HALLIE EPHRON: One of the great pleasures of the teaching I get to do is the talented authors I meet.
When I was teaching a week-long class this summer on mystery writing in Paris for WICE (Where Internationals Connect In English), I got to hang out with fantastic writer and all-around delightful person, Janet Skeslien Charles.
She's the New York Times international bestselling author of The Paris Library, as well as Miss Morgan’s Book Brigade, The Parisian Chapter, and Moonlight in Odessa.
Janet grew up in Montana but now she's living in Paris, speaks fluent French, and writes and teaches in English. It was so much fun getting to hang out with her, and I never got to ask her how, on earth, has she done something that I could never imagine doing: traveling widely, living abroad, and learning to think and breathe (and write!) in another language?
First thing I'm dying to know: How did a girl from Montana end up writing living in Paris and writing a HUGE international bestseller??
JANET SKESLIEN CHARLES: It was wonderful to spend time with you, Hallie! Thank you for your kind words.
I became interested in France because as a child my neighbor was a war bride from Normandy. In 1998, I got a job teaching English in France and meant to live there for a school year, but ended up staying in Paris… for 25 years!
In 2010, I was writing a novel set in Ukraine at home in my apartment. Unfortunately, my building underwent massive construction, so to escape the hammering, I got a job at the American Library in Paris.
On my first day at work, I knew the place was a novel.
I researched the librarians who defied the Nazis in order to hand-deliver books to Jewish readers.
After painful rejections from my first agent and the publisher of my debut novel, I queried 75 agents and was accepted by Heather Jackson. After ten looong years, The Paris Library was finally published and became a New York Times bestseller. The follow-up book The Parisian Chapter was finally published in 2025, after fifteen years.
I mention this in case fellow writers are reading this. Keep writing! Keep going!
HALLIE: And how does that [spirit of adventure?] imbue your characters and your storytelling?
JANET: At heart, I’m interested in journeys and the way that we react to changes in circumstances, whether it be marriage, divorce, widowhood, a new job, getting fired, having children, not having children, becoming an empty nester, breaking up with a friend, having cancer or Covid, or moving to a new country.
My debut, Moonlight in Odessa, is about the booming business of email-order brides. Several of my Ukrainian friends – talented, motivated, intelligent women – married foreigners to escape poverty.
In my second novel The Paris Library, a librarian who has made a terrible mistake flees France by marrying a G.I.
Though the books are set in different countries and eras, the themes and plight of the main characters – one an email-order bride, the other a war bride – are essentially the same. I describe people out of their elements as they deal with loss of the familiar or loss of loved ones. At some point in our lives, most of us usually have to start over.
My books are about and for people who struggle.
HALLIE: I'm fascinated to hear about the travel and research you did to write that debut novel, Moonlight in Odessa.
JANET: Growing up in small-town Montana during the Cold War, I was a voracious reader of books, magazines, and newspapers.
As a teen, I noticed that color photographs taken in France or England featured young people having fun on the beach or dancing, while photos taken in the Soviet Union featured old women in headscarves waiting in line for bread. These pictures were always in black and white.
I knew those images didn’t tell the whole story, and so I wanted to see for myself. I took Russian classes at the University of Montana with the intention of working in the (then) Soviet Union.
At this time, I translated letters from lonely Montanan men to Russian and Ukrainian women, who the men had found through catalogues. International Matchmaking Organizations: A Report to Congress (1999) notes that, “Mail-order marriage is not a new phenomenon—it is an inseparable part of North American history and the settlement of the United States.” My home state was in part populated by mail-order brides in the 1800s and early 1900s.
I interviewed dozens of women, women who took a chance on love and moved across the world to marry someone they didn’t know very well. I’m interested in war brides and email order brides because of their courage and grit.
HALLIE: Your novels tend to be set in the historical past. How have you chosen the backdrops for your stories? Or have they chosen you?
JANET: I feel lucky to stumble onto the stories. When I was thinking about working in the former Soviet Union, I opened an atlas and pointed to a spot, which is how I ended up in Odessa. (After Montanan winters, I aimed for someplace warm.)
