Tuesday, August 15, 2023

Julia and Me by @LeslieKarst



LUCY BURDETTE: It's always a pleasure to welcome Leslie Karst back to the blog--it's timely for me as I'm just reading her new book! Welcome Leslie!

LESLIE KARST: In my just-released Sally Solari mystery, A Sense for Murder, the dining room manager of a restaurant/culinary bookstore is found murdered on the night of a benefit dinner, and the primary clue is the simultaneous theft of a boxed set of signed first editions of Julia Child’s Mastering the Art of French Cooking.

It’s no accident that I decided to use this iconic cookbook as a major piece of the story, for Julia Child has long held a special place in my heart.





Cardboard cut-out of Julia at the Smithsonian Institution

I first encountered the French Chef back in the late ’60s, when she was a regular part of the PBS lineup on TV. I’d join my mother upstairs on my parents’ bed to watch the show, and as Mom took notes on a pad of paper, scribbling down recipes for use at future dinner parties, I’d gape open-mouthed at this big, boisterous, woman slapping butter on chickens as she laughed and recounted tales of her days in Paris.

Years later, I finally bought a copy of Mastering the Art of French Cooking and started trying out the recipes for myself. (Note: Yes, her multi-page method for making coq au vin is rather time-consuming, but preparing the mushrooms and onions separately to add at the end—thereby allowing them to retain their own special flavors—makes for a truly remarkable dish.)

I credit Julia with inspiring me to go to cooking school, for it was shortly after I purchased MtAoFC when—bored with my job as a research and appellate attorney—I was searching for something to add a little spice to my life and hit upon the idea of enrolling my my local community college’s culinary arts program. Enraptured with the classes I’d started taking at night, I’d regale the attorneys at my law firm the next morning with stories of carving eye-dazzling garnishes out of carrots and radishes, deboning and stuffing chickens, and learning to prepare all five of the French “mother” sauces.





Julia Child’s diploma from Le Cordon Bleu cooking school

One of those attorneys happened to be a kindred cooking spirit, and as I was waxing poetic one day about the sauce bearnaise I’d made the night before, he asked if I was a fan of Julia Chid.

“Are you kidding?” I said. “I absolutely adore her!”

A broad cat-who-ate-the-canary smile spread across his face. “Would you like to meet her?”

It turned out that Julia Child was going to be the guest of honor at some food-related event down in Carmel Valley, where my fellow attorney lived and apparently had “connections,” and he’d been asked to be her host for the day—to pick her up at the airport, take her to lunch, and then escort her to and from the event. “You can come along with me as co-host, if you’d like,” he offered.

Needless to say, I jumped at the chance.

Alas, however, it was not to be. Just days before what would surely have been one of the most exciting experiences of my life, Julia fell and broke her arm, and had to cancel her trip up north from Santa Barbara.

But, perhaps because of all the fantasizing I engaged in leading up the the big day, part of me feels like it actually did happen—that I did indeed get to spend a full day with the French Chef, talking about food and Paris and how very much I loved her detailed recipe for coq au vin.

A few years back, I flew to Washington, D.C., a day early for the Malice Domestic mystery writers convention, so I could pay my respects to Julia by visiting her Cambridge, Mass. kitchen, which had been deconstructed and moved to the Smithsonian Museum. Staring through the plexi-glass window into the exhibit, I smiled as I imagined Julia standing at that custom-made counter (built higher than normal to fit her tall frame) whipping up egg whites for a soufflé in one the copper bowls hanging from that very same peg-board.





yours truly at the Smithsonian


How fitting, that the woman who almost single-handedly brought French cuisine to the American masses, should now have her own exhibit at “America’s museum,” don’t you think?

Readers: For a chance to win a signed copy of my new book, A Sense for Murder, answer this question in the comments below: Are any of you fans of Julia Child, or of other cookbook authors or TV chefs?



About A Sense for Murder:

It’s the height of the tourist season in Santa Cruz, California, and Sally Solari has her hands full, both juggling crowds of hungry diners at her French-Polynesian restaurant Gauguin, as well as appeasing her father, who’s distressed at the number of homeless people camped out in front of Solari’s, the family’s Italian seafood restaurant out on the historic fisherman's wharf.

