Tuesday, May 30, 2023

Emmeline Duncan and her GROUND RULES to Portland, Oregon #bookgiveaway

 

HALLIE EPHRON: Today we're delighted to welcome Emmeline Duncan, author of the Ground Rules series set in one of my favorite cities, Portland, Oregon. (She also writes young adult novels as Kelly Garrett -- her debut YA (THE LAST TO DIE), was an Oregon Book Awards finalist.)

Emmeline is here to talk about her third Ground Rules mystery novel: FLAT WHITE FATALITY. (The series began with in 2021 with FRESH BREWED MURDER and 2022's DOUBLE SHOT DEATH.)

Coffee. Portland. "Tips on coffee and a touch of romance combine in a mystery with a strong West Coast vibe." (Kirkus Review) What's not to like?!

EMMELINE DUNCAN: When I started writing my Ground Rules mystery series, I wanted to do was showcase the Portland I know and love. My series is set around a coffee cart and food cart pod, which you can find all over the city.
Even Portland dogs, like Emmeline's Waylon, have opinions about coffee.
But I wanted more Portland.
More quirkiness.
More local flavor.

Luckily, I just had to look around me for inspiration.

For example, while writing Flat White Fatality, I was inspired by the time I walked into a bar and found myself surrounded by pirates singing sea shanties. It turned out they had negotiated an agreement with the owner: they'd only sign two songs per night. Which made me wonder: what was the bar like before this arrangement when they'd sung all night? Clearly, the pirates needed to make an appearance in a book.

Another time, a writer friend and I walked into a patisserie and found ourselves amongst about thirty women all dressed up as dolls. Their costumes and makeup were impressive—any self-respecting cosplayer would've asked them for tips. 

So clearly, this group needed to make a pivotal appearance in one of the books!
Portland from Burnside Bridge. Cherry blossom season is a beautiful time to go for a walk on the Portland waterfront. Fun fact: once upon a time, this park was a highway!]

In Double Shot Death, Pickathon, a real-life eco-music festival on a tree farm on the outskirts of Portland, inspired my setting. Although I took the concept and changed it to work within the confines of my novel.

While writing the rough draft, my agent sent me an email after Caesar the No Drama Llama, a local celebrity of sorts, made the national news and said he hoped Caesar would make an appearance. I replied immediately to let him know I'd already worked a fictionalized version of the llama into the story! 

Although in my novel, the llama wears a top hat, and he’s not named Caesar. In Caesar’s real life, with volunteer visits to schools, nursing homes, and similar events, he doesn’t wear clothing. And in case you're wondering, Caesar was not trained to be a therapy llama—he's just a naturally chill dude who doesn't react to loud stimuli, lets kids hug him, and naturally poses for cameras. In short, he's a natural no-drama llama. Double Shot Death has a few other local references, but the llama is my favorite.

These moments of levity add depth of setting to the book and also provide a counterbalance for the times I mention grittier issues, like homelessness and gentrification. 

Because while my book is cozy, it acknowledges the realities of living in a city, even if the camera angle doesn't spend time dwelling in darkness. And some of the series' inspiration, like the Suspended Coffee board at the coffee cart, is based on an actual program that encourages customers to pre-buy coffee or food items for someone down on their luck to claim later. 

So if you visit Portland, there’s a decent chance you’ll drop by Powell’s (and please be aware the downtown location’s coffee shop is now run by Guilder, a local coffee roaster and café with a Princess Bride theme). If you’re lucky, maybe you’ll see a group of witches stand-up paddle boarding in the Willamette River (after all, everyone needs exercise!) Or catch a glimpse of the Unipiper as he glides by. (The Unipiper is a man who rides a unicycle while playing the bagpipes . . . in costume. Darth Vader is one of his favorites.)

If you could walk into a bar or coffee shop and find a group of enthusiasts, whom would you like to come across?

HALLIE: We are such big fans of Powell's here on Jungle Red! Great bookstore. Surrounded by a great city.

Emmeline will be giving away a copy of FLAT WHITE FATALITY to one of today's lucky commenters... so pile on, let us know whom you'd like to come across if you walked into a bar of coffee shop to find a grup of enthusiasts...

About Emmeline Duncan: Like her Ground Rules Mystery series, Emmeline Duncan is based in Portland, Oregon. Her series includes Fresh Brewed Murder, Double Shot Death, and Flat White Fatality, which came out on May 23rd. You can track her online at emmelineduncan.com.

