Showing posts with label The Crown. Show all posts
Showing posts with label The Crown. Show all posts

Tuesday, March 2, 2021

RHYS on Getting it Right

 RHYS BOWEN:  I have just finished teaching an online class on writing historical mysteries to the Sisters in Crime Guppy group. One of the things I've stressed is the need to GET IT RIGHT. Gone are the days when your train could arrive at London Station and your characters could claim to be British by saying "Pip pip, cheerio" to each other. Everybody is savvy these days. The internet is there to check everything and if you get one small thing wrong you will know it.

Sometimes the writer feels like shouting "IT'S FICTION, DAMMIT!" but the point is that if you choose a real place and time for your story, the everything has to be right about that place or you have jerked some readers out of the story.  I read a book by a well-known author (who shall remain nameless) in which she got several things howlingly wrong...incorrect procedure and form of address at the English court, the wrong island, and I was so angry I couldn't finish the book.

I was asked to blurb another book in which a train from Yorkshire came into Victoria Station in London. That one got thrown across the room.  How can authors get such basic things wrong?

It should be easy to do the big research--when I wrote the Molly Murphy book, For the Love of Mike, I read the senate depositions after the Triangle Fire so that every abuse that happened to a girl in my book had happened to a real girl. Not necessary but really satisfying for the author and a way of making the reader feel that everything you are telling her is real and valid.

It's not always easy to avoid anachronisms, however. (Isn't that a lovely word. Anachronism. Say it out loud. Most satisfying). When I was writing my first Molly book my copy editor queried the use of Streetlight. And she was right. Not in use at that time. They were still lamps--lit by lamp lighters in many places, and even when electricity had been introduced they were still referred to as street lamps.

A very small thing and one that wouldn't upset anybody but it's satisfying to get it right.  I remember researching once with a friendly librarian when elastic came into use in women's undergarments. I wanted t know how easily my hero could rip them off? Such are the small things that obsess a historical writer.

Also in the Molly books I found that the word Car park was not in usage before 1920. Also Freud was just in the process of formulating his theories so none of the characters could be stressed, need to relax, be obsessed... such concepts didn't exist.

I am very conscious of anachronisms recently because I have watched Bridgerton and The Crown.


Bridgerton--OMG, anachronism laden, and I don't mean the choice of actors of various ethnicity. I was unable to recognize one thing about what is supposed to be London. It's the Georgian period. When I lived on Queen Anne Street when I worked for the BBC my house was Georgian. Plenty of Georgian buildings to use, but I had no idea where we were in any of the scenes. Was this perhaps because it was meant to be a fantasy world? Maybe.

But small things annoyed me too: court etiquette. Three daughters are presented at once to Queen Charlotte. The mother remarks she can try again next year. I'm sorry but unless things have changed significantly you are presented once, at eighteen. I rather think that court etiquette is written in stone.


And then there is the Crown: You should see the buzz it created in UK with all the little things they got wrong: the scenes at Balmoral when they go out stalking the stag. Those who know about these things say you'd never shoot at an animal without a backdrop (ie, a hillside behind it) so that there is no risk of the bullet going through the animal and striking someone beyond.  You'd never shoot without wearing ear muffs to deaden the sound.  I can't believe they didn't offer Mrs. Thatcher a pair of boots, not let her tramp through the heather in high heels. Nor can I believe she was clueless enough not to find out in advance what the dress code might be with her hosts! If I were going to spend some time in the wilds of Scotland I'd definitely take warm trousers and a rain jacket and stout shoes, wouldn't you?  It's easy enough to find pictures of the royals and see what they wear--of course, they wear kilts and she couldn't...

When Prince Charles is fly fishing apparently he's using the wrong type of rod for the stream. Again something that wouldn't matter to you or me but would matter to a fisherman.

I also find when I am writing that sometimes my problem is the opposite. I know something is true for the period but I can't include it because my readers would never accept it. It might be a form of slang that just sounds wrong or it might be a photo that I have of Macy's food counter in 1900. The center of the display is a stack of cans of chili con carne.  If I wrote that Molly went home and opened a can of chili I would be besieged with letters telling me how stupid I was.