Odessans are incredible people, and I wanted to write about the city and its people, through the experiences of one woman. That novel was interrupted by construction on my apartment building. The hammering drove me out of my comfort zone and into a job that led to other stories.
So there’s an element of chance, and element of making the best of things, and paying sharp attention and asking questions.
HALLIE: I love the way you described your own special approach to writing: "If I have a specialty in writing, it is taking poorly paid jobs and turning them into novels." Tell us more, please!
Janet: Oh my goodness! My first professional job was teaching English in Odessa, Ukraine.
Thanks to a fellowship from the Soros Foundation, I received an airline ticket, travel insurance, and a $100 monthly stipend. The contract stipulated that I earn 120% of a head teacher’s salary. Fresh out of college, I would earn the same amount as an experienced teacher. Not bad!
Imagine my surprise at receiving my first pay and learning that my monthly salary was $25.
Young and inexperienced, I didn’t know which questions to ask. Despite the very low wages, I loved my job and my time in Odessa.
At the library, my contract was for minimum wage and fifteen hours a week. My colleagues and I all worked overtime. The boss promised “comp time” that never materialized.
I wish I’d had better boundaries. I’m proud of today’s generation, who are standing up for themselves on the job. Still, it worked out because I published a library trilogy about real-life American librarians who worked in France during world wars.
Miss Morgan’s Book Brigade features Jessie Carson, a Pittsburgh librarian who joined the American Committee for Devasted France. This all-woman aid organization worked just forty miles from the Front and helped civilians who had lost their homes and livelihoods.
Jessie Carson created the first children’s libraries in France during World War I. After the war, she founded libraries in Paris and Northern France. She paved the way for an international library school, which French authorities dubbed “The Wild West Library School.” It was housed in the library where I worked.
HALLIE: Can you tell us a little about of your newest book and the spark that got you hooked writing it?
JANET: My latest novel is The Parisian Chapter, which is set during dark moments in the City of Light in the 1990s. I took copious notes while working at the American Library in Paris as the programs manager. My coworkers, trustees, and library members fascinated me. When people from different walks of life cross paths – it creates friction.
In the novel, the main character Lily meets an extraordinary cast of characters—including her favorite writer, struggling students, haughty trustees, and devoted volunteers—each with their own stories...and agendas.
My favorite review of the book calls it “The Devil Wears Prada, set in a library.”
The novel is an ode to libraries. It’s for anyone who's ever chased a dream, lost a friend, or found a place that feels like home - even if it's across the world.
HALLIE: Where should readers be looking for you to hear firsthand about you and your storytelling?
JANET: The Parisian Chapter came out in May, and I’m excited that my debut Moonlight in Odessa is being re-issued on December 1st.
My favorite place to connect with readers is my website jskesliencharles.com or my Substack newsletter, where I write about the women who inspire me, books I love, and life in Montana and Paris. My favorite post is about the similarities of writing and wheat farming (my parents’ profession). A Golden Harvest - by Janet Skeslien Charles https://jskesliencharles.substack.com/p/a-golden-harvest
Thank you so much for having me on Jungle Red Writers!
HALLIE: THANK YOU!!
Janet will be hanging out here at Jungle Red today, checking in possibly from Paris... so please, share your reactions and questions... please, pile on!














Welcome Janet! I don't know how I missed reading this, but it's now safely downloaded to my ipad. Now I'm envious all over again of Hallie's teaching gig in Paris, as well as your 25 years there:). I'd love to hear more about what that move to Paris was like?
ReplyDeleteThank you so much for your kind words of welcome! It was so fun to spend time with Hallie. Moving to Paris was challenging even though I spoke French. The housing and job markets are pretty tight. But over time, I made great friends and started feeling at home.
DeleteTake it from me, Janet navigates Paris like a true Parisienne...