About Flat White Fatality
To top off her coffee business, Sage is now helping out with her boyfriend Bax’s gaming company. Conveniently for Sage, it’s located next door to her Ground Rules Roastery. That makes it easy for her to pitch in with Bax’s employee team-building event. The plan is to boost morale with a scavenger hunt. And it seems to be going well—until Robbie, a programmer known for being a prankster, turns up dead in Sage’s roastery . . .

There are two suspects so far: Sage, who has no idea how the victim ended up in her space; and Bax, who was allegedly spotted arguing with Robbie the day before. But could it be a disgruntled employee? After all, Robbie’s sense of humor was known to have rubbed some coworkers the wrong way. Now, it’s up to Sage to find the culprit—before another life grinds to a halt.

97 comments:

  1. Congratulations, Emmeline, on your newest book . . . now I’m looking forward to discovering the culprit who left Robbie dead in Sage’s roastery!

    If I walked into a coffee shop and found a group of enthusiasts, I would enjoy being surrounded by Enterprise crew members on a Star Trek mission . . . .

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    1. Oh, me too! A la Galaxy Quest!

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    2. There used to be a "nerd"-themed bar in SE Portland that sadly closed during the pandemic. You might have come across a group of Star Trek fans there at one point!

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    3. That would be so fun to meet the Enterprise crew members on a Star Trek mission, Joan!

      Diana

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  2. Emmeline, congrats on your recent book release. I love the idea of walking into a bar or coffee shop and being surrounded by young people singing broadways tunes

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    1. It would be so much fun. A singalong!

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    2. That would be fun!

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  3. Congratulations on your new book. I have never been to Portland but it sounds like a hoot. Guess I'd like to walk into a coffee shop and be surrounded by the folks from Schitt's Creek making plans for a musical.

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  4. What great sites for your series! I loved all the details. Especially the llama. As for who would I like to see in a favorite bar/cafe/restaurant, this actually happened here in Braga, Portugal: One evening we were coming back from our nightly "promenade" to the historic center near where we live. We normally have a glass of wine and then walk home. Well, as we were walking home, we took a side street for a shortcut, and outside a little bar/cafe, five men were sitting around an outdoor table playing guitars and singing. The wonderful thing about them, is that they all had good voices, and the would break into perfect harmony as they sang traditional folklorical, popular, and Fado songs. Local passers by knew some of the tunes and sang along as they walked by. We were spellbound, and it was soon clear to us that we weren't going to go home and cook, so we ordered a couple of tapas and wine and sat down to listen for about the next two hours. It was after eleven when they finally broke up. These were not a "group" per se (i.e. professional); they were just five friends who get together and sing. We've been back several times, hoping to hear them again, and once they were at mid afternoon. We think (hope?) they will be back.

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    1. That is delightful, Elizabeth!

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    2. That's magical, Elizabeth.

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    3. That sounds like a wonderful travel experience!

      Side note, there's an Irish bar in Portland owned by a former Irish soap opera star and if you walk in at the right time, you'll be amongst a bar full of mostly Irish people singing. (Mostly Irish meaning, in my experience, most of the crowd are immigrants along with a few Americans who know the lyrics.)

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    4. The Irish Bar sounds cool, Emmeline! And what a fun travel experience, Elizabeth!

      Diana

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    5. The Irish bar does sound like a treat. As do so many of these. I have never been to Portland, but this series does sound like great vicarious travel. Congratulations on the new book.

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  5. Kudos on the new book, Emmaline! I'm woefully behind on your series and must remedy that, having spent a fair bit of time in Portland while I was married to a native. I love how you worked in those local personalities.

    Being a bit culturally clueless (as always), I'd never figured out where the word cosplay came from and looked it up. Costume Play - aha! I adore costumes - seeing and wearing - and would love to walk in on a gathering of people dressed (and in character) as famous dead authors, particularly the women: Virginia Woolf, Dorothy L. Sayers, Louisa May Alcott, Agatha Christie, Jane Austen. How fun would that be?

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    1. It would be fun, but in my imagination they'd all be basically dressed similarly...

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    2. Certainly not Austen or Alcott! And it would be fun to see style differences between the ones of a similar era, and to eavesdrop on all of them.

