Thursday, March 5, 2026

Agatha evergreen?

 

HALLIE EPHRON: I recently spent several evenings watching new adaptations of Agatha Chrstie novels: AGATHA CHRISTIE'S SEVEN DIALS (on Amazon) and WHY DIDN'T THEY ASK EVANS (on Britbox).

WHY DIDN'T THEY ASK EVANS starts as golf caddy and all around swell guy, Bobby Jones, witnesses a man plummet from a cliff onto rocks below. He gets to the body in time to hear the man say, "Why didn't they ask Evans," but too late to save him.

Bobby becomes embroiled in the investigation (was the man pushed?) with a shove from a plucky, smart, quintessentially Christie-an female sleuth, Lady Frankie Derwent.

It has an amazing cast that includes Hugh Laurie (who also directed it) and a cameo by Emma Thompson (I think she's Lady Frankie's mother).

What happens from there is so complicated that I couldn't begin to explain it, and in fact I was barely follow the lookalike identities, hulking mean goons, precipitous will, fancy estate with nearby mysterious mental hospital... I just went along for the smart talk and colorful ride... and waiting for Emma Thompson to reappear.

SEVEN DIALS is a locked room (with a fireplace mantle and seven... or was it six?) ticking alarm clocks that go off to tip the house residents that there's been a murder. Also featuring a plucky, upper crust, female sleuth (Lady Eileen "Bundle" Brent). Supporting cast includes Helena Bonham Carter as (I think) Bundle's mother.
I enjoyed both series, but the plot lines are SO COMPLICATED I don't even know for certain who did it for either series or why. Honestly the main thing I remember are the clocks of one and the reveal of who Evans is in the other.

Whodunnit? Not so much.

Which leads me to my question: Why are Agatha Christie stories so evergreen? Is there a "formula" and does it work today?

RHS BOWEN: Hallie, I’ve watched all of the recent Agatha Christie TV movies. They alter the plot and make them much more suspenseful and violent than the books. I really loved the original Why Didn’t the Ask Evans?” when I first read it but reading it again makes it annoyingly outdated. Her bright young things protagonists take stupid risks, get into households containing murderers, sneak into clubs full of people who would easily kill them. I suppose the world was a safer place in those days.

I remember reading Enid Blyton’s Famous Five when I was a child. I loved the books but again so unrealistic. They trap the smugglers in their cave and then men say “We’re sorry” instead of shooting the kids.

I’ve been quite a student of Agatha. I’ve written a couple of learned articles for books on her and even a piece for the Washington Post on Miss Marple. I think this is where she is at her best. The simple village murder, gentle sleuth, clever clues. All make reassuring and predictable reading. We know good will prevail. The bad guys will get caught. When she tries to move to a bigger canvas… more thrilleresque, she is no longer believable. Read the book of the Seven Dials. It’s quite good, apart from the risks they take.

DEBORAH CROMBIE: I watched an episode or two of WHY DIDN'T THEY ASK EVANS when it was first released, and I remember I thought the protagonists were cute. But then it got really confusing and unbelievable and I gave up. I think for the Christie adaptations I much prefer the Poirot/Marple series format as it seems they stayed a bit closer to the original books.

JULIA SPENCER-FLEMING: Oh, I have SO many opinions. First off, one of the things I love about all the various screen adaptations is getting more depth to the characters.

Dame Agatha was wonderful with her series sleuths (and no, I don’t need to find out about Miss Marples’ beau who died in WWI or Poirot’s dead lady friend who ALSO dies in WWI. People can just be single, folks.) But she’s not great at fleshing out the one-off characters, and those people really come alive with skill performers.

I also love the beautiful settings and costumes of the BBC adaptations of the past decade or so. They spend a lot of money and it shows, and they’re accurate with their period details. (Hallie, I turned off SEVEN DIALS after the first episode because the hair and clothing was such an inaccurate muddle!)

But some of the most faithful adaptations are the ones from the 40s through the 80s. Yes, the hair and clothing is usually wrong, but I don’t expect it to be; that wasn’t really a thing back then. Watch the 1981 THE SEVEN DIALS MYSTERY. I loved it.

JENN McKINLAY: Chiming in as the person who hasn’t watched nor attempted to watch any Christie adaptations–cynical me thinks they’re evergreen because Christie is evergreen as in “bankable”. I think the Christie connection means potential money maker to the studios but I could be wrong. I don’t think so but…

HANK PHILLIPPI RYAN: Oh, my goodness, thank you. I was beginning to doubt my brain cells. I tried to watch EVANS, really I did, and after about 10 minutes, I had NO idea what was going on. None. And I kept thinking, yeah, why didn't they ask him? Woulda been so much easier. I gave up.

