HANK PHILLIPPI RYAN: I’m not sure what my reaction is to this. It’s either: duh, I could’ve told you that very easily.
Or: wow, see, I knew it!
See what you think.
I read an article in The Washington Post about “hasslers”. That’s how the article terms people who are hassling you. And the jist of it was basically, that there is medical research that shows the difficult people in your life might make you age faster.
That while positive relationships, this article says, make you happier and healthier, hasslers have the opposite effect. So it says this article. Because they increase chronic stress.
According to this article, negative relationships actually make your cells age more quickly.
Here’s a quote from the piece: “Researchers found that for every additional hassler, participants regularly interacted, with their pace of aging increased by 1.5%. In other words instead of aging one biological year per calendar year, a person with at least one extra hassler would age around 1.015 years during the same time. It gets worse, the more hasslers you have.”
It also says (I’m shocked! shocked!) that women typically have more hasslers than men. Not even going to go there. And, that women tend to be disproportionately affected both positively and negatively.
See what I mean? I can’t decide whether this is obvious or groundbreaking.
Plus now I am even more annoyed with the one-time co-worker who I asked whether she’d like me to tell her what happened in a certain meeting.
Her reply was “I already know what happened in the meeting but I’m happy to hear your version of it if you’d like to tell me.”
Whoa.
Or another co-worker who was producing a story I was investigating, and I called her to say I was at the scene of the crime, but that there was no way to get ot he actual place without going on private property.
She told me, "Well, I’m looking at Google earth on my computer, and it looks to me like there’s a way in. Just go ahead, and then turn left.”
I said: "You are in your office looking at a computer, and I am in the real place! I’m right here. And there’s no way in. I can see how it might once have been, but there’s no left turn anymore, it’s been changed.”
She said: "It shows it on the map."
And I said: "I am actually HERE."
And she said "Well, I guess you aren't really interested in this story."
So. AH. I am not going to do the math about this, but she lost me some time.
I’m trying to figure out how to ask you about this without having you throw your theoretical father-in-law or second cousin or boss under the bus. So I’ll just ask you this. Do you think this medical finding is shocking? Or obvious?
(And if you want to tell us the best hassly line you’ve ever heard from anyone, we’ll commiserate…)
See what you think.
I read an article in The Washington Post about “hasslers”. That’s how the article terms people who are hassling you. And the jist of it was basically, that there is medical research that shows the difficult people in your life might make you age faster.
That while positive relationships, this article says, make you happier and healthier, hasslers have the opposite effect. So it says this article. Because they increase chronic stress.
According to this article, negative relationships actually make your cells age more quickly.
Here’s a quote from the piece: “Researchers found that for every additional hassler, participants regularly interacted, with their pace of aging increased by 1.5%. In other words instead of aging one biological year per calendar year, a person with at least one extra hassler would age around 1.015 years during the same time. It gets worse, the more hasslers you have.”
It also says (I’m shocked! shocked!) that women typically have more hasslers than men. Not even going to go there. And, that women tend to be disproportionately affected both positively and negatively.
See what I mean? I can’t decide whether this is obvious or groundbreaking.
Plus now I am even more annoyed with the one-time co-worker who I asked whether she’d like me to tell her what happened in a certain meeting.
Her reply was “I already know what happened in the meeting but I’m happy to hear your version of it if you’d like to tell me.”
Whoa.
Or another co-worker who was producing a story I was investigating, and I called her to say I was at the scene of the crime, but that there was no way to get ot he actual place without going on private property.
She told me, "Well, I’m looking at Google earth on my computer, and it looks to me like there’s a way in. Just go ahead, and then turn left.”
I said: "You are in your office looking at a computer, and I am in the real place! I’m right here. And there’s no way in. I can see how it might once have been, but there’s no left turn anymore, it’s been changed.”
She said: "It shows it on the map."
And I said: "I am actually HERE."
And she said "Well, I guess you aren't really interested in this story."
So. AH. I am not going to do the math about this, but she lost me some time.
I’m trying to figure out how to ask you about this without having you throw your theoretical father-in-law or second cousin or boss under the bus. So I’ll just ask you this. Do you think this medical finding is shocking? Or obvious?
(And if you want to tell us the best hassly line you’ve ever heard from anyone, we’ll commiserate…)
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I have absolutely no doubt regarding the truth of this . . . I'm certain the article is telling us exactly what the medical researchers discovered. And I'm not at all surprised that hasslers can shorten our lives . . . they've certainly over-developed their meanness voices.
