave the doors open. If you don’t know what I mean, google Garrison Keillor, “the In and Out Cat Song”. The cats are acclimatized enough to come back in after a run-about, and there are enough snowbanks to corral them from going walk-about. All in all, good. Now I just want to garden – not sort boxes.
Two new cats, Margo? Did we know about them?
DeleteMaybe. I inherited them from my sister. Actually I promised to look after them (not in the way that they thought they should be entitled - they got over it) and for that she should gift me the golf cart. Still waiting on the will to see about the golf cart - my brother wants it as well, but he didn't want the cats. He lives too far away to get it there, says I....I can't picture him driving 500km in a golf cart - though it would be funny. Oh, their names are WW and Naomi after my great grandparents which we find disrespectful, so we call them the boy-cat and the girl-cat. They come to the can-opener, anyway.
DeleteInteresting about the golf cart. If your brother is 500km (300+ miles) away he would probably have to drive on the freeway, which golf carts aren't allowed to do, at least in our county on state or local freeways.
DeleteTrailers carry golf carts, just saying. No need to drive them. But I hope you end up with your sister's, Margo.
DeleteWould you use the golf cart just to get around your property, Margo? Fingers crossed!
DeleteNo thanks to Karen :) for telling me about trailers. George is a city person, probably would need Seldon to park the trailer!
DeleteYes, the golf cart would be just for getting from here to there. Bad legs, old people, cats, dogs, - all love the golf cart around here. However, with the upcoming sale of her house, we would no longer need to go 'west'. On the other hand, the hoped for buyer is a good friend, and I can see enjoying popsicles on the deck would be a thing - and need the golf cart!
The cats have been out all day - they should sleep tonight!
Does anyone remember the delightful Ralph Cosham, who read the first Louise Penny books? He always said that he read the books as if it was the listener who was reading it, which to me meant it was a first go though, and not read and then said. That implies to me, that Penny wrote her books with punctuation that made the sentences not only make sense, but flow gently. As an audio listener, I can hear the difference in timbre when the reader has to re-do a sentence or a paragraph, or some part that apparently did not work the first time through. Was this because of a punctuation issue?
ReplyDeleteI have read all of Louise's books but I have never listened to them. I had heard, though, that Ralph Cosham was wonderful and it was a great loss when he died.
DeleteI view him as the best reader that I have listened to, and I recommend that you do yourself a favour and listen to two or three of the books. You need that many (I think) to get into the rhythm of a voice. A great loss. He hugs you like a blanket.
DeleteI will do, Margo! Maybe I'll go back to the beginning of the series. It's been a long time since I've read those. My vote for the most chocolate-y, comforting voice goes to Kobna Holdbrook-Smith, who reads Ben Aaronovitch's Rivers of London books. I know Kobna reads lots of other things, too, but he is Peter Grant to me.
DeleteThanks for making my day with that excerpt! I'm so happy the book is almost done. OK, I love commas and colons, and occasionally I will use a semicolon. For me, the Oxford comma is obligatory. Thanks for the pic of the flowering plant. I see pictures of flowers every day in my FB feed - many of them from NT locations in England. I'm jealous of anyone who has flowering bulbs, etc. We're leaving on Sunday on a 12-day trip. I hope we'll still be able to admire our daffodils when we return, though they will probably be rather tired.
ReplyDeleteBeth, I am so jealous. My agent will be in London next week as well, for the London Book Fair, and I asked if she could put me in her suitcase!
DeleteI am actually not fond of colons and semi-colons in fiction--although I am perhaps overly fond of the M dash, as illustrated:-)
Beth Glixon
DeleteLonger sentences can be restful to me as a reader--I have to slow down and absorb the information. Too many short sentences all at once are tiring. Commas help organize and simplify the flow of language for me. Like you, Deborah, and others here, I listen for the pauses both when I write and when I'm reading.
ReplyDeleteAnd thank you for this snippet. What a treat to spend a few minutes with Duncan. You've created such great characters--always a pleasure to return to their lives.
I fear Duncan doesn't really get equal time in this book, as it's Gemma's new job and Gemma's case, but he does manage to get an oar in!
DeleteDeborah, my punctuation stuff relates to academic writing. I wouldn't dare use a colon, or semicolon in fiction. Isn't it odd how different the styles of writing are? If an academic paper doesn't have a colon with the second part of the title, people think you're deficient, at least they used to. Our trip is to Italy, Florence for an academic conference, then 5 days in Rome. I'm trying to gear myself up for listening to academic papers in Italian. It's hard enough to listen to them in English. In June we'll be in England and Scotland for three weeks. What I'm most sorry about that I never get to see in England is the bluebells, and of course the snowdrops. We did see some amazing gardens last summer, and hope to do the same this time. I don't drink, but my husband is really into single malts. I'm sure he would love to be a member of said society.