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    3. Imagine how much fun it could be--and the set up of a cozy mystery--if two of the Louisa May Alcott's were arguing about whose costume is more authentic?!?

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    4. Edith, if Doctor Who brought Virginia Woolf, Dorothy Sayers, Louisa May Alcott, Agatha Christie and Jane Austen in the TARDIS and brought them to the coffee cafe, then that would be awesome!

      Diana

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    5. Dr Who did meet Agatha Christie in an excellent episode. And Marian Babson wrote a book where two historical mystery writers fought endlessly. One had a historical personage as a detective and her competition had the same real person as the wicked antagonist! I think it was titled Canapes for the Kitties.
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    6. There are Jane Austen teas all over on Austen's birthday. Everyone dresses in Regency garb and hairdos, and speak like characters in her novels. A friend now in her mid-70s has participated for decades, and used to post photos of gowns she'd made for herself on a sewing message board.

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  6. Congrats on your new book! I've never been to Portland but it sounds like a fun place. I would like to go to a coffee shop that is like from the 60's, Beatniks and all. Like the movie "I Think I Married An Axe Murderer" with Mike Myers. Thank you for this chance at your giveaway. pgenest57 at aol dot com

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    1. Thanks for your comment! Going to have to watch that movie...

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    2. A beatnik cafe would be fun!

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  7. Portland is a wonderful, quirky city with very distinct neighborhoods and, because of the hills, differing weather conditions. My step brother and his wife raised their family there and my son lived there for a few years. My husband and I have visited several times, but not recently. I love the idea of prepaying for coffee and meals for those who may need it. It's something many would do and perfect for a food truck pod.

    Every idea so far sounds good to me, from sea shanty singing pirates to a Broadway tunes to Star Ship Enterprise. I love the idea that there will be singing, not just costumes. I think it'd be fun to walk into a bar with people dressed like hippies, singing songs of the 1960's and 1970's.

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    1. Reveling in The Mamas and the Papas, would be my choice.

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    2. Side note, I saw the trailer for the new Barbie movie yesterday and there was a Mama Cass song toward the end.

      And I love the Suspended Coffee concept and would love to see it widely adopted. :)

      It can be hilarious when weather conditions change over the city--like when I was socked in with a serious amount of snow, but other parts of the city were dry?!?

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  8. Whoops! Emmeline, congratulations on your new book. I am going to look for the series this morning, it sounds delightful.

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  9. Congratulations Emmeline! (great name, by the way) I don't know your series and will have to fix that. I know that Portland has had some serious problems over the past few years. How do you handle that in a lighter series? (I have similar issues in Key West.)

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    1. In the past few years, especially during the last presidential election, the Portland I saw on national news didn't feel like the city I was living in the middle of. Like the 100-days of protests was real, but the city wasn't under siege. It was mostly peaceful* and the only violence happened in a small segment of non-residential downtown Portland.

      *Some of the protests mustered in a park by me before marching downtown and they actually organized trash pickup and similar, and left the park cleaner than it was when they started. Which I appreciated.

      But we are dealing with serious issues like homelessness, which aren't exclusively local problems. And the systematic causes of homelessness, for example, are really a national problem. Although if you look at the Atlantic's recent article, for example, the West Coast's lack of housing is a major reason for homelessness while places with higher level of poverty have fewer unhoused people. This is such a hard problem and Portland (and Oregon) are investing in helping--hopefully the new programs are successful. (A few have been successful in small scale so fingers crossed they work as they're rolled out.)

      As far as dealing with it in a cozy--I see it was acknowledging the problem but being careful where the camera lingers. And while both trying to avoid stereotypes and remembering that all characters, no matter how small, are the heroes (or anti-heroes) of their own stories. So I focus on what my character can do to help (Suspended Coffee board, donating coffee to an outreach program) while keeping the story focused on her life.

      How to work real life issues into cozies is something I have a lot of opinions about and I'm open to further discussion!

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    2. I totally agree, Emmeline. The Portland I saw on the news was very different from my peaceful neighborhood. Some friends would post pictures of their beautiful yards with captions like, "Portland under siege." Unfortunately, a tiny percentage of the protesters used violent tactics, which gave a bad name to a group that was overwhelmingly peaceful. After the peaceful marchers dispersed, the violent splinter would go to war with the police.

      Homelessness continues to be a major problem, in part due to a shortage of affordable housing. I too am hopeful that our new programs will work and we can get people into shelter and housing.