ReplyDeleteBest hassle-y line: How would you know? You can't see anything unless it's shoved in your face. [Now while it is true that I don't have wonderful eyesight, this statement is definitely a bit of an exaggeration.]
Oh that’s downright mean. Grrrrr. There’s not even a comeback for that, except a laughing goodbye.
DeleteOf course it's true. I might have described it as being around negative energy, but it's the same effect.
ReplyDeleteI had a co-worker whose every response started with, "Well, actually..." and then she'd proceed to tell me how I was wrong. And someone I know quite well says, "Are you sure? Because I've never heard that," as if his personal experience was the only way to know something. Grr.
But it DOES help to recognize it, right? Then you can try to laugh…
DeleteI'm sure that hasslers do eat up your time and make you age faster, too.
ReplyDeleteI have wiped their lines from my brain and I refuse to use any of my remaining gray cells to try to recall a single word.
Hank, those co-workers were poison. I hope you could keep your distance from #1 (snark) and didn't have too many assignments working with #2 (stupid).
Very wise! And it was hard to avoid, but it is in the rear view now…
DeleteThe best hassle line I know is “all you have to do is” which usually comes from someone who is trying to diminish the amount of work needed in order to foist a task off on someone else, and to make them seem like a whiner for not wanting to do it.
ReplyDeleteOhhhhh exactly! Good one!
DeleteI'm not surprised. I've worked in toxic environments where I can almost feel my cells aging faster from the stress. I've found that when a hassler is targeting me during online meetings, it helps to take notes in a novelty notebook I found on instagram with "People I want to punch in the face" emblazoned across the front of it. Not that I would ever do that, but it does make me smile while I'm jotting a hassler's notes in that notebook :) I also bought a "My list of dead bodies buried in the woods" notebook to gather emails for my newsletter at in-person events. A very well-spent $30 for the pair!
ReplyDeleteLOVE the notebook idea! Perfect!
DeleteLOVE the notebooks!
DeleteThus, through systematic hassling, I can reduce my aging by 1.5% per year per person hassled. I'm going to live forever! Yay, me!
ReplyDeleteHa ha! Xxxx
DeleteLOL, Jerry!
Delete"We have standards in this neighborhood. I'm not going to tolerate your weeds!"
ReplyDeleteMy reply: report me to the village.
They did, and nothing came of it.
"Your dog is barking. Do something."
My reply: Every dog barks, even yours.
SO frustrating!
DeleteAs you are no doubt aware, my sister liked to dominate. No matter what I said, I would be told loudly, and often publicly that I was wrong. Interesting that she should know, as often she was not there, but details, details. It always gave her great pleasure or so it seemed to answer a question such as who is so and so, with some dirt on them. “Oh, she is the person in the brown house on that street, who was raped regularly by her husband”. I did not need to know that because a) it should not be public, and b) have you never heard of confidentiality, and c) I just needed to know about the brown house. Now it colours my view – needlessly.
ReplyDeleteThis morning while listening to the fine weekend radio show that is local, for some reason it popped into my head that perhaps in family events she was living vicariously through us (she never married and always tried to stick her oar in everyone else’s affairs). The radio show asks all the time for ‘stories’ and then either you or they attach them to a song. I have made many contributions that range from pathos to hilarious. The grandkids once picked a birthday song for my father called “I am Cow, Hear me Moo” (the radio bleeped a few words!!!). Anyway, she often would say to Jack and I to tell the story about moving to Cape Breton, or about our wedding (horrible music thanks to my mother, and involved a buoy attached to his ankle). Now, no doubt, even if was she the center of attention but currently unavailable, it might include a story of her dying in middle of a blizzard – equally funny in spite of the tragedy.
So, I am aware that I am actually looking forward to (as soon as I finish cleaning up her life), getting our lives back to ourselves. No doubt I will still hear her saying “%^$$&^-off Margo – you are wrong, but I will be able to own my memories my way.
So much to unpack there! Older sister?
DeleteNope, I am the oldest in the family...
DeleteOh, Margo. I feel bad for you, but even worse for your sister, who must have been a very unhappy person.
DeleteLove Michelle's line "My list of dead bodies buried in the woods". I get what Edith meant by "negative energy". Life is too short to waste with hasslers. I chose to ignore these hasslers.