DeleteIf you click on the Scotch Malt Whisky Society link just above the snippet, and choose the UK option, there are photos of the Greville Street meeting room, so you can get an idea what it's like. Here it is again: https://smws.com/venues/19-greville-street-london
ReplyDeleteI clicked on the link earlier - so cool!
DeleteI'm fond of whiskey, so I wish I were there sipping with Duncan! Here in San Francisco, all kinds of things are blooming. Yesterday I think I saw a clivia in the wild, with its gorgeous apricot-colored blooms about to open (mine at home in a big pot is also blooming).
ReplyDeleteOh - I'm with you on the commas. Some, but not too many.
DeleteI live sixty miles south of where you are in SF. All the trees are in full bloom and the wildflowers in the hills are a mass bloom this year. My roses are in full growth cycle and still blooming. Geraniums bloom twelve months of the year here. California poppies are popping up everywhere. Pretty time of year, with green hills too. Temps here are twenty degrees warmer than SF, low eighties recently.
DeleteMy husband is a lawyer who reviews other lawyers briefs before they are submitted to the US Court of Appeals. He has excellent editing skills and when I ask for editing help - he is "astonished" over my over abundance of commas!! But, I, like, commas! However, it is helpful to have someone make my writing much better before I send it off, just in case the reader isn't a comma fan.
ReplyDeleteBTW, my hub likes the Oxford comma because otherwise it can cause confusion. The old, "I love my parents, god and Oprah Winfrey" joke - without the Oxford comma after god it could be interpreted as I love my parents who are god & Oprah Winfrey. Not three separate loves.
DeleteI like that one!
DeleteLove the Oxford comma, and your series. I have enjoyed seeing how Duncan and Gemma's lives have evolved over the years. Like old friends I can't wait to visit again. Looking forward to #20.
ReplyDeleteThank you, Michelle!
DeleteOne hundred percent on your team! It feels very natural to me to write longest sentences, I think that’s how my brain works naturally.
ReplyDeleteI just have to be careful that all my characters don’t talk that way. So, over the years, I have come to use them carefully. Usually I change the rhythm a bit in my edits, but on my first draft, I just let those commas rip!
That's a really good point, Hank. Not all of our characters are going to speak correctly, especially now that the misuse of personal pronouns seems to be endemic. "Him and me went to the shop." Arrghhh. Makes me want to pull my hair out.
DeleteI've started to notice that some younger generation don't use !, ?, or periods in their texts. For example, are you going to the fair
ReplyDeleteI am occasionally guilty myself, but most of the time I do put in punctuation.
DeleteJust a reminder of the best punctuation book: "Eats, Shoots & Leaves" by Lynn Truss. And one other comment: I've given up on quite a few books that begin with several paragraphs of short sentences only. It feels as if it was written for elementary school age level. Annette
ReplyDeleteI LOVE Eats, Shoots & Leaves and thought about mentioning it! It is the best!
DeleteHi Deborah,
ReplyDeleteSo happy to read that book 20 is approaching the finish line. I love commas. There are times I have to go back and reread a section because the comma is not there to break something up, causing the pause needed for the sentence to flow smoothly.
Yes! Commas used correctly should make reading effortless. There is nothing more annoying than having to read a sentence two or three times in order to figure out what's being said.
DeleteHear, hear, for the Oxford--and other--commas! Short sentences are appropriate for many places, but not for descriptive passages, or for building a world. Longer, more complicated sentences are much more appealing to me, most of the time. They imply a completely different atmosphere, or mood, for a piece, more cerebral, maybe. Using them makes the reader work a little harder to follow the twists, turns, and asides of the statement, and that is something I often look for in a book. It engages my mind more. Fiction using snappier descriptions also has a place, but it creates a slightly different mood. Am I explaining myself well here, or just irritating people? LOL
ReplyDeleteTrying to think of an author who uses both methods for different series, and I can't, off the top of my head, although I know there are some.
When I was learning to write better 40 years ago, an instructor made the same point you did, Debs: breaking up sentence lengths inside paragraphs make for a more pleasant reading experience. Less staccato, and/or predicable. And much more interesting.
You are explaining it perfectly, Karen. When I'm editing my pages I will often break sentences up in order to get that variation.