Nevertheless, when Sally gets the opportunity to volunteer at a farm-to-table dinner taking place at the hip new restaurant and culinary bookshop Pages and Plums, she seizes the chance. Not only is it a fundraiser for an organization aiding the homeless and seniors, but up for auction at the event is a signed boxset of Mastering the Art of French Cooking by Sally’s hero, the renowned chef Julia Child.

But then the Pages and Plums dining room manager turns up dead—the locked cabinet containing the precious books now empty—and the irrepressible Sally once again finds herself up to her neck in a criminal investigation. She may have a sense for murder, but can Sally outwit a devious killer with a taste for French cooking before the villain makes mincemeat of her, too?

About Leslie:





Leslie Karst is the author of the Lefty Award-nominated Sally Solari mystery series and “Justice is Served: A Tale of Scallops, the Law, and Cooking for RBG.” After years waiting tables and singing in a new wave rock band, she decided she was ready for a “real” job and ended up at Stanford Law School. It was during her career as an attorney that Leslie rediscovered her youthful passion for food and cooking and once more returned to school—this time to earn a degree in culinary arts. Now retired from the law, Leslie spends her time cooking, cycling, gardening, observing cocktail hour promptly at five o’clock, and of course writing. She and her wife split their time between Santa Cruz, California and Hilo, Hawai‘i.

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94 comments:

  1. Congratulations, Leslie, on your newest book. I'm looking forward to reading it.
    Oh, yes, I am most definitely a Julia Child fan [although I must admit that I've yet never tackled the multi-page coq au vin] . . . I enjoy watching some of the television cooking shows; Bobby Flay is a favorite . . . .

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    1. Yes, some of Julia's recipes are rather daunting, but well worth it! And I love Bobby Flay!

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  2. Congrats on the new release! (No need to enter me in the giveaway.)

    So sorry to hear you came so close to meeting her. I'm sure it would have been a fabulous day.

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  3. Most definitely got my start loving cooking shows by watching Julia! My copy of MtAoFC is wellworn!

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  4. Congrats on your new release! When my son was a toddler and still using a highchair and being fussy, I would sometimes put it in the living room and turn the tv on to PBS and Julia Childs would be on. He would be mesmerized. Then I started watching to see what was holding his attention and I was hooked. Thank you so much for this chance at your giveaway. pgenest57 at aol dot com

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  5. Congratulations Leslie. I’m off to but your new book! I was enchanted by Justice is Served. To breathe the same air as RBG is dizzying.
    I wish I’d known you when I lived in Pacifica — bowing down to kiss your ring!

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    1. Oh, and Julia’s picture and cookbooks have a place of honor in my kitchen.

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    2. Ha! I know--Julia Child and RBG definitely both hold a high place in my mind!

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  6. How sad that great opportunity fell through, Leslie. Your new book is on my TBR stack!

    Julia was still living in Cambridge when I moved to the Boston area but I never got a glimpse of her. I'm definitely a fan! When I was in high school I watched the Galloping Gourmet on TV, enchanted with his cooking, his accent, and the ever-present glass of wine, which was not a fixture in my home.

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    1. I remember watching the Galloping Gourmet

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    2. I also watched The Galloping Gourmet (Graham Kerr) on TV. His shows were filmed in Ottawa ON so the Toronto TV channel would broadcast his episodes.

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    3. We too watched the Galloping Gourmet, Graham Kerr, although glasses of wine were definitely present in our house.

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    4. I loved the Galloping Gourmet! He instilled a great love for cooking that took in mistakes and substitions when you haven't got the exact thing. I never saw Julia Child mostly because we didn't get PBS until I was in my 20s.
      Chris Wallace

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    5. Let's all drink a toast to the Galloping Gourmet!

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    1. Bobby's terrific! And seems like a nice guy, too, unlike some other celebrity chefs I can think of....

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  8. LESLIE: So sorry you missed that chance to meet Julia in person. Don't include me in the giveaway since I already enjoyed reading A SENSE FOR MURDER.

    Yes, of course I watched Julia Child on PBS.

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  9. Absolutely a fan of Julia Child. I have cooked her boeuf bourguignon recipe from Mastering -- it was complicated and delicious. Worth every step. I have read a lot about her, including My Life In France; As Always, Julia: The Letters of Julia Child and Avis DeVoto; and Dearie by Bob Spitz. Fascinating. And I could watch Julie & Julia over and over (for both Meryl Streep AND the food).