So I'm interested to know how much it bothers you if you find a mistake in a book you are reading?

Do you continue to read or do you, like me, throw it across the room? And writers--have you ever made an error you came to regret? (confession time--I put Claridges Hotel on the wrong street in a Royal Spyness book. Unforgivable as our next door neighbor was the night manager of Claridges!)

Monday, February 3, 2020

Do you Binge?

RHYS BOWEN: A couple of weeks ago we decided to watch the third season of The Crown. Actually we binge-watched it. Several episodes a night until I was falling asleep. In a way it was satisfying to see it one episode after another as one could follow the continuity of the story. But then I regretted it was over so quickly. I remember how much I enjoyed Downton Abbey when it first came out, waiting impatiently for the next Sunday night to find out what happened next and when Mary would finally get together with Matthew. And then the awful wait for another whole year and the next season of the story.
                Actually I loved the anticipation. It gave us something to talk about, to discuss with friends. Who would Mary pick? Did I think this suitor was a good choice? What would happen to Edith?  I’m not quite so invested in Queen Victoria as I know what happened to her in real life, but I’m still looking forward to the continuation of her story, unfolding week by week. (Anyone know when this might happen?)
                In England most series come out with a six week run, even the sit-coms, and then you have to wait until the next year to continue. This is annoying but…
                I love anticipation, don’t you? Do you remember counting off the days until your birthday or the end of school as a child? Even now I find myself saying “Three weeks until Christmas” or lying in bed planning our next vacation.
                So I’m interested to know what the rest of you think? Do you binge-watch? Binge-read? I get letters from fans who say “I’ve just discovered your series and I have read non-stop until I’m up to date.”  I suppose when you look at it, reading a series is just like one long extended novel so it might make sense to read it through without stopping. But as a reader I would love the tension of not knowing whether Georgie and Darcy would finally get together.
                So confession time: any binge-watchers/binge-readers out there?


HANK PHILLIPPI RYAN:  I am so used to binge-watching now that I’m baffled when I have to wait for the next episode. We completely binged The Crown, and  Unbelievable, and The Jury, and all kinds of other things that I forget. So we started watching The Outsider, and it’s fabulous, but--oh! I have to wait? So I can see both methods of watching--I do love to be able to see it all, but then, as you say,  it’s so over.


And psychologically? I am not so hot on anticipation, I have to say. Just show me. Just tell me. Just do it. Let’s just--go. But that’s me.


Binge reading? Huh. I’d think I’ve ever done that. I think it would be--diminishing returns.


LUCY BURDETTE: this is a great question Rhys! We are just home from a fabulous trip to Africa--all was great fun except for the actual getting there and getting home part. Luckily on the way home (one of the flights was 16 hours!), the airline offered Season 2 of BIG LITTLE LIES. I had already watched this and loved it so much that I was happy to watch again. I made it through all 7 episodes and this helped the time go by so well! I was finishing the denouement as our wheels touched down. (By the way, Reese Witherspoon is an absolute genius. How can one woman be such a brilliant actor and writer and incredible supporter of books, authors, and reading??)


Usually with TV shows though, we like to spread things out. And this is true for book series for me too. I’ve been slowly making my way through VERA by Ann Cleeves, and I should finish the last installment, THE MOTH CATCHER, by the time her newest book comes out next fall.


JENN McKINLAY: Binge reader/watcher here. I am a binger. When I find an author I enjoy, I double back and read everything they’ve written, especially if it’s a series. I like to do a complete immersion into the author’s world. I read the first five Harry Potter books (I came late to the party) in three weeks. Usually, I generally only read for pleasure at night, so it takes me a while to finish a big series. I am the same with TV. I will gobble up a show (curse you, Netflix, for looping one episode after another) until I run out and am left bereft. Shows that have hooked me in lately are Dead To Me (so good) and Fleabag (fabulous).
     Weirdly, I do love a cliff hanger and if a show or a book ends on a wicked twist and I have to wait, I am thrilled with the anticipation.