DeleteCongratulations on all that, Janet! What a treat to hear about your stories. I've lived abroad for a year at a time five times (Brazil, Japan, France, Mali, and Burkina Faso), but I always wanted to get home after the year was up. You must feel so comfortable among the French. Did you already speak the language when you arrived in Paris?
ReplyDeleteEdith, I would LOVE to hear more about your year in Burkina Faso. I was hired right after I retired to do some freelance writing for a charity that focuses on helping the oppressed Christians in Burkina Faso. After a couple assignments, I told them I would just donate my writing as I was so moved to support their work. Prior to that, I didn't even know the country existed!
DeleteHello, Edith, You are a word traveler with four continents under your belt. That must have been amazing to see all those different cultures. I did speak French, but it has taken a long time to feel comfortable here. Growing up, my neighbor was a French war bride, and speaking to her ignited my curiosity about France.
DeleteIf that's a typo ("word" traveler) I LOVE IT!!
DeleteA world traveler and a word traveler! xoxox
DeleteCongratulations, Janet! How I wish I'd had the talent to turn all my poorly paid jobs into terrific novels! I look forward to catching up with your books. (Selden)
ReplyDeleteThank you so much! It is not too late to turn your experience into words. One of my great joys in life is teaching creative writing and helping people find their voices. Maybe take a class near you? There are also online classes. I hope that you will enjoy my books, and I hope that you will be inspired to start writing.
DeleteI hope you all are getting the sense that Janet could have TAUGHT the class I was teaching...
DeleteLovely to meet you and your writing here, Janet. I think "turning poorly paid jobs into novels" is a wonderful thing and should maybe be a TV series with a super hero female who liberates all who toil and trudge their way through interminably boring days! I'm off to find your books, now. My question is, Do you dip your baguette into your café au lait in the mornings to start your day?
ReplyDeleteSo lovely to meet you, too, Amanda! I love your idea about a series of a superhero liberating people from jobs they don't enjoy. I did start my day with a café au lait, but enjoyed it with a banana, not a baguette. There was no dipping of the banana. ; - ) My books are available at your local library. I hope that you will check them out!
DeleteI'm guessing they're also available in audio...
DeleteJanet, what a fascinating life story! Your description of the origins of your stories is inspiring. I also lived abroad for 2 years, had a job and immersed myself in a culture very different from New England. At the end of my experiment, I went home. It never occurred to me then, that I had a story to tell that could become a book. I so admire your recognizing that and seeing it through! My question for you is: over the 10 years and 15 years of developing your stories, how much did the plots and the characters have to change before they were published?
ReplyDeleteThank you, Judy! It is not too late to write down your experiences. That is why I wrote Moonlight in Odessa - to be able to stay in the city I loved, at least in my mind. Concerning the plot of The Paris Library, it changed radically. The first drafts focused on Odile's war bride journey, but the later drafts shifted to her experience during World War II in Paris. This was me working out the story, and it was a natural progression over several years.
DeleteYEARS is the key noun here. It takes an insane amount of time for most of us to get the storytelling right... or right "enough"
DeleteCongratulations, Janet . . . I'm so impressed by your "turning poorly-paid jobs into novels" . . . it's amazing to know some of the background involved . . . thanks for sharing your stories.
ReplyDeleteThank you so much, Joan! I'm proof that it is never too late to write. I left Ukraine in 1996 and published my novel set there in 2009. Writing about Odessa was a way to keep thinking about all the wonderful experiences I had in the city.
DeleteI've heard it estimated that 10 years is about par for the course for most of us getting to THE END for the last time on or first novels. In the meantime you need a job, any job, just to keep getting.
DeleteCongratulations, Janet! I’ve subscribed to your substack and am putting your books on hold at our library! I was a French major in college and spent a semester in Grenoble, sharing a large hotel room (with our own bath) with 3 other women in the program. Haven’t been to Paris since 2015. Whata place to work and live! Merci bien!
