Monday, August 4, 2025

They Are Not Making Good Movies any More!

 RHYS BOWEN:: When I fly the 10 hours to England I usually enjoy catching up on movies I’ve missed during the last year. This time there was not one movie I wanted to watch. They were either too scary, too dumb or too sad. And I realized that most years recently there is not one movie that stays with me. La La Land was good. And happy. But there haven’t been many like the Last Exotic Marigold Hotel in recent years, which is the type of movie I want to watch on a flight.

I was thinking about this because Clare and Tim were telling me about their first date. They were both working at a homeless shelter in Mexico and they came across the border on their night off and went to the movies. They saw the Fisher King and discussed it all the way back across the border.



What a great movie that was. How deep and multi-layered and thoughtful. In my top ten list. Also another Robin Williams movie, The Dead Poet’ Society.

Off the top of my head I’d add to my top ten:

Out of Africa

Passage to India

A Room with a View

Casablanca

Enchanted April

And maybe Shakespeare in Love, Tea with Mussolini, Midnight in Paris, The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie

All intelligent stories with fabulous acting and wonderful scenery. I suppose this is what I want in a movie: to be taken somewhere, engaged, inspired and given a satisfying conclusion. They can be sad, if necessary. But no Marvel movies, no car chases or exploding buildings. Real people interacting in real ways about the human condition.

There haven’t been many of those recently, have there? I can’t even think of any in recent times. I confess to watching Mama Mia Two, even though it wasn’t as good. I enjoyed all the Harry Potters and the Lord of the Rings (though not as much as the books).

There haven’t even been any feel good light movies like Four Weddings and a Funeral.

So tell me, dear Reds, what do you want in a movie? Have you been disappointed recently? Is it just me getting old and crochety? What would be in your top ten?

JENN McKINLAY: I think streaming shows have taken the place of movies on flights. I know when I travel with the Hooligans, they download entire seasons of a series to watch on a flight. Imagine landing in London when you’re only halfway through Dept Q. Ack!  

Recently, I loved American Fiction but that could be because as an author it was so relatable. I think Oppenheimer and Barbie were interesting – especially as they came out together. But I hear you on the lack of substance in film. I can’t think of a recent film that I thought about for days afterwards. Movies that have always resonated with me (just to name a few) are Field of Dreams (that writer angle again), Romancing the Stone (oops, writer again), and Raising Arizona (phew, no writer in sight!). LOL. I do skew towards adventure and comedy and writers, apparently. 

HALLIE EPHRON: Fresh off a roundtrip from Boston to San Francisco I have to agree, there was nary a movie on offer that I wanted to see. 

But at home I’ve found that I relish going to an actual *movie theatre*! With friends. Out for dinner after to discuss the plot points. 

Some movies need a big screen… or maybe it’s the audience around you reacting, too? WICKED was great in surround sound. Ditto BARBIE. And the audience empathy for THE LIFE OF CHUCK added a dimension to a wonderful movie.

Now, I confess, I want to see SUPERMAN. But there’s not much else. And I agree with 

Jenn, the small screen has replaced the large. 

HANK PHILLIPPI RYAN: I love to go to the movies, love love love. But we have not been since..Bernstein?  That can’t be true, but maybe. But these days it’s rare to have a movie that will have the draw to convince me not to simply wait until it’s on TV. 

Movies I could watch forever? Working Girl. The Godfather.  North by Northwest. The Shawshank Redemption. My Cousin Vinny.  Oh, and Born Yesterday. And The Man Who Invented Christmas. One more–Sullivan’s Travels.

(and sure, I  want to see Superman. But not enough to go to the theater. And on planes, yeah, there’s nothing. I sometimes sneak and allow myself to watch ONE Project Runway before I go back to work.)



JULIA SPENCER-FLEMING: The last movie I saw in a theater was also one that stuck with me for a long time - THE CONCLAVE. Celia, and I talked about that one for days! And, Like Hallie, I saw BARBIE in the theater with Virginia, and loved how it turned out to be a funny candy-colored musical with SO MUCH to say about culture and misogyny and body image and accomplishment, etc, etc, etc. 

I enjoyed the first “phase” of Marvel movies from 2008 to 2012, in part because they were an every-summer family thing for us - we’d all go together and hash out the plot holes (or at least, I would.) They became less and less engaging, sadly; the last one I watched was in 2018. 

I think I mentioned a few weeks ago I’ve been streaming movies from the 70s, and I’m continuing to find great films I really enjoy. You have to get used to the pace; many of them unfold more slowly, or spend more time on individual scenes, than movies of today. And now, reading over what I wrote, I see I’m a living example of how fragmented the movie watching habits of Americans have become!

LUCY BURDETTE: We saw Conclave and the Bob Dylan movie in the little Tropic Cinema in Key West–enjoyed them both. I do want to see THE LIFE OF CHUCK and MATERIALISTS.

I totally agree about the shows on flights. I hardly ever watch anything new–just old favorites like THE DEVIL WEARS PRADA or TOOTSIE or SLEEPLESS IN SEATTLE. John is very good about downloading shows–I try but then I can’t figure out where they’re stored!

