RHYS BOWEN: As you now know, my new book, THE CASTLE IN THE GLEN is set in Scotland. I’d been wanting to set a story there for some time but couldn’t find any story idea that would fit until now. So I was delighted to send my heroine, Emma, up to the Isle of Skye to experience that atmospheric scenery as she tries to solve an old murder case.
Scotland is one of those places that draws people…that mix of wild scenery, mists, storms, Celtic heritage and traditions and a wee bit of magic thrown in. We love to think about storm kelpies, shape shifters and small towns that only appear once every hundred years. When you set a story in such a place you start with a degree of expectation and even a sense of danger. Perfect for a mystery.
Thinking about this it’s interesting to me that some settings seem to resonate with readers more than others. Two of my books that have sold the most copies are the Tuscan Child, The Venice Sketchbook. There is something about Tuscany and Venice that draws people. We get a clear picture of hilltop towns, of canals and bridges. And of course they come with all the history and romance too. When you open a book about Tuscany you expect history, romance, sweeping vistas. If I set a book in Cleveland Ohio, I’d have to work hard to take my reader there.
Other places that seem to have instant appeal are Paris, of course. So many books with Paris in the title (yes, I’m guilty too). And look at Jenn’s Paris is Always a Good Idea, which I’m loving on TV!!! Then there is the English countryside. Set a book in the Cotswolds or Cornwall and people will want to read it. The other one is Nantucket. How many books have I seen recently with titles like The Nantucket Summer, the Nantucket Heartbreak. Now I’ve been to Nantucket and it is charming but there are so many charming villages up and down that coast. Why not the Gloucester Summer, the Kennebunkport Romance? I suppose Nantucket is an island, which makes it more appealing.
So I’d like your take on this: how important is setting to you? Is deciding on setting one of the things you do first? Or do you create your characters and then decide where to put them? Have you ever wished you’d set a book somewhere else? Why do you think certain places seem to draw in readers more than others?
LUCY BURDETTE: I adored the Isle of Skye in your new book Rhys, but then all of your standalone titles have had wonderful settings. But think about Ann Cleeves for a minute. I suspect her best-selling series is the Shetland books, though I don’t know that for a fact. I like the backdrops in Vera and Two Rivers, but Shetland really stands out. You might remember that I took my family there a few years back because of Ann’s mysteries. It’s just as spectacular as she describes it, both in words and in the TV series. Kent Kreuger is also a master at setting–mostly the boundary waters of Minnesota. He’s able to use the setting to magnify the darkness of the books–this happens with Icelandic authors too.
Key West is different because it isn’t dark, at least on the surface. The contrast makes it an amazing place to set books. You don’t expect crime in such a beautiful place! Lots of my readers have been there once and the books allow them to travel back to a place they love. That’s how I feel about Paris!
HALLIE EPHRON: Scotland! Key West! Miss Marple’s St. Mary Meade! Philip Marlowe, Easy Rawlins, Harry Bosch, none of them could be rooted anywhere but Los Angeles.
When I was writing my first novel I mistakenly thought that setting was “window dressing” - you needed characters to be rooted. But there’s so much more to it than that.So many great mystery novels, in particular, are particularly great because of the setting. (Hoping to one day to hang out with Cara Black in Paris on one of her tours of Aimée LeDuc’s hangouts.) Rhys, you totally ace it with THE CASTLE IN THE GLEN. *AND* we get to visit it in two timelines!!
JENN McKINLAY: Thank you for taking me vicariously to the Isle of Skye, Rhys! It’s on my list but this was so much easier than actually booking a flight.
Setting is huge for me as an author. I like to write about places I want to visit because…research trip! As a reader, I definitely enjoy a well written setting but I’m more open to different places because I don’t have to write about them – if that makes sense.
HANK PHILLIPPI RYAN: I had the joy of taking myself to the Berkshires (in my imagination and memory) for MOTHER DAUGHTER SISTER STRANGER, and it is fascinating how my lived experiences there for so many summers came back in the loveliest ways–and sometimes, the scariest. And when you are actually there, you see and hear and experience things that make it so authentic. The turn of a phrase, or someone’s nickname, or how the windows fog up when you go inside.
SO funny–the opposite works, too. When I wrote ALL THIS COULD BE YOURS, Tessa had to go to Des Moines. (too long to explain) I had never been to Des Moines, so I researched like mad and it turned out that the Des Moines Public Library (and its surroundings) became the setting for several crucial scenes. So of course I went there on book tour, and I laughed for a solid hour. Because it looked exactly like how I had written it in the book! It was SO funny! I kept thinking: My book is REAL!
JULIA SPENCER-FLEMING: Setting is SO important! One of my early influences was Tony Hillerman; there’s nothing in his books - character, crime, economy, dangers - that doesn’t flow out of the setting. Yes, there are times I wish I had written a series that took place somewhere other than the chilly Adirondack piedmont, usually when one of you are taking a research trip to the French Riviera or the English countryside!
There’s an interesting example of setting in Lee Child’s ONE SHOT. The midwestern city where the action takes place is never named, but Lee got the small details and the vibe so right multiple readers over the years have sworn it takes place in Columbus, or Cincinnati, or Omaha, or Kansas City, etc, etc. A lesson in how the particulars and the feel of a place make the setting for the reader, not the street names and locations.
DEBORAH CROMBIE: You couldn't have picked a more atmospheric setting than the Isle of Skye, Rhys! And what a fabulous place to "have" to do research!