DeleteWonderful news about book #20, Debs, and a tantalizing excerpt. I am not only a fan of commas, but of semi-colons, hyphens, and dashes, including hyphens in words like door-knob, which should be doorknob! Oh dear. I'm getting better at leaving them out. As far as I know, however, I have never put a comma between subject and verb, which is one of my pet peeves as a reader. That and "between him and I." But that has nothing to do with punctuation---sorry! Thanks for the photo of a Texas spring; we're still at the snowdrops-and-crocuses stage.
ReplyDeleteThe daffs are still blooming here, Kim, but the tulips are beginning and the fruit trees will be in bloom by next week. Interestingly, our bloom schedule here in north Texas is very close to southern England, even though we're so much further south, because the UK is warmed by the jet stream. I'm seeing photos of the tulip trees blooming in London and they are here as well.
DeleteYou've hit on one of my biggest bugbears, the compound word. I try so hard to get them right--hyphen or no hyphen, space or no space--but whichever way I choose the copy editor will disagree. Grr.
Kim, I often hear people say her and she incorrectly.
DeleteWonderful excerpt. I'm in a track stance!
ReplyDeleteI can't tell you what a weight you have lifted from my shoulders. When I write, I hear the words, but I've never wanted to confess it - ranks right up there with talking to my characters, which I also do.
I do that, too, Kait, so am glad to know I'm not alone, on both counts! I do not, however, actually read my writing aloud--no British accent--but I often imagine how it will sound when Gerard, my narrator, reads it.
DeleteI need a crash course on commas (I missed that diagramming lesson when I moved between two grade schools so no comma confidence here!). The editor on my last book went comma crazy and I had a terrible time undoing that mess. I'll start with the Oxford comma since so many of your use that. OR I'll just read Debs' book which looks like a lot more fun.
DeleteLovely description of the club, Debs. I'd like to be there now, sipping a nice single malt. I, too, love a well placed comma and write to the rhythm of the story. Your work makes perfect sense to me.
ReplyDeleteAs I used to tell my co-workers in the Army JAGC - I'd take a bullet for the Oxford comma! :)
ReplyDeleteLOL! I love it!
DeleteWhat a lovely description, Debs. Looking forward to it - although I'm not much of a whiskey drinker, so I'll settle for tea. No floral signs of spring here yet, but I do hear lots of birds chirping away.
ReplyDeleteI have two English degrees. I know how to use a comma. Or I thought I did. But one editor takes them out where I think they should be in - then the next editor puts them back. I figure a general reader has no idea so I go with whatever the last editor said. But like you, I do tend to put them where my brain inserts a pause - although that is not always grammatically correct, which means I take a lot of them out on revision.
I am not an author/writer. I do, however, write to communicate such as in this post.
ReplyDeleteWhen I do, I am aware of the correct use of commas and grammar. I then think that with the casual use of grammar and the sometimes obscure usage of abbreviations in email communication, does anyone really care and notice whether the punctuation is correct.
Obviously, people here do.
One error I see made frequently is its the possessive pronoun and it’s the contraction for it is. I think if you say some of words out loud the answer becomes more obvious.
I remember being taught to diagram sentences. Initially I was confused about how to figure out the whole process. Once I had a better sense of determining what went where, I really enjoyed it.
Correct grammar was really emphasized in my English classes in school. Is that still done?
Do teachers feel that with programs such as autocorrect it is no longer necessary to teach it?
I am very conscious of and annoyed with grammatical errors that appear in a book. Do they occur because no one notices them or because whoever is responsible for checking doesn’t know the difference.
I live in the northeast blizzard zone so it will still be quite a while before any sign of spring occurs. There are still snowbanks about two feet high on my street and other parts of the state are still trying to clear streets and restore electricity.
The only indications of spring are the later sunset and the time change next weekend.
Love your description! And yes, I write all manner of sentences: short, abrupt, no separate clauses, to the long and meandering. It depends. Temps pushing 60 today, with rain and snow predicted every day after tomorrow. We're heading backwards into spring, one snow flurry at a time.
ReplyDeleteThe daffodils out front have pushed up from the earth. We'll have blooms before long! Oxford comma, yes. I used to enjoy diagramming sentences in English class. I wonder if anyone does that anymore.
ReplyDeleteThe most important aspect is clarity, and proper punctuation helps with that, especially with rich, complex, lush, longer sentences. Variety is the spice of writing and reading, and as a reader, I enjoy it. As a former teacher, I admire writers who work to polish their books. <3
ReplyDelete-- Storyteller Mary