ReplyDeleteMerci beaucoup for subscribing, Suzette! I appreciate your support and interest in my work. Grenoble is lovely! It was always my dream to live like Simone de Beauvoir in a hotel room, and you had that experience. Bon week-end!
DeleteOh Janet, I am thrilled to see you here at JR. I absolutely loved THE PARIS LIBRARY when I read it in 2022 -- gave it a glowing 5-star review. Though I have to admit, I think my sister-in-law did a better job with her one-sentence review: "I stood and applauded upon finishing this book". I had somehow not realized you had other books out there for me to enjoy. I will now look forward to enjoying those, as well. I am particularly fascinated with the one about mail order brides!
ReplyDeleteHello, Susan, a huge thank-you for reading THE PARIS LIBRARY! I'm so glad that you and your sister enjoyed it. It was very interesting to research the books. For the email-order bride one, I interviewed so many women and men about their experiences. You might also enjoy MISS MORGAN'S BOOK BRIGADE, which is also about a real-life American librarian who works in France - this time in World War I. Thank you again for reading my work!
DeleteI have a friend who is Vietnamese and was a mail order bride. Married a Chinese man who was living here. Decades later, happily married, has great kids and own their home... a very happy ending.
Deletehi Janet, It's lovely to hear a little about your adventures and your novels. My mom was a young librarian in the post war years who went to the UK to work for a year. She ended up bringing another young librarian (dad) home to Oregon. I'm sure I will love your books!
ReplyDeleteIt sounds like your mother had a wonderful adventure in the UK. I love that she brought home another librarian. Working in a library changed my life, and I'm sure this was true for your parents, too. Happy reading!
DeleteWhat a lovely story, Gillian!
DeleteWelcome, Janet! What a wonderful depth of experiences to mine for books. If only the poorly paid jobs of my youth would produce such fodder.
ReplyDeleteI was thinking the same thing, Liz. One summer I worked for an import-export company typing invoices ALL DAY LONG... Excruciatingly boring. When they wanted to renew my contract I said thanks but no thanks, and went back to school.
DeleteHello, Liz, Yes, those jobs were definitely an experience, and I'm glad that I could write about the highs and lows of low-paying jobs. ; - )
DeleteHallie, exactly. My first job out of college was nothing except writing templated letters declining applications for loans. That one did not produce much drama or excitement.
DeleteThis is so fascinating! I’m curious, too, how did you learn to be so fluent in French? Did you take classes, or was it just total immersion and you had to learn? And I love your series of turning adventurous and surprises into novels… The writer mind is so magical, isn’t it? You said you looked at a place and it was a novel. That’s so wonderful. Welcome welcome welcome!
ReplyDeleteToo bad there isn't a vaccine for it... learn french with "one shot"... I do think some people have an easier time learning a new language, above and beyond being more motivated.
DeleteThank you so much for your warm welcome! In my hometown of 2,000 inhabitants, we only had two years of French in high school. I did my best in class - French was as hard as math for me, and then got to live with a French family for a month. They didn't speak English, so that forced me to practice my French. Yes, the writer mind is magical. I feel very lucky that I could share my experiences as well as show the plight of email-order brides.
DeleteThank you so much for your warm welcome! In my hometown of 2,000 inhabitants, we only had two years of French in high school. I did my best in class - French was as hard as math for me, and then got to live with a French family for a month. They didn't speak English, so that forced me to practice my French. Yes, the writer mind is magical. I feel very lucky that I could share my experiences as well as show the plight of email-order brides.
DeleteI agree there are some who pick up languages much better than others. But, living in a foreign country and not speaking your own language but being "forced" to speak another language helps significantly.
DeleteBut it takes a certain kind of person to "suffer" through the initial indignities of not having a clue what's going on, and having that motivate them to learn (rather than flee!)
DeleteYes, Hallie, so agree! But it would be so so worth it. And Janet, in real life, how often did you have to say "where is the library?" and "The cat in in the grass?" Or whatever the textbooks think you should know what to say.... I really think total immersion, sink or swim, is such a difficult but ultimately.successful way.