DEBORAH CROMBIE: We haven’t seen anything in the theater in ages. We are just too spoiled with our big TV–and getting to break movies up into two or three segments, with bathroom breaks etc., because they all seem to be three hours these days. And there’s seldom anything I can’t wait to see. 

I agree with Rhys on shows on flights. If it’s something good or that I haven’t seen, do I really want to watch it on the in-flight screen with bad sound? I will watch series, usually comedy, or cooking shows. Something totally non-demanding.

We have been on a 70s movie streak at home, inspired by the anniversary of JAWS and by watching THE OFFER streaming series about the making of THE GODFATHER, neither of which I had seen!! I must have been living in a cave in the 70s!

I loved JAWS!! Such fabulous filmmaking! I can’t think of anything new that’s similar and that doesn’t feel tired. And THE GODFATHER, oh my goodness, although I’m not sure I would have enjoyed it quite so much if I hadn’t seen THE OFFER first. I highly, highly recommended THE OFFER, btw. A fascinating look at Hollywood in the 70s, great writing, acting, and cast.

RHYS:  Oh, yes .I forgot about Conclave. It was outstanding. And of course I could rewatch those oldies like Devil Wears Prada. But I don't like car chases, explosions and I find that the sound in theaters is overwhelming for me these days. I know, I'm getting old and crabby.  But what about you, Reddies? Have you seen any good movies recently? What are your all time favorites?

PS: I'm speaking with the Poisoned Pen bookstore today at 5 pm Pacific Time. You can watch on the store's Facebook page.  See you there!


23 comments:

  1. We don't get to the movies too often . . . I did see WICKED with my daughter and grandsons and enjoyed it. With the younger grandchildren we saw JURASSIC PARK REBIRTH and ELIO. The Jurassic Park movie was okay; ELIO was really good . . . .

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  2. I agree with JENN about streaming entire TV seasons on recent long-haul flights.
    I watch the 10 episodes of the Day of the Jackal on the 16-hour flight from Vancouver-Singapore & 14-hour flight back from Hong Kong.
    The only movie I enjoyed watching on one flight was A COMPLETE UNKNOWN with Timothée Chalamet as Bob Dylan.

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  3. I never watch anything on flights. There's too much ambient sound, and it's not a good experience. I either write or read.

    Conclave was great, ditto Barbie, both in the theater. We watched Oppenheimer at home so we could do it in two sessions. Rhys, I agree about big movie theater sound. We mostly go to a screening room in the next town, a much more intimate setting but still a big screen. I've never seen a Marvel film, but wish I'd caught A Complete Unknown.

    I wish I remembered names. The movies that stick with me are mostly quieter European films. We saw the loveliest French one last year about a couple who cook together, with Juliet Binoche (I would watch her read the phone book...). When Hugh gets home from the market, I'll ask him the name, and which other movies we've seen recently. He's my memory on things like that.

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    1. The Taste of Things, Edith? I've been wanting to watch that.

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    2. Yes, The Taste of Things! 2023. SO beautiful and passionate.

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    3. Absolutely my kind of movie!

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  4. I tend to track the flight on the in-screen tv for my entertainment. The last movie I saw at the theater was Superman and I actually enjoyed it. We saw the 3-D version. Other than that, I wait for the movies to come to streaming. I prefer action movies.

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  5. These days I only watch movies when we visit with Rachel and John and their boys in Delaware. I have enjoyed some of the cartoons ( UP and MINIONS) and of course some of the Marvel movies are terrific. Before the pandemic, I loved all the Harry Potter and LOTR films. And there are lots of classics that I loved, too. But I just don't want to watch TV or movies anymore.

    I read a lot. I am a very slow reader because I read all of the words. It's probably why the pace of audiobooks doesn't frustrate me like it does some people.

    When I came to this community, I was already in my 70's and had read very little mystery and almost no romance. Jenn's romances turned that around very quickly and once I'd read hers, the genre opened up in front of me. Wow. Here on JRW, I realized the wealth of mystery that I had missed. When the Reds, or Ann, or Grace or Karen talk about authors that they enjoy, I want to know more. And all the regular contributors who recommend authors and books, especially if they describe something that I know I'll like... there just isn't enough time to catch up. I want to be part of those conversations much more than I want to watch TV or movies. So, I will go to the movies if someone insists. But, I'll be reading on that flight.

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    1. What a lovely tribute to our members and we’re so glad you are part of this community, Judy

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  6. Not sure what the last movie was that I saw in a theater. It might have been A Dog's Purpose with my sobbing family. I haven't flown anywhere in 20 years so no in-flight movies I can talk about. But my son flies often and sees movies that way and in theaters and then he recommends them to me which is how I saw Conclave, which I enjoyed and Oppenheimer, which I did not. Up until several months ago I enjoyed the offerings on Turner Classic Movies but lately there has been nothing I want to watch, or if there is a good one, I already saw it fairly recently so wouldn't want to watch it again.

