JULIA SPENCER-FLEMING: Now comes the week of Hallowe’en, and with it, my perennial question: to buy candy, or not?
I live on a rural road with seven house close together - the way New Englanders settled, with your neighbors near and a LOT of acreage behind. The year Ross and I moved in with 17 month old Smithie and the one month old Boy, we were hitting a wave. Four of the houses had turned over in the past two years, and we all had babies and toddler.
For the first years, that worked out delightfully. Seven houses is more than enough for three to five year olds, and because we didn’t live in a place where others came to Trick or Treat, everyone was generous with their candy bowls. Special shout-out to the late Steve Heroux, who gave out cold Shipyard Pumpkinhead Ale to all the grownups.
But kid get older, and they make friends well outside of your small neighborhood, and they start to hear about the hauls their classmates made in nearby developments and at their grandmother’s suburbs. My kids went to Catholic school in the big city of Portland, Maine (pop. 70,000) and their tiny urban friends made serious Trick or Treat hauls. I’m talking house giving out full sized chocolate bars.
So we began spending the evening at a friends house; Shari would make a delicious chili and homemade bread for everyone, we’d take our pack of youngsters out and about, and everyone had a good time. (Yes, concerned parents, Ross and I did sequester the trick or treat bags and doled out reasonable portions of the candy. Starting on November 1st.)
Fast forward to 2026. There are still seven houses in our neighborhood, but only two families have children. There’s a new couple with a teenager part-time, and the rest of us are all on Medicare. For at least the past three or four years, no one’s come to my door, despite my lit candles and friendly pumpkins. And here’s the rub - part of the reason I’ve lost thirty pounds over the past 3-4 years is by not buying any sweets. Never have them in the house. Niente.
But. But….
Reds, what would you do? And how is trick or treating in your neighborhood?
HANK PHILLIPPI RYAN: No one ever comes. No one. Ever. Comes. We live in a neighborhood that has a lot of houses, but they’re far apart, and we have a long driveway. I have always thought that trick-or-treaters make a return- on investment assessment, and decide it’s too far to walk for what they could possibly receive.
But I look out for them every year, with high hopes, because I absolutely love to see little kids in costumes.
We faithfully buy trick-or-treat candy, and we have some unopened bags in our pantry from, I’m afraid, years ago. (But it’s still fine, right?)
Last week at Costco we bought a massive box of individually packaged chips and pretzels, Funyuns and Bugles and stuff like that to hand out instead of candy. Do you think kids would like that?
I am still going to buy some Twizzlers, even if I have to dress up and knock on our door to get them.
JENN McKINLAY: We were not prepared when we moved into the suburbs surrounded by three elementary schools and a middle school. Lord-a-mercy, we ran through three bags of candy in a half hour and had to shut out the lights and hide. The next ten years we went through 10-15 bags of candy (thankfully, this was the Hooligans’ trick or treating era and they enjoyed it to the fullest). Then the recession hit and so many families moved out. Our neighborhood became an ASU suburb and it was all man-buns and the faint whiff of weed smoke for a few years, then the families came back but not as many. Now we go through a respectable five bags of candy, if we’re home and not traveling.
HALLIE EPHRON: FIFTEEN BAGS?!? Yikes.
I love Halloween, and we have a pretty active trick-or-treat neighborhood with a fresh crop of kiddoes. We only go through 2-3 bags of candy. I try to buy the kind *I* like just in case there are leftovers, but usually by morning the candy’s gone.
We get a blast of little ones at around 6PM, then a lull, then older kids. After 8 I just put the leftovers in a bowl on the front steps and by morning it’s all gone and I’ll be lucky if no one’s smashed the pumpkin we had on the front steps.
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DEBORAH CROMBIE: Wow, fifteen bags, that’s a LOT of candy!! I never remember to buy candy in time and the supermarkets are always sold out by the time I think about it. Maybe Hank should send me some of hers?? We haven’t done trick or treating in quite a few years now. There are some blocks in our neighborhood that get Jenn’s amount of traffic, but we’ve never had more than a few. Also, we have to shut up the dog, who barks like a maniac even if the little fairies and goblins don’t ring the doorbell, so it’s easier just to turn off the porch light.
And now I feel like a grinch!