I'm a sucker for setting, both as a reader and a writer. Setting has almost always been the first trigger for my books, a place that tickled my imagination, sometimes one already familiar and sometimes one I've wanted an excuse to visit. And I have to admit I'm most likely to pick up a book by an unfamiliar author if the setting appeals. Now, why we are attracted to certain places more than others is its own mystery…
RHYS: Now it's your turn. How important is setting to you? Are there some settings that instantly draw you to a book?














Some of my favorite books are those in which the setting is almost like a character in the telling of the story; immersive settings definitely make the story come alive for me . . . .
ReplyDeleteLike Tony Hillerman's, Sue Grafton's novels had a pervading sense of place. Another writer, not of mysteries, who did this was the Maine author Elisabeth Ogilvie. When I was a teenager, her TIDE trilogy, set among lobstering families on a remote Maine island in the 1930s and 40s, introduced me to a different world. I am claustrophobic on the water and don't even like lobster! But decades later I still enjoy visiting that setting via Ogilvie's prose. (Selden)
ReplyDeleteThose Maine books sound good Selden! (Of course I loved Barb Ross's series for the same reason.)
DeleteOh how I loved the books of Elisabeth Ogilvie, all of them! It was because of those books that my dream was to live on an island off the coast. Well that never happened in real life but it was fun to dream about.
DeleteSome of my favorites books are set in a small town you never know what will happen or what you will learn especially about the past
ReplyDeleteI agree with Joan about setting that is akin to another character in the story. The Last Whaler by Cynthia Reeves is set in the Arctic during winter and a couple misses the boat to return to Norway. They end up alone in the Arctic and it plays, in my mind, a huge part in impacting the characters and their decisions. I find I love any Nordic writer simply because their settings are so integral to the book's characters and their behavior. -- Victoria
ReplyDeleteYes Victoria, agree! Are those people left behind tourists? that sounds horrifying!
DeleteThe setting is really important to me because I like to be transported to my favorite places or places I’d like to go. But even an “uninteresting” setting can be compelling though (example: Mare of East-Town). Extraordinary things happen in ordinary places all the time!
ReplyDeleteSettings are important to me. My first visit in Europe was Scotland because of all the books I had read taking place there . Most of my travels are rooted in books I have read.
ReplyDeleteI am always attracted with books that have settings like Scotland, England, Ireland, Australia, the Nordic countries.
At the same time, it’s what the author makes of the setting that is important. For decades now, I’ve wanted to live in Three Pines because of how it is presented even if it doesn’t exist.
Part of the fun of reading is being transported to other places. Actually going to a place and finding it to feel so familiar from the books you’ve read is such a bonus! I do find myself more drawn to books that feature places I have been.(Yes even Des Moines!) I will never get to all the places I have been in books.
ReplyDeleteRhys, I loved “Castle in the Glen”! I’ve only been to Scotland once, last May, and saw so little ( Edinburg, Loch Lomond, Oban). Any book I read with anywhere in Scotland makes me want to go back. Setting is as important to me as the characters. Even when the setting is a fictional town our country ( thank you Sara Paretsky and “Bad Company”) I still like looking up where it “could” be. I think all the Jungle Red Writers do a great job with setting and place. And Julia, reading Tony Hillerman’s books can be meditative with his country and settings, in spite of the murder.
ReplyDeleteNot a setting person, as in I would not read a book just because of the setting, the story is the thing. Setting becomes important to me in an ongoing series…returning to familiar characters and to their home territory, however geographically large or small that territory is. Happy Monday, all. Elisabeth
ReplyDeleteI also enjoy a book where the setting is almost a character in itself, though there are also many great books where that is not the case. I strongly agree with Deb's statement that I am much more likely to pick up a book by an unfamiliar author if the setting appeals. In addition to locations already mentioned, I'm a sucker for books set in New Orleans. Or in any library. And since my visit to Japan, I'm developing a taste for translated books set there.
ReplyDeleteIf you are talking of location, I think you should also be speaking of weather – and how the two are dependent on each other. I will admit in The Venice Sketchbook, I was always subconsciously away of the possibility of rising water.
ReplyDeleteA few examples: Peter May – one series set in the Outer Hebrides – there is always weather – and we are always forewarned of it in about chapter 3 where it will be mentioned that rain/a storm is forecast…dum, dum, dum, dum…
Peter May – Entry Island – set on a small island off the Isle de les Madelaines – situated in Canada, governed by the Surete of Quebec – isolated, crossing borders and legal systems – and weather/ferries.
Louise Penny – all books involve land, culture, politics and weather.
Julia – there is more weather always happening in my imagination of Maine!
Then look at Debs – set in areas of Britian where to my mind the focus of the story is in the family (real and police) and the story and incident. The setting is very background – important, but not the most important detail.
One last author – Michener – What would the novel Hawaii be without the beginning chapters on the creation of the island?
Which leads to settings that you should never use – could you set a brutal killing in the middle of Beatrix Potter’s magic settings? What would happen to Peter Rabbit?
Settings are important! I actually like the "description" and "background" writing in novels, just getting a feel for the place. I've returned time and again to Venice with Donna Leon, to Sweden with Helene Tursten, to Minnesota with Kent Krueger, and to Norfolk with Elly Griffiths, and of course to all the JRW settings! Scotland was one of the first places I went when I read The Middle Window by Elizabeth Goudge as a teen and then D.K. Broster's Jacobite trilogy.
ReplyDeleteDon't forget the use of "It was a dark and stormy night." I like when the authors use weather as a background in movies and books.
ReplyDeleteThe setting does influence me - and if I'm book shopping I am drawn to books set in Italy, Paris, England (and Key West!) particularly. But it won't be the reason I buy the book.