ReplyDeleteI'm trying to recall what hasslers would tell me. I remember one example. I was queuing at a place where everyone was Deaf. This man, whom I had never seen before, was standing too close behind me and almost stepped into my heels. I asked him to back off. He told me that I needed therapy. Yikes! That same man later became the Superintendent of a Deaf school. Many Deaf employees, students and parents complained about his methods at the school and he was forced to resign. I was gleeful at the news because I had proof that I was NOT the problem. Yes, this story hit the local newspapers.
That’s really outrageous. Whoa. And it is much fun to be vindicated…
DeleteFamily difficulties are the hardest to walk away from. And in some cases no matter how far away they are they still present stress.
ReplyDeleteSo true!
DeleteSo true Anon! Geographical distance does help though... still working on the mental distance!
DeleteReminded of when a friend was graduating with a Doctorate in her 40s. Her elderly parents were still spry and able to travel. Her elderly mother had always criticized her all her life. She made cutting remarks about her son-in-law's sturdy vintage woody vehicle while he was driving. She claimed that they could have driven into town with their Cadillac instead of riding in this "ugly car". Keep in mind that we were in a city where the rate of car thefts was very high. My friend remarked that the car thieves are more than welcome to steal the vintage woody car and laughed about the cutting remark. Her mother shut up because she finally understood that if they drove in their fancy Cadillac, then the car thieves would steal it!
Delete"One-time co-worker"... now there's a story!
ReplyDeleteAnd Hank, did you find a way in? I'm thinking you may have trekked on foot - but hopefully not too far. Or, turned down the one way street - "Well officer, you see..."
It was an apartment complex, with a gated entry with a guard. And no other access. It didn’t matter, really, because the minute we set foot on that property it would’ve been private property. And we can’t do that. Grrr
DeleteGood Morning: It depends. Who was the project Manager? How many women, how many men signed off on the study? Who funded it? and best of all, what was the hypothesis? the bias? and was this done for chaotic good, or for funding so they could buy lab equipment?
ReplyDeletePeople have to prove they exist, don’t they? So much red tape!
DeleteI am not going to do the math to see how much 5 years of that one-time co- worker aged me, but I know without a doubt she and the stress she caused me were detrimental to my health. And there were others in addition to her. No wonder there are days when I feel much older than I am!
ReplyDeleteI hear you, dear friend!
DeleteFirst ex was a bully and abuser. When I divorced him, I was told I looked ten years younger. Last job was filled with pressure, including some self-inflicted due to my perfectionist tendencies. My body finally got my attention and I took early retirement years before my "planned" ideal time. Was invited to a colleague's going away party six months later and told I looked ten years younger. So, yes, I would say stress, pressure, bullying, etc. can subtract years from your life. At the same time, if you make wise, healthy choices and extract yourself from those situations, you can regain those years. To this day, despite multiple chronic health issues and diseases, living in my car for 1 1/2 years and renting a room in less than ideal circumstances, my docs still say I look ten years younger than 71 years. Attitude and frame of mind really does matter. -- Victoria
ReplyDeleteYou are such an inspiration!
DeleteGosh, the list of former co-workers is fairly lengthy. As a supervisor, I so wished we could make a handful of the 100- plus employees disappear (into good lives, just away from the 9-1-1 center). It would have made the workplace so much better. We got lucky with one. She was called in to an investigatory interview and got so mad about being questioned that she stormed out, saying she quit. The managers wisely wrote her a letter saying they accepted her resignation. She tried for years to get her job back.
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately, the most difficult person in my life right now is my dear offspring. I don't really understand the autistic brain, but I know the stress I feel when he's grouchy or melting down. We went to the Blazer game last night and had a great time, but getting out the door was iffy. Here's hoping the rest of the visit goes well.
I stand with you.
DeleteYou are such a good person!
DeleteAutism is not an excuse for bad behavior. He is a college professor and excels there, he should be able to handle his emotions.
DeletePerhaps clear boundaries that behavior is no longer acceptable with you.
If he cannot control the temper, he will not last in the university pressure cooker. Some therapy may help.
Hi all ~ love this read! So, yes, retirement made me feel younger. And then I learned ‘No’ is a perfectly acceptable word. Many people present me with opportunities that are fun and I do them. but some are just well, um, for somebody else and I say no. The person suggesting something in the no category seems to always say something along the lines of, ‘of course you can. You’re retired. Stop wasting it.’ ‘hello! It’s my retirement and my decision and I’d rather spend it filled with something other than your opinion.’ I’ve left a few old sorta friends behind and gained new ones that understand what retirement and no means. A true friend will let the suggestion go without the snark.