DEBORAH CROMBIE: I actually like a bit of both. It’s certainly nice to be able to stream a whole series, but when we were watching The Mandalorian, looking forward to Friday nights and a new episode was really fun.  Now we are doing that with the new Star Trek Picard (which I’m not sure I’m following at all…) When Rick and I are watching something together it’s usually just on weekends, so it can take us several weeks to get through a series. If it’s just me, however, I tend to get distracted. Too many choices!! I’m still trying to finish the third season of Broadchurch, and have watched Vera totally sporadically. (Lucy, did you know there is a new series out?)


Series books I do binge read, and I think that is one of the biggest treats of reading. But then you eventually get to the end and have to wait for a new book to come out!


JULIA SPENCER-FLEMING: Can I, like Debs, say both? The girls and I watched the entire run of The Mandalorian in one loooong evening, and I don’t think I could have survived seeing what happened next if I had to wait for a week. On the other hand, I love the painfully delicious sensation of waiting for the next book in a beloved series to come out, and like Jenn, I LOVE cliffhangers (this will not be a surprise to anyone who reads my own novels.)


Because we have a history of buying CD collections of or streaming older TV shows, I’ve noticed that the structure and pacing of the stories seem to have changed to fit the binging era. If I watch all however-many episodes of Russian Doll in one night, it doesn’t feel as if the story has been rushed. But, as an example, when I shared my beloved Babylon 5 with the kids, seeing one episode after another made it feel like all the events and character changes were on fast forward. I think B5 is a good example because it was the first TV show that I know of to have a genuinely novelistic approach to a season - unlike everything that came before, which was pretty much strictly episodic. But it was written for viewers who would have a week between chapters, as it were, and so the actual time passing helped fix the time unfolding in the show. We had to go back to watching it with a few days between episodes to make it feel right.

RHYS: So who out there likes to binge? Who likes the anticipation of waiting and spreading the satisfaction?

Friday, January 26, 2018

What's On? Jungle Reds Bingewatch

HANK PHILLIPPI RYAN:  Of course we watched THE CROWN. And I was riveted, The personalities the history. The clothes. The lipstick. Phillip the pill. Margaret the wacko spoiled one, Elizabeth trying so hard but she can't help it, she's got to be the Queen.  And I was doubly riveted because it felt like I was learning history at the same time.

Turns out, sadly, I wasn't, necessarily. So many articles are now revealing so many things that did happen at all the way they are portrayed in the series. Which is really too bad, but I don't want to list them because I don't want to spoil--if it would be spoiling--the show if you haven't seen it. I mean, it's STILL good, but you kind of have to google as you go. (Well, Rhys doesn't have to.)

But on to happier TV stuff.  Well, not exactly happier. We just finished watching Ozark, which is so incredibly suspenseful I watched the first episode curled up in a chair, saying to Jonathan--I CAN'T WATCH THIS!! And then proceeded to to be glued.

We are also--and I hesitate to reveal how behind we are--watching Breaking Bad. So now you are laughing, because that's pitiful. But wow. It's incredible. (I know, I know, I don't have to tell you.) And Mrs. Maisel, hilarious.  And my private secret treat: Project Runway. Though it's better with Tim and Heidi.

So, Reds are readers, catch us up. Point us in the right direction. What are you watching?  

HALLIE EPHRON: J'adore The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel. The first episode is so brilliant, and it just keeps going to a fantastic finish. Can you even imagine trying to break out as a stand-up comedian? 

I'm catching up on Vera which happily I missed. And just watched the last episode of The Detectorists and looking forward to the new season about to drop. Sadly, apparently the last. Love those sad sacks so much.

My guilty pleasure is watching (again) the episodes of Sherlock. I saw them but can't believe how much I forgot. I wonder if there will be any more. And can't wait for the new episodes of GLOW. Who knew I'd love ladies' wrestling.

DEBORAH CROMBIE: Hallie, I rewatch Sherlock, too. They are just so brilliant!!! And I love The Detectorists but am way behind. Where are you getting that?