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    3. Homelessness is a very complicated problem. Many poor whites from the Midwest like Ohio, Indiana migrated to the west for better welfare, and their dependence on welfare has become generational. Also, a lack of social services because in the town I live in more 60% of the homeless are alcoholics and drug addicted. Maybe one solution wound be to send them back to their state of origin, where they can be housed and will have to work because there is no welfare. I’m tired of people saying it is a housing issue. It is a drug and mental health issue primarily.

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    4. Anonymous, whatever gives you the idea that there's no welfare in the Midwest? That's simply not the case.

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    5. I agree with anonymous that part of the problem is untreated mental illness and addiction. Unfortunately the laws in Oregon really lean in the direction of not forcing people into treatment. I have a friend whose young adult child has schizophrenia. In Oregon, said child was on the streets, in jail, in and out of hospital and had very short periods of stability. In Pennsylvania, where the family now live, they were able to send this young person to inpatient treatment with followup to gain a lot more stability and the family is doing well.

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  10. Portland is also one of my favorite cities, and where my middle daughter has lived for the last few years. We visited her there in 2022. and I was stunned to see how many homeless there are now. So it's not surprising to know that suspended coffee exists there. My daughter might have been one of the witches, who knows. One of her friends started a white coven.

    I can't imagine any surprising things in coffeeshops not mentioned already, but I'd quite enjoy hearing a couple sea shanties over my double espresso!



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    1. Homelessness is a huge problem everywhere. It's really shocking to see the change.

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    2. The homelessness situation is heart-breaking and it's a huge problem on most of the West coast. The pandemic made it even more visible in Portland, and the city has implemented quite a few new programs, as has the state. So fingers crossed they start to take effect in a way that helps solve the problem.

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    3. The band aid solutions currently implemented in the west waste money and resources, they are not long term, only methods of getting people off the streets. Even if you house the homeless, they can’t afford to feed themselves and pay for basic needs. The areas are too expensive. Most of these people need institutional medical care not just a place to sleep,

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  11. EMMELINE: I enjoyed your first two books and am looking forward to reading FLAT WHITE FATALITY. I have only been to Portland OR once and enjoyed it tremendously. Its quirky nature, food pods and Powell's Books make it a unique city to visit IRL and on the page.

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    1. I'm a Portland fan, too, though I haven't been to the downtown in quite awhile. Every year at Willamette Writers we'd take a cab into town for a fabulous dinner. This year the conference is on remote for out of town speakers.

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    2. Hallie, I'm sure locals can recommend wonderful new restaurants for the next time your writers group is in town. Downtown is not like it used to be, but there are many areas with cool eateries. Like Division St in SE and Alberta St in NE. I can't wait to go back myself and explore all the new places that have popped up.

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    3. Grace, the Powell's Books is amazing! Diana

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    4. Hallie and I will be on the same virtual panel this year at Willamette Writers, and if Hallie makes it back to town for an in-person conference I'll happily share some of my new favorites. I agree both Division and Alberta have some excellent and fun spots!

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  12. What fun, Emmeline! Congratulations on the book. I love to read books that are set in specific places and use many of the real sights and sounds one would encounter there, warts and all. I'm looking forward to reading your series.

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  13. I've never been to Portland, but I'm going there now via your books, Emmeline. Congrats on the new release! As for a group of enthusiasts, and just to be goofy here, how about a gaggle of grammar nerds who love the semi-colon...

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  14. My daughter, SIL, and two teen age grandkids live in SE. My SIL is a prof at Portland State U in SW. I haven't been to Portland in about 5 years with Covid. I love the city - especially all the wonderful coffee shops and bakeries, like Spella Coffee and Little Tea. I can't wait to go visit possibly late summer.

    Emmeline, I've read your first two books and look forward to this newest one!

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  15. Congratulations Emmeline! Your series sounds great! i love Portland and have never found any place I would rather live. My mom's family has been in the area since the 1850s. I was just at the Powell's on Hawthorne yesterday picking up my book group book, after a lovely hike at Herman Creek in the gorge. Everything is blooming and green right now, so lovely! We aren't having the usual Rose Festival rain (which makes me a bit apprehensive about the coming summer). The annual naked bike ride (another quirky Portland tradition) is coming up in August. I think it would be quite odd to come across them unexpectedly in a bar!