RHYS BOWEN: I live up a steep hill so have never had many kids coming. When we first moved in there were other families on our block and one big boy was a witch with a cauldron that terrified my kids. Recently it’s two or three at the most, although John always bought several bags of Kit Kat. Oh dear. Now I guess I’ll just have to eat these!
I never did much in the way of decorating, but now I have Anne living with me… former theater person.. And we’re having a pumpkin carving party tomorrow. My house already looks like this: Going to be fun!
LUCY BURDETTE: Rhys, those decorations are priceless–if they don’t give you a heart attack! We’re like Hank, we just don’t get kids. The payoff in our neighborhood is poor. Yesterday at the Stop and Shop I had the candy or no candy debate, and ended up with one bag of Nestle’s Crunch just in case. I looked at the Twizzlers and thought of you Hank! But I knew I would eat them all so I left them on the shelf.
When I got home, I said to John, “I tried to choose something we don’t much like.”
“You were successful,” he said. Now we hope a few kids come because WE WILL EAT THEM ANYWAY. There would never ever be bags of candy left lingering in our pantry!
JULIA: And of course, if you or your spouse don't leave for the office, the old trick of taking the temptation away to work isn't available! One year when Hallowe'en was on a Saturday, I dumped the rest of the candy in a bowl and set it out for coffee hour at St. Luke's. Sorry, fellow parishioners on a diet.
How about you, dear readers? Do you expect trick or treaters? And how will you prepare for them?















In our neighborhood, it's a l-o-n-g walk between houses, so we don't expect [and have never had] Trick-or-Treaters wandering down the street and knocking on doors . . . we don't buy candy that we know we will have to eat ourselves.
ReplyDeleteWhen I was young in the 1960s we lived on a LONG driveway in our suburb, so we rarely got trick-or-treaters, though we went out ourselves. Now my husband and I are rural on a highway so... zero. Our town does a Halloween parade (in many years costumes over snowsuits) and kids go door to door at the stores on Main Street. In our son's town in rural CT they have a "Trunk or Treat" event where small kids essentially attend a Halloween themed tailgate candy party in a parking lot. It seems sad to me but the children don't appear to mind.
ReplyDeleteOur daughter was born by c-section October 30. We were living in the Bay Area then and our 10-year-old son was taken trick-or-treating with school friends in San Francisco. At one house, Robin Williams answered the door! He was funny and kind to all. This may have briefly eclipsed the birth of a sister. (Selden)
MAY have eclipsed? If that had happened to me, I'd still be telling that Robin Williams story like it was yesterday.
DeleteHa, ha Jay! My son had wanted a sibling for so long that her arrival was a big deal. (As he had said to me, when I told him that she was expected: "How can you be so calm, Mom? I'm going to be A BROTHER!") Still, Robin Williams was pretty special.
DeleteWell, we don’t have the buy or not buy candy conundrum living in a 55+ adult community as there are no kids. I miss it.
ReplyDeleteThe Sheriff’s dept does hold an event at our public square so we can go over there if we want to see kids in costumes.
In our old neighborhood we had over 100 kids the first few years, but the original kids aged out. We had quite a lull maybe getting 20-25 kids…we gave out full size candy bars during that time. You get that reputation and it makes it worth it to walk to the end of the culdesac with few lights on.
People seem to like the Trunk or Treat events. More haul for less work.
Kids will like getting the chips, Hank! (And if they don’t they will give them to their parents.)
With the rise of the whole Trunk-or-Treat movement, my neighborhood no longer gets the 300 kids or so coming to everyone's door. But I still do get plenty of kids. Around 100 or so last year.
ReplyDeleteI don't decorate unless you count not raking up leaves falling from trees. And my set of rules still apply for the trick-or-treaters and their parents.
But I have plenty of candy, even while still trying to get back on my feet with the job. My sister will be coming over and she'll probably bring a couple bags of candy as well. I've got plenty of comic books thanks to leftovers from previous years and my Buffalo-based comics consigliere Justin who sent me a bunch of this year's comics from Free Comic Book Day / Comics Giveaway Day (NO CHARGE!). And I have prizes for good costumes. Little mystery Star Wars figures, some Nightmare Before Christmas mystery figures and other such stuff.
I work until 4pm on Halloween and then I'll have to rush home and get ready to roll for 3 hours or so as it is another year of being THE COMIC BOOK HOUSE!