    Congratulations on your latest book, Leslie! I'm off to find it.

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    1. Amanda, did you catch the recent PBS series fictionalizing the beginnings of Julia's show? I loved it, although they fudge the history a bit.

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    2. Edith: I haven't seen that series, but I'll look it up. Thanks!

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    3. We'll have to chat-I did not like that series at all. Grrr.

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    4. Loved "Julie and Julia" (Stanley Tucci as Paul Child was great, as well), but not so much the recent TV series, which I found annoying on many levels.

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    5. I couldn't get past Paul not being played by Stanley Tucci. Sigh.

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    6. I only watched one episode of that new series. I had really looked forward to watching it but sometimes shows do not live up to my expectations.

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  10. Growing up, when I got home from school, I would do a double shot of PBS by watching episodes of The Joy of Painting (with Bob Ross) and The French Chef. So I was a fan of Julia Child for sure. At least watching her cook, I wouldn't necessarily say I was eager to try out a lot of the recipes. Though I did love how a tablespoon of wine invariably became half a bottle as she poured it. :D

    These days, I'm not really a fan of cooking shows because most of them seem to be more about competition than the actual ins-and-outs of actually cooking. I used to love Diners, Drive-ins and Dives because at least you got to watch the restaurant people doing some cooking. And didn't Anne Burrell once have an actual show on Food Network where she cooked? I remember liking that show for some reason.

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    1. I think she did.. it was "Secrets of a Restaurant Chef" or something similar. She's a character.

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  11. Leslie, I wish you had had your Day with Julia!
    I was fortunate to have quite a few during the years I participated in a culinary association she and Robert Mondavi founded. It was a treat sitting next to her at meals because she alwyas shared the :extras" the chefs sent out. Then she would turn around and take pictures of all of us, with her little disposable camera. Congratulations on your new book!

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    1. Wow Becky Sue! What a special opportunity.

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    2. Oh wow, we are green with envy--what a fabulous memory!

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    3. Yes, green with envy here, Becky Sue! How I would have loved to share a meal with her one time....

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    4. How lovely, Becky Sue. We're all envious.

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  12. It is interesting how time like a good stew must mellow us. There was a point where if I was watching Julia Child (very old shows as we did not get PBS then), he who harumphs a lot would just harumph. Now he watches and comments on food shows and garden shows (and makes plans in his head), and does not harumph. We both enjoyed the latest PBS story on Julia’s life, and I have read several of her life story books. I have however, never seen the Meryl Streep movie – one of these days.
    Cooking shows in this house include America’s Test Kitchen, Cooks Country, Great British (and Canadian) Baking Show, but none of the yelling shows – cue Gordon Ramsay, although I do look up and often use his recipes. We have worked our way through all the cooking shows on Prime. We particularly like the shows that are travelogues as much as a food show – Rick Stein springs to mind.
    As for cooking – I will try anybody or any nationality. The comment is often given – “I wish I could taste this as made by someone whose food it is.” That way you would know if you achieved the nuances of the recipe. Point in hand – I would love someone who knows it to make me matza ball soup. I have an invite from a friend of my son’s mother (try and trace that lineage in the sentence) who I have never met, to go to Israel and drop by any time and she will make me some. (I made it one Easter and it was so boring that I know I must have not achieved the nirvana.)
    Now what is for lunch?

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    1. Ha! Love this, Margo! And yes, how special it is to get to cook with someone who knows the food intimately! I once got a gnocci-making lesson from a friend's 90-year-old nonna, which was fabulous! She was a total pistol, and the gnocci were heaven!

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    2. The thing about matzo ball soup is that it is like curry or limoncello or sushi or sarma-- every family's traditions are different, and one of course prefers the nuanced version one grew up eating. Both of my grandmothers made chicken soup to die for, but each version was quite different. My maternal grandmother put in whole carrots and parsnips with their tops, andalls ling pieces of dill

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  13. Yes! Would have been very cool to even almost meet her. I remember my mom watching her on weekends, plus her show with Jacques Pepin. I still watch some of the Food Network shows with mom, our favorites being Pioneer Woman, Trisha, The Kitchen, Valerie, and some of those competition ones like Holiday/Spring/Summer/Halloween Baking Championship and Halloween Wars.