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    1. I actually dropped by the Hawthorne Powell's just last week! And I'm also concerned about the dry weather.

      For years, I joked about how someday, the Portland edition of the World Naked Bike Ride would ride past my house, but I said it in a very Charlie Brown and the Great Pumpkin way. And then it happened! Well, technically the ride was a block past my house but I could see it from my porch.

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    2. Naked bike ride?!? Clearly I live in the wrong part of the country. Though I have heard that there was a naked subway ride in NY. Or did I make that up?

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  16. I love when authors bring in the quirks of their surroundings. Sounds like Portland gives you a lot to choose from!

    Congratulations on the new book!

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  17. Congratulations Emmeline! This series sounds captivating and unique. Portland is certainly a special city especially with the abundance of bookstores and cafes. I would enjoy visiting them. Many times over the years a folksinger would be entertaining in the old days. I miss that.

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  18. I love this series! I'm on hold at the library for Flat White Fatality. I would love to walk into a coffee shop and see people playing board games everywhere. And I could be like, "Can I get in on the next round of Clue?"

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    1. That would be cool - great suggestion!

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    2. There's actually a board game/tabletop game brewpub opening in Portland later this year. :)

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  19. I love that Portlanders are so into books. Often when I am reading a book in a PDX coffee shop, total strangers will immediately ask - "What are you reading?" I love that!

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    1. I feel lucky to be in a city with so many excellent indie bookstores!

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    2. Indeed you are! I have to go quite a few miles to find a bookstore. Used to be there were several nearby.

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  20. Another day on JRW, another series to read! Yay!! My cousin lives in Portland, now I know why he loves it there! As for walking into a bar, I'd enjoy seeing a group of Rohan riders in full cosplay!

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    1. Hopefully they'd have horses! Even if they're the same sort of horses as the Portland Horse Project.

      (The Portland Horse Project is a group focused on preserving the sidewalk rings for horses. Now, you can find toy horses and other small animals attached to the rings. One of my neighbor's uses it to hold a rhino. :)

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    2. There's a unicorn attached to one of those rings in my neighborhood; and lots of spectacular, colorful horses.

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  21. Woo-Hoo! Another new series for me to enjoy! Congratulations on the new book, Emmeline! I can't wait to have a taste.

    I spent a lovely week in Portland back in 2008, with a whole day at Powell's and another day up on Mount Hood at the Timberline Lodge. It's a beautiful part of the world. One of my favorite memories actually centered on a coffee shop around the corner from the place where I was staying. I went in for my morning tea and pastry, and stepped out to find someone was moving a house down the street. An entire historic Craftsman bungalow was up on an oversized flatbed rig, inching down the street so slowly I imagine any knicknacks left on the mantel were hardly disturbed at all. The whole neighborhood turned out to watch the house go by and cheer it on its way to its new location. I loved that they were willing to move the house and preserve it, rather than simply tear it down for new development. Very Portland.

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    1. Yes, especially smaller homes today seem to get demolished and replaced by behemoths.

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    2. I, too, enjoy seeing houses be moved -- or lifted. A couple in my neighborhood were lifted and put on new foundations. They put in basement apartments and upgraded the foundations to current earthquake codes.

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  22. I walked into a pub in Houston a few years back and one long banquet table was full of Vikings. I had been to a lecture at the Houston Museum of Natural Science where I used to volunteer and they had been there too. A woman from Denmark lectured on restoring a Viking ship and building one to sail with a volunteer crew to retrace a voyage. Complete with an amazing video to watch. Not recommended if you get seasick. The group of Viking reenactors drove from somewhere in central Texas to attend the lecture and dine with the museum people. Very entertaining!

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    1. Were your Vikings related to an exhibit of the reconstructed long boat found a few years ago? The Cincinnati Museum of Natural History had that, with an excellent historical look at the real Vikings, who never wore the horned helmets. A friend is a professor of medieval religion at Xavier University, and she is also Finnish. She was thrilled with the authenticity of the exhibits.

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    2. This was purely a lecture and a movie; no exhibit. The movie showed the restoration of five sunken Viking ships found in a Danish fjord. They're now in a museum. Also the building of a longboat and the practice sessions learning to sail it. An open boat, no shelter, crew taking turns resting and rowing. And some crosswise currents so choppy some sailors were too sick to do anything but lie there or be evacuated. Our speaker was on that voyage and fortunately had a cast iron stomach.