Wow, how wonderful! (Selden)
DeleteI haven't heard of the Trunk or Treating Movement but apparently there are a few places where we live that hold them. But, it doesn't seem as fun to me as walking around neighborhoods.
DeleteJay, that is awesome! And I love that the dead leaves are your idea of decorating. Thanks for the laugh.
DeleteJay, you are by far the King of Halloween! I am always in awe when I read about your generosity.
DeleteSince I've lived in rural areas, I haven't had a trick or treater. Alas, I miss the little goblins, but without sidewalks and a busy road at the foot of our quarter mile driveway, I don't expect any this year either. Still, one must be prepared, so I have a supply of Reese's Peanut Butter Cups in the freezer. Sigh, I'm fully prepared to throw myself on my sword and eat them after Halloween if I have to.
ReplyDeleteYou’re a good sport, Kait! — Pat S
DeleteWe used to have tons of kids coming by and often ran out of candy before we ran out of spooks. But the last few years have been dry. However I see lot of neighborhood houses are decorated, this year. So maybe things are on the upturn.
ReplyDeleteBut we haven’t bought candy and there are no pumpkins on our stoop. I plan to be in bed by dark, deep in the current book, and the doorbell doesn’t work anyway
Since I moved down here, my sister puts out a cauldron of candy on the front lawn and I do see a small group of costumed kids with their parents.
ReplyDeleteWe lived for 29 years in a neighborhood that was virtually made for raising families, so we got plenty of trick-or-treaters each year. (Though not as many as those on the main road through the subdivision -- their traffic was amazing!) Two years ago we moved to a 55+ community and that was the end of our trick-or-treating experiences.
ReplyDeleteOur son in Japan called me last week to ask me to scan and send him photos of himself in various costumes over the years, and also photos of houses decorated for Halloween. He is using them for a presentation to his students about how we observe the holiday here in the United States. I'm looking forward to hearing how that goes!
My granddaughter was born on Halloween. Such a cool birthday.
ReplyDeleteWe used to get a fair number of trick o' treaters at our house, but for the last 12+ years or so we've gone to our grandkids house to pass out candy while they all go out. We go through bags of candy as there are hundreds of kids and families out in droves. Fun all around.
We get no kids and I am quite fine with that. I do remember going out as a kid when the night was dark, cold, foggy, often raining, together with the kids next door. NO PARENTS ANYWHERE! Windows were egged, fire crackers were thrown (illegal – but…). You got some candy – no one took a pillow case, just a grocery bag from our store – candy kisses – there were good and bad, and unfortunately every year too many of the bad because I liked the good molasses-ie ones, maybe some chocolate and if really lucky – chips. Also, apples – no one wanted the apples. It was not candy and heavy to drag around. We were home by 8:30-9 when the next-door neighbour’s father would set off some fire crackers (3-5) – and give us all a sparkler. Wow!
ReplyDeleteOne woman dressed up in the typical costume of over-stuffed pants, a lumber shirt and a kerchief and a pillow case over her head. Like everyone else, you had to guess who she was. When she was finally guessed and my father passed her the candy, she asked if she could have an apple instead – by then we kids were home and anxious to get rid of the darn apples. She wanted to make a pie!
Oh, in modern days (my kids), I did check their candy – more to confiscate the fuzzy peach ones (what kids don’t know, they don’t miss…) My daughter now buys the medley with the fuzzy peach ones to give out. Apparently those are not found in the candy for the kids…
I live in a well-established urban neighborhood (my house was built in 1914) around the corner from a middle school. One would think that I would get trick or treaters. Not really! In recent years when I have been home and bought candy, I've had maybe 5 kids come to the door. I often go to Mike's house, about a mile away. His neighborhood gets the kids, maybe because it's close to affluent Alameda ridge and to one particular house at 51st/Alameda where they go all out with the decorations. I think this year I may go to church for the Organ Spooktacular. They are promising us candy and a good time.
ReplyDeleteOur daughter and her family (Portland, OR) own a 1922 (+ -) that is also a block away from a middle school (Hosford) you could be neighbors if that is the same school. Our favorite coffee shop is Little T. Yum - better than trick o treat candy!
DeleteHi anon! I'm in Roseway, around the corner from Gregory Heights school on NE 72nd. My favorite coffee shop is a couple of blocks from me--Denizens on Sandy.