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    1. Ah, Jacques Pepin--what a lovely soul he is! I love those short cooking videos that he makes in his home kitchen,

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  14. From Celia: As a new bride, arriving in NYC from the UK in 1969, I missed Julia completely as we had no TV. However I was already cooking following the English chef, Robert Carrier. Once in the USA I learned swiftly about Julia Child so I do sympathize with you over a lost opportunity which offers a great story. My first TV chef was Graham Kerr, the Galloping Gourmet. His show broadcast in NYC at lunchtime. I would join a friend in her office and watch him with her. We loved the wine and fun. In fact we were such fans that our two husbands gave us his calendar of recipes for Christmas that year and we agreed to take a monthly turn and turn about to host each other a cook the months recipe. Finally a move to the suburbs brought a TV and Julia was on With Julia and Company. Alas our TV signal was weak so I missed a lot of shows. But I had acquired both copies of Mastering the Art at the library sale plus buying her two Julia and Company books which I found easier to follow. Those books helped me launch my small catering company at the end of the ‘70’s - The British Butler. The launch of The Food Network passed more by as we didn’t have cable but I kept cooking. Now with YouTube, GBBO, and all the other shows watching food prep and presentation has become a 24 hour phenomenon. But Julia rules. Her story, personality, sheer stick to it’ ness inspired me and half the world. And I want to find and real your RBG book too. I feel lucky to be living inspired by these goddesses. Thank you Leslie.

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    1. The RBG book - JUSTICE IS SERVED - is such a good read, Celia.

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    2. Yes, I loved that book too. I was sorry I had read it on my Kindle so I couldn't copy the recipes which I know were wonderful!

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  15. Hi Leslie! Your new Sally Solari book sounds way fun. My mom also watched Julia Child on PBS and took notes; although I don't really think she actually tried to make the recipes. My mom didn't have that much patience for cooking. I watch a lot of Food Network shows. I'm not a huge fan of Bobby Flay, so I like to see him lose on Beat Bobby Flay. I also like Alex Guarnaschelli. She's fierce and competitive and no-nonsense.

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  16. Congrats Leslie! I look forward to reading your newest book - yes, please put me on the list for the book! My fav tv cook is Ina Garten. And who doesn't like Julia Child? She was bigger than life, loved her voice and her enthusiasm.

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    1. Yes, that VOICE! I can hear it now, as I type those words!

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  17. Loved watching Julia on TV, I don't own the cookbook, but I still use many of the techniques I learned on her show. Just watch me make an omelet - effortless! I was equally addicted to Pierre Franey and Nigela Lawson.

    As an aside, I have a friend whose family owns Savenor's market. From all accounts, Julia was a larger than life personality with a grand sense of humor. Just the way she presented herself on television.

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    1. Yes, to the omelet making! Between Julia's demo and Hallie's tips on JRW, I make flawless omelets!

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    2. I do, too. I had one for lunch yesterday with sauteed oyster mushrooms and goat cheese. It was divine. I learned to make omelets from my mom, who I'm pretty sure learned from watching Julia.

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  18. I am SUCH a fan! And this sounds great. And yes, Julia taught me to make that perfect omelette--on TV, of course. And her onion soup, and beef bourguignon. Yum yum yum and everything (except the omelette) takes HOURS! ANd lots of butter.
    Oh, your RBG book--I adored it, as you know--and my husband did, too! xx Welcome!

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  19. Congratulations Leslie! I used to watch cooking shows when the kids were young. They were entertaining and enjoyable. My favorites were The Galloping Gourmet, Ina, Giada and The Canadian Chopped.

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  20. Leslie, a brush with greatness, for sure! Your new book sounds delicious, and I especially love Sally's restaurant's name. Gaugin is perfect.

    Like Celia, Graham Kerr was my first TV chef, and he fascinated me. My dad was a brilliant cook, although my mom put all the boring everyday meals on the table, and her specialty was homemade desserts. Until the crazy galloping Brit, I'd never seen any other man cooking, really. My grandpa made delicious cakes from scratch, but Grandma did the heavy lifting at mealtime. Daddy taught my sister and me to put a tasty dinner on the table.