DeleteCongrats Janet and thanks Hallie for introducing us to her books. Seems like mail order brides were the forerunners to e"mail" brides today. I know many who've met via a mail type correspondence (what we call social media) and have had successful relationships including marriage. So even though it is not pen and pencil correspondence but internet it is the same bringing people together in unconventional ways.
ReplyDeleteHello! Yes, I had a dear friend who met her husband through eHarmony. She was terrible at small talk, so people thought she was standoffish. But meeting online meant she could take her time to answer questions. They met in person very quickly and are doing very well. Email-order brides and their grooms are in a different situation because of the cultural differences and language barriers. It is interesting to see so many ways to connect.
DeleteFeels like there's a difference between folks who meet via email and marry versus true mail order bride... Certainly a very different "balance of power" and resources between the bride and her prospective groom. But maybe not...
DeleteI find some of my best reads from the Jungle Reds recommendations. Congratulations on the new book and I'm excited to be introduced to your others. Off I go to download The Paris Library. (I love Paris. I love libraries and I love to read! Feels like a win win!)
ReplyDeleteIt's like hitting the trifecta!
DeleteHi, Gerri, Yes, I can see that Jungle Reds is a wonderful literary community! I hope that you will enjoy spending time in The Paris Library! Happy reading and bon voyage into the book!
DeleteHi, Janet! Another Montana girl here. I loved The Paris Library and was delighted that you brought the story back to Froid. I knew a couple of those war brides myself and found them and their stories fascinating. As are the mail-order brides -- one worked her way into a historical novella of mine set near Cascade in the 1890s, back when they were called picture brides!
ReplyDelete"Picture brides" - that's a term I haven't heard.Tough for the plain Jane...
DeleteHi, Janet! Another Montana girl here. I loved The Paris Library and was delighted that you brought the story back to Froid. I knew a couple of those war brides myself and found them and their stories fascinating. As are the mail-order brides -- one worked her way into a historical novella of mine set near Cascade in the 1890s, back when they were called picture brides!
ReplyDeleteHello, Leslie, how great to hear from a fellow Montanan writer! Your novella sounds fascinating. Thank you so much for reading The Paris Library. My neighbors in Shelby are from Froid, which is how I hear of the town. Happy writing!
DeleteI just had dinner with my longtime mom friends and one of them handed me this book and said, "Read it. You'll love it." I am so thrilled that you're here, Janet, and now I'm even more excited to dig in.
ReplyDeleteHello, Jenn, I am such a HUGE fan of your Library Lover's series - from the clever titles to the great characters to the library setting. I hope that you will enjoy my work as much as I've enjoyed yours.
DeleteYOU GUYS SHOULD KNOW EACH OTHER!!
DeleteI agree!!!!!!!
DeleteThank you, Janet, for the wonderful The Paris Library. I listened to it over the summer, and enjoyed it very much. How lovely, to know the story goes on, too. If I ever have a chance to visit the American Library, I feel as if it will be as familiar as our community's library.
ReplyDeleteWe have had two friends who married mail order brides: Nick's second wife came from Russia, and they are still married, 30+ years later.
The other married three different women: the first via snail mail, from Australia. The second, via email, from the Philippines. And #3, who he was married to when he passed away two years ago, from Colombia. Roger was paralyzed from the waist down at age 19 in a motorcycle accident, and was one of the bravest people I have ever known, and super independent. He used to drive from Cincinnati to Fort Lauderdale this time of year, and back in the spring, in a van that was fitted out with a lift and hand controls. Roger is the reason I became interested in barrier-free living spaces, too.
His first wife was possibly insane, and although he worked hard at trying to make it work, he finally had to throw in the towel. The second wife's children demanded too much from her and Roger, and she finally went back to California. But he hit the jackpot with Damari, who was good to him for the rest of his life, and they were very happy.
There are four novels, right there!
Four... at least!
DeleteThank you for listening to the book! I'm glad that you enjoyed it. How interesting that you have two friends who married mail-order brides! Lots of stories there.
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