ReplyDeleteYes, absolutely. May we all live snark free.
Delete"You can get written up for refusing service to students and/or people who seek assistance. This also applies to not being friendly and/or serving them with a smile. Consider this your final warning."
ReplyDeleteSupervisor to me on my afraid of serving my stalker.
He would show up everyday, and sit in front of the reception desk (I was always visible even when I was not at the front desk).
He would sit there and watch me for eight hours everyday.
Yeah.
Bonus points that my supervisor is a woman.
Double bonus points for her telling my stalker that I had to serve him, and to tell them when I refused to or if he felt unsatisfied with my performance.
Spoiler alert: I was not the receptionist. But part of my job did include front desk work.
Sorry for not smiling while serving my stalker. Sorry not sorry.
Oh, that leads me to my next hassly line.
Woman police yelling into the phone:
WHY ARE YOU CALLING THE POLICE IF YOU ARE STALKED ON CAMPUS. TELL THE CAMPUS POLICE!"*Click*
Me sitting at the front desk in full view of the stalker trying not to cry.
Somehow I survived and did not die.
Best hassly line from multiple people on being stalked:
It is not that he harmed you. What is the big deal. Are you done pretending to be the victim."
Me crying about being stalked and/or bullied.
Multiple helplines/crisis lines/therapists...
"WHAT ARE YOU CRYING ABOUT!? STOP CRYING! YOU THINK YOU ARE SUCH A VICTIM!"
A few of the hassly lines that I remember and thought of sharing.
Surely these would count as hassly lines, right?
I am not so sure anymore. Considering that this happened to be on such a regular basis. Not so sure anymore.
For the record, it is VERY terrifying to be stalked.
The fact that the stalker ONLY stalks you at work is not the comfort or flex that people keep making it out to be.
It was a very terrifying and horrible year.
Typing this years later, after THAT year, I feel the tremor of my being vibrate down my arms into the fingertips that are typing this.
Oh… this sounds extremely stressful.
DeleteTerrible treatment!
DeleteNo one suggested a restraining order?
T, I am so sorry this happened to you! It sounds absolutely terrifying. It makes me crazy that so many people minimize and dismiss the suffering of others as if it were their life’s work.
DeleteHank, it WAS very stressful.
DeleteAnonymous, everyone at work scoffed at the idea of a restraining order. As in, why would a restraining order be necessary. He is not doing anything. He has the right to be there.
I did look up on filing a restraining order, but gave up after the concern that it might work against me. Also, the possibility that I might need to face the stalker in court. I was scared that he would start stalking me outside of work. And the police said that school campuses are outside their jurisdiction... And the campus police refused to acknowledge that I was being stalked. So...
Andrea, thank you. Thank you for your kind words and compassion.
I love your line of "people minimize and dismiss the suffering of others as if it were their life’s work." Brilliant.
There is no doubt a correlation between negativity and stress-related issues and how it affects our health. I read the same article, Hank, and my response was "Well...Duh..." So in a word..."Obvious". As far as the male vs. female ratio of "hasslers" I recall an Asthma Specialist from a well-known adult asthma center once telling me that his patients diagnosed with asthma over 40 were for the most part females. The reasoning being that women in their 40's experience many life-changing events that are stress-related. They are empty nesting, caregiving, premenopausal individuals who are trying to juggle the emotional vs the physical changes in their lives within a certain time frame. It would be, of course, unfair of me to say that men don't go through their own mental as well as physical changes, too, but women have had to move forward to be accepted into a sometimes male-dominated world both personally as well as professionally for many generations. Chip...chip...chipping away at the stereotype version we were often expected to be. So there's that. In general, however, for everyone, how many times a specialist has reminded me that mental health stress eventually leads to physical health issues...well...I have lost count. Today, beyond just the emotional warfare we may be forced to participate in with family, friends and co-workers is yet another obvious culprit...social media. I think often times the worst offender of all. We are bombarded with "information" and sensationalism. There are unknown armchair experts who cowardly hide behind their keyboards spreading faux news, who often make themselves judge and jury of everyone and whose hurtful, hate-filled words will cut like a knife. Clueless to be open to bipartisan conversations and discussions that once filled many light-hearted, civilized and comfortable social sites. I took a sabbatical from Facebook when I realized that I was doing too much "doomscrolling". I was mentally exhausted from reading so much negativity on a daily basis. I had lost my concentration and focus on real life and those individuals and qualities in life that brought me joy and a purpose. We all experience stress in our lives. It's inescapable but who ever said life was easy. It is often a challenge whether on the home front or in the workforce but finding ways to calm the buzzing brought on by others or circumstances is essential. Especially as we grow older; it "ain't" easy. Life can be like a tilt-a-wheel of loss and compromise. And so many changes. I gather that by many of the comments stated on this blog. Heartaches a plenty BUT.also joyfulness too...I believe this is a group of individuals who gather together to interact respectfully with each other, to lighten the load of everyday living for each other and for certain...support each other and help navigate each other through the trials of life's roadblocks as well as joyful moments. It is because of Hank Phillippi Ryan I made my way to this blog and I thank her for that. I may not be as dependable as many of these bloggers are on a daily basis but I appreciate being a part of the Jungle Red Writers and Readers world just the same.