    I still have several recipes I wrote down of Kerr's, not a single one that I've ever made, because they were crazily impractical for one reason or another. Like hangop, a Dutch dessert you make by filling a linen dish towel with full fat cream or yogurt and tying the ends of the towel together, then hanging it over a basin for 24 hours. I was a new mom, 19 years old, and apparently had a rich fantasy life about my entertaining capabilities.

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  21. I loved watching Julia on TV as a kid - her stories were wonderful. I am a big fan of Top Chef, Tom Colicchio, Alex Guarnaschelli and Ming Tsai. Thank you for the chance to win. aprilbluetx at yahoo dot com

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  22. Leslie, Congratulations on the new book! It sounds wonderful.
    Like so many of my generation, one of the wedding gifts I got was a copy of Julia's Mastering the Art. YES they are SO COMPLICATED, those recipes. But, as she might have said, Vive la difference! I love her bouillabaisse recipe. My first encounter with saffron threads. Sublime.

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  23. My first memories of Julia Child was my dad turning on PBS. while made Sunday dinner and there was Julia. Mom's pot roast vs Julia's blend bourguignon? Sorry, Julia, I love my Mom's put roast. I loved when Julia and Jacques Pepin had a series together. It was fun to hear the give and take on recipes, ingredients and techniques.

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    1. Deana here - boy, oh boy - would you look at those typos I left today. Ugh!
      It is supposed to be: while MOM made Sunday..
      and then - bouef (which I have most likely spelled incorrectly) . oh well. :-)

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  24. LESLIE: Julia Child was a trailblazer!

    When she was living in France with her husband, a diplomat?, she embraced the French lifestyle. She learned the French language and learned about French cooking. She went to the Farmer's Markets. I grew up watching Julia Child on PBS then watched her and Jacques Pepin on PBS.

    The movie Julia and Julie was wonderful. And the movie showed her exhibit at the Smithsonian.

    At my first Malice Domestic, I discovered your first culinary mystery. I started borrowing the copies of your books from the library. That is, the books that they had available.

    Diana

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    1. Yes, she is an American icon--we all have her to thank for so much! And glad the library has my books, Diana! (And if they don't, if you ask, they may very well get them.)

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  25. I loved watching Julia Child! I used her recipe to make croissants once. They were giant but delicious. I obviously messed up! My son and I both enjoyed Two Fat Ladies. What a show. What a pair. They'd travel across the British Isles to their destination to cook. And also had a cigarette and a cocktail when they were done.

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    1. OMG, I'd forgotten about "Two Fat Ladies"--I LOVED that show! And I'm thinking giant croissants sound pretty darn good....

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    2. Two Fat Ladies!! Yes, they were a hoot!

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  26. Congrats on your latest, Leslie. You know how much I adore Sally Solari! I can't wait to read A Sense for Murder and for what it's worth, I can totally picture you and Julia becoming besties :)

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  27. I love Julia Child. My husband proposed to me the night I made SuprĂŞmes de Volailles for him.

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  28. Congrats on the release of A SENSE FOR MURDER, Leslie - Sally Solari fans will be rejoicing! I don't think I knew you had done a cooking course - what a wonderful way to step out of the day-to-day and expand your horizons. Of course, that's part of what cooking and eating does for all of us.

    As for Julia Child, I blush to admit I've never read her masterpiece, but I have great respect for her as a Smithie - my daughter got to work in the Julia Child archives when she was there.

    My celebrity chef crush is Graham Kerr. I was too young for the original Galloping Gourmet series, but I faithfully watched The Graham Kerr Show and Graham Kerr's Kitchen in the nineties, where he focused on making delicious dishes with low fat and low cholesterol. I'd love to meet him in person - I've heard he's as funny and gracious in real life as he is on screen.

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    1. I adore Graham Kerr (and have his Galloping Gourmet cookbook), but gotta say I prefer the original recipes over the "healthy" ones, lol.

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    2. That was Leslie, commenting above, BTW.

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    3. Apparently he's 89 and still cooking!