Deleteoh, these comments are so interesting! Has Halloween really faded away?
ReplyDeleteA resounding no! The parents here, at least, take their kids to the fancier neighborhoods, on the theory that people with more money (supposedly) give out better/more treats. My brother's newer, upscale neighborhood gets droves of kids.
DeleteNo trick or treaters here--rural road, no little kids. Our community has trick or treat from house to house in town, and all the Main Street businesses participate as well. The library has a costumed (dinosaur, witch, whatever she chooses to be) staffer with a large cauldron of rubber ducks to give out every year. There are never any ducks left and I think we gave out 300 last year.
ReplyDeleteToday's kids are self-aware and know who to trust. I suggest giving out at least four full-sized candy bars to each trick-or-treater, skipping the razor blades. That way the kids will know you are super-cool and worthy of their trust. It is ALWAYS worth it to get on the good side with today's youth. Do not be surprised if, in appreciation, they volunteer to mow your lawn, wash your car, or spay your dog. Off season, it's a good idea to slip them a couple of Benjamins every once in a while, or maybe a fifth of Jack Daniels. Remember, children are our future and it is important to stay in their good graces, or they may ensure that you will not have a future. One bit of caution, though: in NO circumstance should you take them to Epstein's island, or introduce them to Amy Acton's stepfather.
ReplyDeleteGood advice! :) :)
DeleteOh, gosh! I'm remembering when "razor blades" were a thing... wasn't it something about apples with embedded razors? I remember having to throw away any candy in my haul that wasn't still wrapped/sealed. Haven't heard about that in quite a while.
DeleteYeah, Hallie, razor blades were basically an urban myth. On the other hand, I remember when I was a kid, one house ran out of candy early on, so they ended up giving out...potatoes; turns out the town did not have enough toilet paper to cover their house as much as the kids wanted.
DeleteYikes, Rhys-the decorations! Jenn, 15 bags of candy! We had never gotten lots of trick-or-treaters, busy street with no sidewalk(!) so several years ago we started going out for dinner and avoiding the whole issue. This year our town put in a lovely sidewalk the whole mile and a half of our street, and replaced the road. It’s amazing how many people and kids now walk the sidewalk. We may just have to have candy this year and see who comes! If there are leftovers my church coffee hour will be the beneficiary.
ReplyDeleteAh, the day-after Halloween candy.
DeleteI just remembered today is a Jungle Reds day! Julia, thirty pounds is amazing - congratulations!
ReplyDeleteI live on a quiet one-block long street that is safe to walk on, so we do get a fair number of kiddos. I love seeing their costumes, but I worry about the princesses who don't know enough to lift their hems as they climb out stone steps to the door.
A few weeks ago I got one bag of peanut M&Ms, and a few packets have already gone missing, that is, enjoyed by me. Need to pick up more. I try to get the ones I enjoy (Mr. Goodbar, yum, and Reeses mini cups). I only eat bad candy once a year and I might as well enjoy the leftovers.
Yum peanut M & Ms!
DeleteJust a Halloween memory…the guy we called “the Halloween father” who faithfully brought his kids trick or treating to my parents’ home for years…until the Halloween he arrived the week before…to say they would not be coming. One of the Halloween daughters was getting married on Halloween, with a Halloween themed wedding. He chatted for a bit, telling my Mother how sorry they were that my
ReplyDeleteDad had died because the kids liked his “scary” boos and groans, that for several years my parents’ house was their only stop (having moved on to home parties) because of how kind and generous my parents were. The last time he came by was in the summer of 2013 as I was cleaning out after mother’s death, a sympathy call. Never knew his name or any of the kids’ names. They were just the best Halloween treats ever. Thanks to all of you for “listening”. Elisabeth
What a lovely memory, Elisabeth. And how wonderful, for that dad to come by and thank your family, then to comfort you. The world needs more of this.
DeleteThere haven’t been Trick-or Treaters in my neighborhood in around thirty years. I miss seeing them! I used to get dressed up in costume to answer the door. I started going to my mom’s house on Halloween so I could see the kids. She always had a lot of kids coming dnd going. After she died I had nowhere to go to see the little ones. A year or so after my brother died, my sister-in-law moved to the same apartment complex as my niece and her family. She goes with them to Trunk or Treat at the grandchildren’s school (it’s a huge event) a couple of days before Halloween, and then has kids coming to the door on Halloween. I’m so jealous!