ReplyDeleteOh, Evelyn, we love having you here! Welcome welcome welcome!
DeleteThank you so much...I truly mean that in all sincerity. xoxo
DeleteWait, someone got PAID to write that story as if it were news. Sheesh.
ReplyDeleteYou just made me laugh, Kait! Thank you!
DeleteJust too obvious. Elisabeth
ReplyDeleteAgreed!xx
ReplyDeleteHasslers?!!! Who knew? I mean I guess I knew but having it quantified in actual years lost is...upsetting. I can't think of anything specifically done to me other than pettiness by certain people, who I didn't care enough about to feel hassled so i guess that's a win?
ReplyDeleteJenn ~ Definitely a big win! Well played.If you let hasslers rent space in your head for too long they become squatters who know all the tricks to manipulate your emotions forever. I once let a former classmate who was part of "the click" in high school raise holy hell with our "friendship" years later after everyone found each other on Facebook. I learned that I would never be a "first stringer" in her circle, and the moment I didn't play the game the way she wanted she went on a sophomoric rampage trying to destroy my credibility. Mind you...this was decades later and we were both in our sixties. It took me nearly 3 years and a challenging real life event later to jolt me back into the land of good sense. I left that hefty luggage by the side of the road and never looked back. Now I can't even remember the specifics anymore. Lesson learned...Don't ever let anyone gain control or fill my head with their childish nonsense again.
DeleteYes, Jenn, good plan!
DeleteEvelyn--love this: "I left that hefty luggage by the side of the road." Perfect!
DeleteI've "littered" the roadway many times during my lifetime, Hank... :-)
DeleteYep, yep, yep. All the above.
ReplyDeleteMy brother's first two wives (of three, this one's finally a keeper) were this way, always trying to bait me. The first would constantly talk down to me--six years older than she--and condemn me for not going to church. Never mind that I grew up going to church every day for 12 years of Catholic school, and I still feel I have kneeling hours banked. Her holier-than-thou act dissolved completely when she was discovered to have been having an affair--while on a church-led mission trip.
The second one, ten years younger than me, once told me condescendingly, I just needed more confidence. Never mind I had had my own business by then, giving seminars and talks all over the country, for 15 years. We won't even discuss her complete ignorance of world affairs. I have tried to put her most inane comments out of my mind.
The truth is these hasslers only age you if you let them. The best defense is to laugh.
Karen,
DeleteYou could have told her - "Now we know why you went to church so often."
Yes, all about laughing!
DeleteI was so lucky when I was in my early 20's and my first job included the two owners, and two other office employees, an accountant and me. It was the most wonderful group of people to work for...until they had to hire on more staff as we got bigger and needed more people. The dynamics shifted and it became too impersonal and everyone seemed out of touch with each other compared to when it was just the 6 of us.
ReplyDeleteI do remember one new accounting employee used to say things like, he "jewed' me down. I guess not realizing I was converting to Judaism and told her that wasn't appropriate. She didn't last long in our company - thank goodness. This was back in the early 1970's and another thing I tried to "correct" was inappropriate comments/jokes about women. Times have changed in terms of awareness, and if not now there are legal remedies for the egregious ones. I do think men are more aggressive today toward women than when I was working - because I was young, most of the men were very protective of me.
Also, I am a firm believer that a school principal, especially high school, can make a difference for the entire staff, all the parents and students. A good one makes everyone and the communities' life so much better. A bad one can be a disaster.
SO wise about a school principal!