As for Seven Dials that was RIDICULOUS because ((spoiler)) but I watched every bit anyway because Bundle is a wonderful name and she was fun to see. And the clothes.

And I think they are evergreen because on the page, at least, they are truly entertaining. And the dialogue is so wry. And from time to time, talking to you, Orient Express and Roger Ackroyd, they are truly spectacular mysteries.

It's odd, though, thinking about it now, because shouldn't they be EASIER to understand on TV? But sometimes, they aren't.

HALLIE: So what do you all think. There really is something special about Dame Agatha’s novels that continues to make them fodder for dramatization. But what is it??

53 comments:

  1. I'm not certain, Hallie, but it seems to me that the specialness of Dame Agatha's novels gets lost in the studio attempts to make them be something more [usually complicated] than the original novels.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. That's entirely possible... I need to go back and reread and watch one in tandem. And, of course, she *invented* some of the plot twists that have turned into tropes

      Delete
    2. Joan, agreed!

      Delete
  2. I'm with Jenn - haven't watched them, except the recentish Orient Express movie. But now I want to check out Seven Dials.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. I love the casting, and I"d watch those actors do just about anything. It's always a pleasure. And I'll bet a lot of the smart dialogue is from the original. It has that distinctive feel.

      Delete
  3. I watched them both. Why Didn't They Ask Evans was quite a muddle. Seven Dials was a bit better, I thought. I found I could overlook its failings and still enjoy it. I wholeheartedly agree with Deborah that the Marple/Poirot series format did a better job with the material. Though I also have a particular soft spot for staged versions of And Then There Were None. (I feel I have seen many.)

    I think her work is evergreen because of the structure and virtual guarantee that the mystery will be solved, and because she did tend to create an interesting, likeable protagonist.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Totally agree: likeable protagonist. AND likeable foil/sidekick.

      Delete
  4. A few years ago, we did watch EVANS and the actors and costumes were terrific. It was confusing, so improbable as to be silly and it was silly. Then I stopped watching TV. Almost completely. In favor of reading books instead. You are welcome.

    ReplyDelete
  5. I've enjoyed the Knives Out films which certainly owe a debt to Dame Agatha. But then I could watch Daniel Craig and Jamie Lee Curtis brushing their teeth.

    ReplyDelete
  6. A novel is a novel. A movie/TV show is a movie/TV show. I just don’t like any movie/TV shows as adaptations of novels. That’s why I shudder when it is mentioned that any of the Reds book may be adapted to TV or movies. Two different media make for two different stories and with very few exceptions the characters never look like my vision of them from reading. Elisabeth

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Anon, your comment has me thinking about the current controversy surrounding the most recent adaptation of Wuthering Heights and its precursors... and I love Little Women and can't bear any of the movies. Anne of Green Gables is another one that's been done well and poorly (Anne was homely! It's part of what shapes her moodiness!)

      Delete
    2. I haven't followed the controversy surrounding Wuthering Heights, but loved the book. I read it as a teenager growing up in a southern Cal beach community. It was so foreign to me - a love story centered on intense love, revenge, family drama set on the Yorkshire Moors. Dark and brooding love, perfect for a happy go lucky teen who didn't even have a boyfriend.

      Delete
  7. Modern adaptations have added quite a bit to the stories - I haven't read Seven Dials in a long time and I have a copy coming to see what changed. This is what (mostly) turned me off the Kenneth Branagh versions. Too much. Way too much. That said, I enjoyed both the new Seven Dials and Why Didn't They Ask Evans on their own merits.

    As for those 80s adaptations - yes they were mostly faithful (sorry, can't stand the Suchet versions of Orient Express or Appointment with Death because of the plot alterations - although he, of course, was excellent). But many of the shorter Poirot episodes were short stories or, I believe, not even Christie stories. And there is at least one Marple that has her dancing around with a sword. Um... no.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Um, "dancing around with a sword?" MISS MARPLE?? Which one was that???

      Delete
  8. No one ever mentions my favorite Christie sleuths, Tommy & Tuppence. So lighthearted, and the inspiration for so many other married crime -solving couples. Nick & Nora Charles, Harriet Vane and Lord Peter Wimsey: you can see the fingerprint of the Beresfords in both of them.

    There is a charming British series with Tommy & Tuppence, but I have only seen one episode, maybe two. I'd forgotten that Tommy was with British Intelligence, which makes for an interesting aspect of their activities.