JENN McKINLAY: I just started watching Game of Thrones a few months ago. Ack! I know! WAY behind but I had to work up to it. And now, I am desperately crushing on Jon Snow. Also I am addicted to YOUNGER, which is the greatest show ever!!! (A forty year old woman can't get a job in publishing because she's been out of the loop, raising her daughter in the suburbs, so she pretends she's 26 and gets hired - SO GOOD)! And now I am going to have to watch The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel because it sounds wonderful and I trust you and Hallie implicitly! 

INGRID THOFT: "Mrs. Maisel" is definitely going on the list, but I can’t do “Game of Thrones", which is too complicated and too violent.  I think I was the only person on the planet who couldn’t get into “Breaking Bad,” and that’s worse than being late to the show, Hank!  I just watched “Loch Ness” on Acorn, which I enjoyed, and I’m planning on tuning in to “The Assassination of Gianni Versace: American Crime Story.”  I’m caught up on “This is Us,” one of the few network shows I watch, and I’m definitely in love with Sterling K. Brown.  There.  I admitted it.

DEBS: Ingrid, who isn't in love with Sterling K. Brown??? 

HANK: Me. No This Is Us for me. Too sad.  And Ingrid,  it took me two attempts to like Breaking Bad. But when I feel, I fell hard.

JULIA SPENCER-FLEMING: Jenn, I've been thinking about watching YOUNGER, and you've sold me on it. Besides, who doesn't like to fantasize she could pass as fourteen years younger? Like everyone else, I've got "Mrs. Maisel" on my list, and I'm also excited about the Philip K. Dick-based series ELECTRIC DREAMS which just went up on Amazon.

Youngest and I both adore THE GOOD PLACE, and if you haven't been watching, you need to see it right now. Original and oh-so-funny. I've also been enjoying THE EXPANSE, from the SyFy (sic) network. In fact, I liked the first season so much I've put the second on hold while I finish the novels upon which the series is based. Coming up later this year, Harlan Coben has a series titles SAFE that sounds great, and very Coben-esque: a thriller set in a gated suburban community. And of course, I will keep on watching anything from HGTV. Drew and Linda's Nursery Addition? Yes. Rehab Addict Rehab? Sure. Flip or Flop Poughkeepsie? Bring it on.

LUCY BURDETTE: I barely watch TV so I'm not much use. John is the resident expert. But even he quit on BREAKING BAD, because it was too scary. (His golf buddies tease him relentlessly about admitting this.) We are in the second season of THE CROWN, though I think the first was more compelling. Now will have to watch Mrs. Maisel!

RHYS BOWEN: I regret to say I'm with Lucy. I don't watch much TV. I devoured the Crown. I'm now into the second season of Victoria although I don't find that as compelling for some reason. I am a sports nut and currently watching the Australian Open tennis from which I will go straight into the Winter Olympics. I do confess to a secret pleasure in Project Runway and the Amazing Race. And I must watch Mrs. Maisel. I've heard so much about it.

DEBORAH CROMBIE: Can I even admit that I haven't watched The Crown? Ack! I will, I will. I just haven't got to it yet. Rick watched Breaking Bad but I just couldn't work up to it. We did the first season of Game of Thrones, and now I'm wondering if we should pick it up where we left off. What say, GOT fans?

HANK: Yes, yes! I even love hearing the Game of Thrones theme music. Don't stop!

DEBS: I've just started re-watching Vera from the beginning, because it is so good, and I've missed episodes or parts of episodes here and there. And I've only seen Shetland intermittently, so would like to watch all those from the beginning, too. And I am totally in love with an old series from the mid-nineties that's been running on my PBS station, called Pie in the Sky, starring Richard Griffiths as a police detective turned chef. I adore it! Haven't missed an episode since I discovered it.

Our big couple thing lately has been Star Trek: Discovery, the new series that takes place time-wise ten years before the original Star Trek. It is SO good!!! Sonequa Martin-Green, who plays Michael Burnham, the first black female first officer in the Star Trek canon, is just riveting. And Jason Issacs as the captain? What's not to like?

HANK: SO, reds and readers, point us in the right direction! Are you liking The Alienist? (SUCH a great book! But the TV show? Hmmm.)  What are you watching?