DeleteKaren - "Her holier-than-thou act dissolved completely when she was discovered to have been having an affair--while on a church-led mission trip." Hahahaha - that is rich!!
ReplyDeleteWe've seen many priests, ministers, etc go down in flames for the same acts.
True. Argh.
DeleteMy oncologist always concluded each appointment with, " Remember, stress kills.". I had family members who were particularly cruel and nasty during that time which my doctor was aware of. I haven't had to deal with them for years now, thank God.
ReplyDeleteYes, to that! What a thoughtful and wise doctor, too.
DeleteFirst off, Anon, you are so right about a school principal making a difference to the staff, kids and parents. I worked in elementary schools, but had some doozies of principals, unfortunately, mostly in the negative category. The one who was having an affair with the vice-principal was beloved by the parents and kids, but oh, how many of the staff suffered from his actions.
ReplyDeleteI am retired and very much enjoying my life now. But at night, I bring back so many former co-workers to invade my dreams. I’m talking from 40 years ago! Perhaps my unconscious mind is taking care of them for me, even if I had not consciously thought about them for, well, a long time. — Pat S
Oh, no, in your DREAMS?? Can you laugh at them in your dreams?
DeleteMy unpleasant ex-husband invades my dreams too often. Just...go away, John! At least it isn't in person...
DeleteI had a co-worker who worked part time,, always wanted to know what everyone else was doing and would try to tell them what and how to do their job. She would then complain if they didn’t follow what she perceived was the way things should be done.She was told repeatedly that it wasn’t her responsibility, especially those who were at a higher level than she was. One time, among many, she started doing the same thing to me., criticizing the fact that I wasn’t doing my job. I told her that she was only there part time, left early in the day and wasn’t there every day whereas I worked full days and a night and she had no idea what I did when she wasn’t around. This more or less put a temporary stop to her critiques, but she had a short term memory and follow the same pattern repeatedly. It wasn’t totally satisfactory, but the best way of dealing with her was to just try to ignore her and enjoy the days she wasn’t there.
ReplyDeletePeople are SO weird. :-)
DeleteWell, duh. I hope they didn't spend too much money figuring that out. And I hope it wasn't government funded.
ReplyDeleteI know, right? I could have told htem that for MUCH less.
DeleteI know it is frequently hard to do, but you have to put these individuals in the proper context of your life either through humor or just think about the positive aspects of people who are around you.
ReplyDeleteI try to compliment or say something pleasant to those I encounter because I know people are more likely to voice a complaint and take positive things for granted and don’t mention them.
Most people are nice and pleasant in day to day interactions, but it is often the ones who are negative or who made things difficult for you that you dwell on and they stay in your mind.
SO true!
DeleteThey needed a study for this?? Still, a good reminder that these things take a toll, and a reminder that I'm so happy to be self-employed! I grew up so coddled by my parents who were never critical, had supportive professors in college, then my first real job--yikes!!! What a wake up call that was. Two bosses (male), and I couldn't begin to catalogue all the mean and inappropriate behavior. Fortunately, I've erased most of it from my memory bank.
ReplyDeleteyes, I agree, it's interesting to quantify it, somehow, and maybe that gives us more power to laugh it off.
DeleteIt's no surprise to me that negative relationships in your life can shorten it. There are people in your life with whom you have conversations that involve no judgement or recall of past events that make you feel regret. These people who love the person you are and only want to uplift you are the ones you need to communicate often. Unfortunately, there are too many people who get some sort of perverse pleasure out of being critical. I had a friend that I had known since we were youngsters going to the same church and we stayed friends into adulthood. But it started seeming like every time I talked to her online or on the phone (we live five or six hours apart), she would brag on her life and make me feel small. There was no comfort for me in our conversations, so I finally decided after she made a particularly cruel comment that took me back to a bad event that I had no obligation to keep in touch with her, so our relationship became a rare contact. I am much better off for it, as it was truly a negative relationship for me. And, let me add that grief from losing my son has given me permission to dismiss negative people much more quickly. I don't have the energy for them.
ReplyDeleteAnon above was so right when she said that family stressful or negative relationships are so much harder to walk away from. I have been dealing with one for a while now, and it's not a relationship I want to lose. However, at some point you have to practice self-preservation and limit the contact.
Oh, dear Kathy. Self-Preservation is the key..
DeleteThe problem comes when they are close friends or worse--family.
ReplyDeleteSadly, so. But we have learned to rely on our own wisdom.
Delete