    I did start watching Why Didn't They Ask Evans, but also quickly got caught up in the weeds. It requires strict attention, I guess, but if even professional crime writers were flummoxed, maybe I don't feel so bad about getting so lost. Seven Dials looks like a romp, and the cast list is a dream, so maybe I'll just go with it and have fun.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. I am so glad you mentioned Tommy & Tuppence Karen. I love them as a couple and yes, I didn't think about it, but, they must have been a inspiration for Harriet & Peter (As My Wimsey Takes Me - family crest), and Nick & Nora. They were all so British.

      Although not a mystery, I also love to read Wodehouse's Wooster & Jeeves for the reason they are so British during the 20's onward. Wodehouse's Jeeves must have been his clever way of making those in service (like Jeeves) to the upper crust the one's who are in many cases smarter. The plots and humor are brilliant.

      I've read most of the Miss Marple series over the years. And there is something about the plots that appeal to me. It is like reading a chess game - with everything checkmated in the end. My favorite is Murder at the Vicarage.

      Delete
    2. I confess I cannot watch Nick & Nora - alcoholic main characters? No no no...

      Delete
    3. Yes, a big no for me. Nick and Nora start drinking early in the morning and remain "fashionably" drinking throughout the day and evening, being charming and witty with no ill effects from their alcoholism.

      Delete
    4. Disagree! Why do you assume they're alcoholics?

      Delete
    5. I get it, Hallie. Same reason I detest almost every Hemingway I've read. On every other page a character is having yet another drink.

      Delete
    6. I adore Tommy and Tuppence! They have always been my favorite Christie sleuths. I wish she'd written more of them.

      Delete
    7. It's not just assumed that Nick and Nora were/are alcoholics (From The Thin Man) they were intentionally portrayed as heavy drinkers. Supposedly Dashiell Hammett was an alcoholic himself and based Nick & Nora on himself and his partner.

      Delete
    8. I love Tommy and Tuppence too. Such great characters!!

      Delete
  9. I ordered the new edition of Seven Dials from the library. Val McDermid writes in her introduction, "It isn't a thriller. It's a pastiche of a thriller, an antodote to the gung-ho-chest-beating of the boys. It's wry, it's got its tongue planted firmly in its cheek and it subverts the whole genre it appears to be a part of, not at least because...it also delivers cleverly dovetailed plotting with a typical Christie flourish at the end."

    McDermid also salutes Christie's humor and sleight of hand maneuvering of her reader's expections to create clever narrative tricks.

    I liked the recent Netflix adaptation of Seven Dials, in particular Martin Freeman's role as Superintendent Battle, but I'm reading the book to find out what really happened.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. I'm a huge Martin Freeman fan, too. Best Watson ever...

      Delete
    2. Huge Martin Freeman fan, here, too, and agree he is the best Watson ever.

      Delete
  10. Hank Phillippi RyanMarch 5, 2026 at 9:23 AM

    Margaret, that’s so interesting to hear what Val McDermid said. You can really picture Agatha Christie writing that way, can’t you? Smiling? And knowing she was skewering society a bit. Kind of Edith Wharton with murder. Love that!

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. "Edith Wharton with murder" - could be a great blurb, if Dame Agatha needed one.

      Delete
  11. What a brilliant comment from Val McDermid. Wow, did she miss her calling as a writer? Foprtunately she is an actress.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Val McDermid? She is a famous crime writer.

      Delete
    2. Oh dear!! My face is bright red! Yes, you are correct, of course. For some reason Frances McDormand the actress popped into my mind. I really shouldn't even think of making comments before coffee!!

      Delete
    3. You're forgiven, Anon! And thank you for the chuckle from imagining Val McDermid suddenly discovering she was an actress. I'm sure she could manage it, if she wanted, though.

      Delete
    4. Yes, or Frances McDormand writing British mysteries.

      Delete
  12. From Celia: thanks Hallie, an inspired question and lots of great comments. However I haven't watched either movie and if I ever read those books it was way back in my teens a long time ago. I lost interest in Christie's books as I moved on to Sayers, Allingham, Marsh and the other greats of the Golden Age.
    In fact I can't remember a single one of Christie's plots that has stayed with me. Whereas I have some very clear memories of Sayers and Allinghams stories.
    Of course in terms of statistics the Dame beats everyone. I went to Wiki to check some of her facts. I particularly recommend reading her legacy entry. She was very smart or had a gifted tax lawyer. It's obvious her family will be comfortable for several generations. I found it fascinating, so much more interesting than her books.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Thanks for the recommendation. I was wondering if her titles are in the public domain.

      Delete
  13. I'm with Jenn, especially after I watched the adaptation with Kenneth Branaugh in Murder on the Orient Express. Never again. I thought it was a caricature ? of Agatha Christie's Poirot.

    The only adaptations, which I loved, are the BBC adaptations of the Poirot and Marple stories BEFORE they started copying the American way of adapting stories for the screen. I have noticed that recent adaptations often are very different from the books.