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    3. The recovered bits of the longboat were arranged in a massive exhibit, with holographic fill-ins of the rest of the boat.

      In the early 1980s we were in Miami for a lecture and film shown by the US Navy veteran who was on the RA expedition with Thor Heyerdahl, on a reed raft across the ocean. I got seasick just watching the film!

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    4. Viking reenactors! Go figure! Here in Boston I was at a hotel with a Star Trek convention. And another time with people who dress up as animals. But my favorite was in Arizona with a dog show for St. Bernard dogs. The parking lot was unreal with dogs getting their hairs done.

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  23. Coffee culture - and everything that goes with it - makes me so sad I'm not a coffee drinker! I started on tea when I was in college and never developed the taste, although I love the smell - and coffee ice cream is the bomb!

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  24. I, like you, want to know what it was like before the pirates were limited to two songs? And why that bar?

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    1. The bar--which has since closed--was called The Maiden In The Mist, which is what I assume attracted the pirates. I miss it--their food was fantastic. Before the song limit, from what I remember, the pirates would sing all night. Which was great for the pirates but didn't make the place attractive to regular customers who wanted to socialize with friends.

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  25. Hi, Emmeline, As you know, I love this series! Ever since out signing at the Pen last year, I have
    recommended it to every coffee loving or Portland loving friend I know. Also, your title is brilliant.

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    1. I'm very biased, but I'm really happy with the titles of my series. (I've thought up all of them, too!)

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  26. Hi Emmeline! I loved Portland when I visited a few years ago and of course I loved Powell's! Your series sounds like such fun--I am going to dive in immediately!

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  27. Pat S. - We’re heading to Portland tomorrow for our son’s wedding! He and his fiancée moved to a suburb last June while she got her Masters from U of Portland. This will probably be the only time we don’t visit the downtown Powell’s, but we were there at Christmas so we’ve stocked up recently!
    As for what I’d like to see at a coffeehouse (where I would buy tea, Jenn!), I’m with the Broadway crowd.
    Congratulations on your latest book, Emmeline! I’m off to get the first book in the series.

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    1. Have fun at the wedding! Also--UP has a beautiful campus and I hope you had a chance to visit.

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  28. Intriguing. I visited Portland, several years ago, and Powell's Books . . . but saw no paddling witches or cosplay dolls. -- Storyteller Mary

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  29. I've never been to Portland and would really like to read more about it. If I came across a group in a coffee shop, I would like to happen upon a group of authors getting together with readers and discussing their books.

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    1. It could happen! Because the reverse of that is an author's dream... To encounter readers.

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  30. Emmaline, I've enjoyed your first two books so much and am looking forward to the third. My son lives in Portland and you've captured the spirit of the city so well. And the people of Portland can certainly keep your series going for a long time, so many interesting and fun groups doing what they love there!

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  31. Hello Emmeline! Great to hear about your series. I was in Portland at the age of 15 to look at Reed College, which I very much wanted to attend. I loved the classes I audited, but in 1969 I couldn't find a single student to talk to who wasn't stoned! I wasn't against smoking a little pot, but attending four years of college on drugs didn't strike me as a very good idea, so I decided with regret that I wouldn't fit in. I wonder what Reed is like now. And, while we're on a sixties theme, I'd like to walk into a Portland coffee shop and hear a Joan Baez sound-alike playing guitar and singing folk songs from her first five albums. I'd sit there singing along (very quietly) for hours.

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    1. For what it’s worth, Reed is considered to be a very good school. It’s campus in SE Portland is beautiful, too.

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  32. I like Star Trek, Star Wars, Marvel comics, cozy mysteries, music. Maybe a mishmash of all those. Thanks for the chance.

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  33. A group I would love to meet with would be a group of famous chefs. I love to cook and bake. cherierj(at)yahoo(dot)com

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  34. I love this series! I cannot wait to read Flat White Fatality! If I could walk into a bar and run into anyone I would have to say Robert Downey Jr. I love him!!!!

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  35. Always enjoy chatting with Emmeline at Malice Domestic and so great to see her spotlighted here. Congratulations again on the great series!

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  36. Oops! Didn't mean to be anonymous! Posting again: Always enjoy chatting with Emmeline at Malice Domestic and so great to see her spotlighted here. Congratulations again on the great series!

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    1. And I always enjoy the chance to chat with Art Taylor! :)

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