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At our previous house, we had trick-or-treaters for the first, I don't know, ten years. And it was good. I'd take our kids and The Hubby would hang with the neighbors around a small portable firepit and dole out candy. But as the years progressed, fewer and fewer kids came. Until I finally killed the lights and pretended we weren't home because I didn't want giant bags of candy.
ReplyDeleteAt The Cottage, there are no children and no lights, so no one comes by. There are houses on the other side of the woods, but they don't come to us. However, there is a big community event for businesses on the Diamond. So I will be out in front of the VFW this year, handing out candy. I get to see the cute costumes without having to buy ridiculous amounts of candy. Score!
Saturday night, clear mild weather, no raincoats or ski jackets needed. We'll get little people 6-7 and then a lull until the high school kids come out of the woodwork. The fire engine cruises the neighborhood handing out candy, too. The poodles will try to rip the front door off every time the doorbell rings. Gumbo, our new puppy, is 4 months old. He likes kids but isn't quite sure about the Halloween decorations.
ReplyDeleteTwizzlers have half the calories, and none of the fat, of Nestle's Crunch. Black licorice is even fewer calories. Which is why I rarely eat it, naturally.
ReplyDeleteFor 42 years we have lived in two places, both on roads without streetlights or sidewalks, and with long driveways. Our old neighbor's granddaughter uses to come over before trick or treating for a couple years, but she is now in her upper 30's, and I used to give her full-sized candy bars. Other than her, we have not had a kid come to the door in all that time. As Hank mentioned, ROI. We used to take our own kids to my friend's neighborhood when they were small, and the dads took the kids while we handed out candy. Later, the girls went to a nearby neighborhood with their school pals.
So Halloween is an adult holiday here (party invitations say "children will be turned into toads), and my favorite. We are having our LAST Halloween party on Friday, and I will have the usual charBOOterie board with wrapped candy and other sweets, along with the typical cheese/cracker/chip/dip fare. My daughters are treating for my just-passed 75th birthday, and catering Greek food for the late supper I usually make myself. One year I made black pasta with tomatoes, salmon, and basil. Another year, black and white bowtie pasta with butternut squash and sage in brown butter. Another time I made three different kinds of lasagna. I am so grateful not to have to cook so much this time, just make spooky hardboiled eggs, and some "Brimstone" red velvet cookies with black cocoa "soot".
I have been decorating for weeks, and a friend is coming over this afternoon to help. Every time we have had a party I have added decorations, including a lot of DIY. This year's big project is a crypt hiding a fog machine that should, fingers crossed, billow steam from the mouths of skulls along one side. I should be able to finish that today, it just needs to be glued together and aged with spray paint. My biggest chore is putting in batteries in lit or animated decorations, since I always take them out before I store the decorations away. The biggest chore used to be turning on all the animated stuff and lights, but my oldest daughter has taken on that task the last couple parties, so I could do last minute stuff in the kitchen. Last time it took her over an hour to turn them all on! I have some timers this year that might help.
Wish you could all come. Costumes are de rigeur!
Have a fabulous party, Karen! Glad you're getting switch and catering help.
DeleteYour party sounds like a blast. Our decorations were never automated, and they were probably primitive, but we did put out lit jack-o-lanterns and we'd stuff an old pair of p.j.'s with leaves and stick a head of some sort on top. I had some rubber rats and spiders that I'd put around and some fun ceramic pieces, but not anywhere near as elaborate as you describe.
DeleteI would make one or two types of soup and lots of hors d'oeuvres and desserts. Preparation took days. I miss it, but I don't.
Have a great time this weekend, Karen.
Wow, thanks for the reminder. Just got back from Bouchercon and now I've got to dash down to buy candy. Not for our house. We live on a ten acre parcel with a 1/4 mile drive. No-one and I mean no-one bothers. Last year I was sad because not even my grandkids came (they are now into being with their friends). So my husband and I went downtown where thousands of kids gather and hit the houses along Main Street. Then we went to dinner and I was happy that I got to see all the kids and feel part of the festivities. So what do I do with all the candy I buy? I give it to the people I know who live on Main Street because they spend thousands of dollars dolling out. We'll do the same again this year.