    When I started reading Agatha Christie mysteries at the age of 12, they were very hard to read because there were no pictures in the book. As an adult, they are very easy to read now.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. DIANA! I found the answer to the question you asked yesterday, whether there's closed captioning for Writers Digest's Mystery & Thriller Virtual Conference and the answer is YES... you have to turn it on on your end but people say it works just fine.

      And I also love the BBC early adaptations of Poirot and Marple. But the even earlier Marple (with Margaret Rutherford) is terrible.

      Delete
    2. Yay! Thank you. And I remember Agatha Christie herself did not approve of the casting of Margaret Rutherford as miss marple.

      Delete
    3. Thus was me, Diana

      Delete
  14. Agatha adaptions are so dangerous! The books are so well-known and well-loved, a producer/director has to be pretty brave or pretty egotistical (I'm thinking of you, Kenneth!). That said, I think the Peter Ustinov "Death on the Nile" and "Evil Under the Sun" are absolutely fabulous! And don't get me started on how much I like the 1957 "Witness for the Prosecution!"

    Regarding "Seven Dials" overall, I'm not a big fan of mysteries that feature secret organizations, good or evil; just not my thing!

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Maybe I'm too literal minded but I couldn't get past how Peter Ustinov was NOT like the Poirot that Christie describes. Maybe he could have played Poirot's scruffy older uncle...?

      Delete
    2. Haha! You're right about Ustinov! But they are really good movies!

      Delete
    3. Witness for the Prosecution is so well done. I was completely surprised at the ending. Even Perry Mason couldn't have guessed the ending.

      Delete
    4. Totally agree! Great movie. Brilliant twist at the end.

      Delete
  15. I love the period the stories are portraying. Realistic? No way. A man is at the bottom of a cliff and dying, and his last words are "why didn't they ask Evans?" That's just dumb.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Hahaha! Good point, but then again if he had said, "Tom (or whoever) is the murderer." Then the story's over on page one! I guess they could have hunted down Evans and asked him.

      Delete
    2. Ha ha ha ha! Excellent point, Pat!

      Delete
  16. To me, it's all about atmosphere and that feeling you get that you're sitting (possibly in the library) in a wing-backed chair with a cup of tea on the highly polished, fine wood table beside you, and the story is playing out before you with an occasional creak from the floorboards. That's the feeling I got or get when reading the books, and it should carry over to the movies for me. I love the older period of time because I can escape the present period of time.

    I haven't watched all the "contemporary" Agatha Christie movies, but I plan on watching more. It's just that I have to find a time when my husband doesn't want to watch something with me. He has no appetite for the Christie movies, to British and too dry. I've seen "Then There Were None," "Murder on the Orient Express," and "The ABC Murders." I enjoyed all three of those. We'll see about the rest. I liked quite a few of the adaptations from the 1980s, but I admit I'm much more cognizant and interested in the cast of the movies now. I know I'll watch "Why Didn't They Ask Evans?" to see Emma Thompson.

    Speaking of Emma Thompson, if you haven't watched "Down Cemetery Road" yet, I hope you do. I picked it out when my husband and I were looking for something to watch last week, mainly because of Emma Thompson. My husband was skeptical at first, but we both ended up really enjoying it. It also has Ruth Wilson in it, a bonus for me, and it's based on the novel by Mick Herron. I look for a second season of it on Apple TV. Now, I need to watch Emma's latest, Dead of Winter, streaming on Hulu, HBO Max, and Amazon channels. This is a fictionalized account based on true events. There was a documentary series (2019-2020) about this event.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Speaking of Emma Thompson - my hub and I were watching All Creatures Great and Small on PBS when who should appear looking much younger than her real years but EMMA THOMPSON! Wait, what is going on. Turns out it was Emma Thompson's daughter GAIA WISE. She looks so much like her mother it is freaky.

      Delete
    2. Gaia Wise... writing that down. I'll be looking for her. I'm a huge Emma Thompson fan.

      Delete
  17. I've never been a big Christie fan. In my young teens I read And Then There Were None, The Murder of Roger Ackroyd, and Murder on the Orient Express and enjoyed them, but as an Anonymous above also said, once I moved on the Sayers and Tey, whom I still read over and over, plus Michael Gilbert, Dick Francis, Robert Parker, Reginald Hill, Ruth Rendell, and others, I never went back to Christie. As a dedicated mystery reader and writer, I feel guilty about it, but that's how it is.

    ReplyDelete
  18. My "gateway" drug for mystery fiction was P. D. James's AN UNSUITABLE JOB FOR A WOMAN... I need to read it again and see if it still holds up.

    ReplyDelete