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  29. Jacques Pepin is a definite favorite--I got to meet him once when I was one of the wait staff for the Yale New Haven Children's Hospital opening fun raiser. Such a lovely man! And one of my favorite recipes, largely because the show about it was so much fun, is what his late wife called Garbage Soup. Get out some stock, cream if you like and maybe the immersion blender to do up some of it into a puree. Now, go through the fridge--anything rotten, of course throw out. Pile up the leftover veg--parts of onions, droopy carrots, wilted greens, leftover broccoli, what ever you got. Chop and sautee these--some harder veg, like a tired couple of beets, etc. can be roasted. Add stock, some cream if you like. Puree some or all if you like, add salt and pepper, garnish with herbs. Yum--and each one is delicious!
    Cheers!
    -Melanie

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    1. Let's hear it for Garbage Soup! (Which I've been making for years, but now I know it's name!)

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    2. Try Pepin's mama's cheese soufflé - perfect everytime!

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  30. So close and yet so far with your almost meeting Julia Child! But the anticipation must have been glorious.
    My parents gave us a copy of The Art as a wedding present. Inside it says, "For your more affluent days." Both my parents were great cooks. Our dog had to go on a diet because of the reduced cream sauces she helped clean up after!

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  31. I just checked, my copies of Vol. 1 & 2 of Mastering the Art were published in 1970 & 71! While I never made the coq au vin, I did make the puff pastry, many sauces, and other dishes, and had a day long adventure with French Onion Soup!

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    1. Wow--they're probably collectors' items! Et vive le soup d'oignon!

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  32. That would have been a treat to meet Julia Child. I have watched many of her cooking shows along with Jacques Pepin and have her cook books. deborahortega229@yahoo.com

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  33. Congratulations on your new release! Looking forward to reading it. Julia Childs is on of my favorite TV chefs/cooks. She was quite the character. On. Ree Drummond is one of my current favorite TV cooks.

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    1. Thanks, Dianne! And yes, she was a hoot and a half, as my Grammy used to say!

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  34. So sorry you missed meeting Julia, Leslie, but even that makes a great story! I'm so looking forward to the new Sally, too.

    My biggest cooking influence as a young mom would have been The Frugal Gourmet--the book came out the year after my daughter was born, and of course his show was on TV. What a sad story that is--I remember how shocked I was when the stories about him broke. We'd even been to signings for his books. I still have a couple of signed copies on my shelves somewhere, and still cook with some of his recipes from memory.

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    1. I had to look up what happened to him--I had no idea!

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  35. Congrats on the release, Leslie. I don't know as I'm a fan, but I sure did like watching her on TV.

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    1. Even for non-cooks, she was always fun to watch!

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  36. My parents and I watched Julia along with the other PBS cooks. Now I watch Diners, Drive-Ins, and Dives and The Kitchen. Mom didn't really have time to make fancy food, and I seldom cook anything that takes more than half an hour unless I can put it in the crock pot overnight.
    I enjoy your series and look forward to the new book.

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  37. Congratulations on your new book, Leslie! I look forward to reading it. Julia was the only TV chef I made a point to watch whenever it was on. I've caught other cooking shows here and there but none have matched my Julia. I had all her cookbooks but I definitely cannot say I made all her recipes. I tried to "corn" a piece of beef once and I do not know where I went wrong, but it was not edible. On the other hand, I made her Trifle, something I had never even heard of before. I watched her make it and I did just what she did and it was supremely good! I seem to be more of a baker, pastry cook, not so much a meat cook.

    Among the things lost in my house fire were those cookbooks, as well as others, but I have managed to replace most of them. They lack my notes and smudges but some things just cannot be helped.

    Sorry you didn't get to meet Julia in person, but your imagination allowed you to have a remarkable and memorable visit.

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    1. So sorry to hear you lost all those notes and smudges, Judi, but hopefully you can replace them with new ones!

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  38. Such a wonderful book, and what a way to honor the meeting that almost happened. <3
    Storyteller Mary

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  39. I catch some reruns of Julia on my local PBS. Still delightful to watch. My dad does a good Julia voice and usually graces us with it during Thanksgiving dinner prep which is one the few times he is involved in cooking. I hardly ever get a chance to watch any other cooking shows as I do not have control of the television in this house.

    Years ago I loved to watch Marcel DeSaulniers’ show. He taught me how to make ganache. I reference things in his cookbooks to this day.

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    1. Everyone should learn how to do the "Julia voice"!

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