ReplyDeleteGerri, I am sorry we didn’t see each other in Calgary. I did get to see Danielle and Lisa in Long Beach (or Nice or …) which was great fun! — Pat S
DeleteI’m on my way home from Bouchercon today so I’ll have to find some place that’s still selling Halloween tomorrow. I’m still not driving (broken right leg) which means I have to cajole my husband into driving me there. We might buy more because he’s there!
ReplyDeleteOur area has a lot of kids now (it turns over every few years) and we went through a LOT of bags of candy last year. I think we’re going to need to buy LOTS+ of candy this year. — Pat S
Oh how I miss the old trick-or-treating days of yore in my hometown. We live in the country so no little goblins around here but I do go with my nieces in town sometimes to get my fill of adorable little witches and ghosts. It’s the only time I fantasize about living in a neighborhood again-I would go all- out with decorating if I had a neighborhood house. My MIL lives in a maniacal Halloween neighborhood. She used to count how many pieces she would and out and it was in the hundreds before having to turn off her light. Luckily (for the kids), the neighborhood is basically set up like a giant haunted house experience. We sometimes go help out just for the experience. It’s nice to live somewhere that kids still get these glimpses of “normalcy” (?) and wholesome fun experiences.
ReplyDeleteTrick-or-Treat was so much fun as a kid. I lived in a neighborhood that was a circle with three streets, rather a little community in itself, and there were plenty of kids that we all knew who made the rounds. Occasionally, we had some outsiders, a car that would pull into the subdivision and let out a load of kids, but that didn't happen often. We were really a self-contained area, and the drifters were usually kids we all knew from two adjoining streets. So, it was like a big party with your friends. It was safe, too, as we didn't have outside traffic coming through. And, yes, I remember the old costumes with the plastic mask and thin cover outfit. I have a picture of a friend and I before leaving the house, and he was wearing the Casper costume.
ReplyDeleteWe never have trick-or-treaters here where we live. When the kids were little, there were just a few families with kids, and we exchanged candy with those. But it's been years since a little princess or Spiderman have come knocking. I always have a bag of candy or two (hmm, maybe more of an excuse for me to eat some candy) in case someone shows up. I don't expect anyone will. We live on a road that isn't conducive to walking along. It's not a busy road, but it is by our airport, and you just never know if a car will come along. I know that for some time now there has been the trunk-or-treat set-up at many churches, but to me it's just not the same as walking a neighborhood and going door to door. Of course, I know the safety concerns now, and that's important.
Mix between Hank and others. Either no one ever comes to our door for trick or treating or some kids will stop by. I love to dress up for Halloween and I have a range of different costumes to wear.
ReplyDeleteYes indeedy! We will have trick or treaters galore. My husband is with me for Halloween this year and he has big plans. We have candy to give out, also ping pong eyeballs. He bought a 7 ft skeleton to set up outside and will set himself up by it in costume. He'd better be here for future Halloweens because he is setting a big precedent!
ReplyDeleteThough I live across the street from a high school, library, and city park; I don't get trick or treaters. This is an "over 55" complex, with narrow, poorly lit streets and no sidewalks. I did purchase a bag of candy the first I lived here but not any more.
ReplyDeleteWe used to have adult Halloween parties every year, but they were always weekend parties, so not necessarily on Halloween. When we stopped doing them, I didn't miss all of the work it took to put them together.
ReplyDeleteBecause Halloween is my birthday, we now go out for dinner every year, reservations at around 6: or 6:30. Even though it's dark, kids don't really show up in droves. Over the years, even though we are in the suburbs, our street has never been a really busy spot.
Candy: In past years, I've bought candy that we love, one or 2 bags. I hide it after Halloween and Irwin forgets where it is even after he locates it. He'll only take 1 piece at a time, so it isn't that big an issue for either of us. I cannot overindulge my sweet tooth because I have an off switch that usually causes me to go very easy on sweets.
We just joined Costco. (finally) I looked at the giant bags of candy and decided that a giant box of assorted chips was a better option. It's been in the house for 3 weeks and I haven't opened it which is a good sign. My off switch doesn't work on salty food. Anyway, we are going to visit the kids the weekend after Halloween, and we'll bring them the remaining chips. They always have a box like that in their house.