    Yesterday I went shopping with my grandson and while stopped at a red light I glanced at the movies that were playing. None interested me but I was surprised it showed Naked Gun. Didn't that come out 30 years ago or so, I asked the boy. He is fourteen and has no idea. I've since learned it is a remake, of course, which I had not heard. I remember the original being stupid-funny but I might be thinking of Airplane.

    AARP has a list of Movies for Grownups which I just remembered about. I suppose it might be worth a look.

    However, mostly I would still rather read a book!

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    1. So many movies are remakes! Are there no good new scripts coming in?

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  7. All-time fave: Moonstruck.

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  8. I don't go to the theater much anymore. I'd rather just wait for it to come on my TV streaming services at home. But I did go see Fantastic Four: First Steps last week and I rather enjoyed it. It wasn't perfect but it has been a far cry better than a lot of the most recent Marvel Cinematic Universe movies. (Not counting Thunderbolts* since I haven't seen that one yet and I hear good things).

    I can't talk about offerings on a plane since I don't fly. But I do agree with the idea that streaming has replaced movies these days. Small screen over large seems to be the way most are going.

    I don't have an official Top 10 movie list but I do keep The Silence of the Lambs at the top of any potential list I might draw up. The Shawshank Redemption and Hoosiers would be on the list too.

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  9. Rhys, I’m with you - no car chases, no exploding buildings. Also as little violence as possible. The last movie we saw “at the movies” was “A Complete Unknown” which both of us really liked. I don’t like the previews-way too loud. We flew over to London and back from Edinburgh in May and I read, and tracked the flight, and slept. I brought 4 books with me, all paperbacks that I could leave behind. No movie offered that was worth watching on that little screen.

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  10. Rhys, I am with you, especially watching movies on planes. When flying, I do Not want to see movies with car crashes, plane crashes or any form of violence. I joke that I am such a "movie snob" because I am quite picky about movies that I watch. Growing up, we watched many movies including silent films and old movies made before I was born. My tastes in movies have been influenced by these. We also watched foreign films like the Tall Blonde Man with One Brown? Black? Shoe.

    Movies that I loved: THE HOLIDAY with Jack Black, Jude Law, Kate Winslet and Cameron Diaz; ENCHANTED APRIL, and British costume dramas. These days I watch Streaming Movies. I love watching Christmas movies on Hallmark channel (when the television is working).

    On planes, I rarely watch movies since there is the lack of subtitles. However, I had this wonderful experience before 9/11. This rarely happens. I was flying home from England and to my surprise, the movies offered on the plane included foreign films. It meant that I could watch movies with English subtitles. In London, I had just seen this Spanish movie that had not been released in the States Yet. On the plane they showed the same movie again and I was happy to watch it again.

    Cannot recall the last movie I watched in the theater before the pandemic.

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    1. I adored both of your favorites, Diana and sometimes watch foreign films on planes

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  11. I love going to the movies. I even went during the pandemic, just to support the theaters. It's a good sign that some of the expensive movies (the new Jurassic Park, Fantastic Four, Superman) did well. That's how the studios pay their bills. So maybe they will take some of that money and fund some non-dino, non-super hero movies. I agree with Jenn about tv taking that space, but nothing beats sitting in a theater with other people and enjoying a movie while eating popcorn and peanut M&M's. I'll never give it up!

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  12. We don't go to the movie theater much. The last one was "The Naked Gun," only because a) I had not been to our local theater and b) it was finally something we were willing to spend money on. It was stupid - but it was that type of movie.

    Friday nights are for rom-coms (date night). Saturdays are for action (last Saturday was "The Hitman's Bodyguard"). Because we watch streaming, we tend to find older movies. I think current ones are going through a creativity draught.

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  13. I find as I grow older that I struggle with so many of the films made today. So much violence and comedy that is too "hard core" for me to comprehend. That's not to say there haven't been some pleasant surprises along the way such as "Conclave" mentioned above. Most of the time I enjoy a lot of the foreign films and British movies that don't always get much publicity in the mainstream. We catch a lot of those films at the Plimoth/Patuxet Museum which has two lovely cinemas. Admittedly both my husband and I love James Bond movies. We have seen each and every one of them from Connery to Craig; my favorite Bond will always be Roger Moore because of his dry "never take me seriously" wit and funny faces. Those kind of action movies, along with the Indiana Jones series, bury the "violence" in pure fantasy. Plus their theme was always the same ~ good vs. evil and good wins out all the time. Not such a bad way to get lost for a few hours in film. There have, of course, been lots of serious moviemaking that I should mention but I still always seem to step away from the challenges of life depicted in movies and lean into lighter fare of romance and comedy. And happily ever after... :-) Films that I continue to watch over and over are all the Doris Day movies, the Meg Ryan and Tom Hank films "You've Got Mail" and "Sleepless in Seattle" (I can recite every line from that movie...lol) and there's a special place in my heart for "Somewhere in Time" with Christopher Reeve and Jane Seymour. Finally, when life gets a bit cranky with me and I need a real fix of jollies, joyfulness and laughter I watch "Peter Rabbit" ~ the one with James Corden as Peter. Animation especially all those great Looney Tunes of yesteryear can chase the blues away in a millisecond!

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