HANK PHILLIPPI RYAN: Hurray and hurray—we love Catriona day! She is incredibly talented, and incredibly wonderful, and we are always so delighted when she visits—especially with a new book. The brand new one is intriguingly titled The Dead Room. Can you guess why? I bet it is not what you think.) (And I have devoured it, and it is terrific.)
Anyway. Today, delightfully, she takes us on a very special journey. To CatrionaLand!
(And some very special info for you at the end!)
Blurred Lines
By Catriona McPherson
I quite often, when I’m writing a book, start with an interesting bit of reality and run. When I was beginning The Child Garden, finding out about rocking sones and devil’s bridges was utter catnip.
Rocking stones are neolithic, egg-shaped stones – some enormous – that sit in stone cups and, if shoved, rock. Now, as you can imagine if you consider how long ago neolithis (?) was, hardly any of them survive to . . . I tried hard not to say “rock on” here. I failed . . . because people get too enthusiastic and shove too hard. Then the stones tumble off down hills and break in riverbeds.
That much is true.
Devil’s bridges have nothing to do with rocking stones. They’re just bridges that happen to be in Scotland or Ireland and so, through no fault of their own, have gathered stories about how the devil and his minions can’t cross them, like a sheep gather burrs. The stories go on that the devil then lurks on one side or the other asking for soul swaps.
That much is also “true”. That is, I didn’t make these tales up. “Tam O’Shanter” is related and the devil has become an ordinary goat in some retellings.
But, at some point downstream, I put the stories of the stones and bridges together and I think I came up with a piece of folklore that rocking stones are found near devil’s bridges, and have devils trapped inside them. They have to be rocked every day – thirteen times, naturally – to keep him addled so he can’t escape. This now feels as real to me as leprechauns’ gold and Santa’s love of a chimney. And I’m not that great a note-keeper so I’m not entirely clear on where exactly I started making stuff up and what might be rooted in Celtic lore.
The same thing happened with the lowping stane (leaping stone) in The Witching Hour. It’s real. See pic. It’s outside the old school in the village of Dirleton. And I know for a fact that schoolchildren used to leap over it on the last day of school in the summertime, because it says so on the tourist information board in the old phone box with the wee free library.
In my book, what happens is the children are the only ones who still leap over it – with stinging nettles strewn on the top for extra peril – but it used to be the case that everyone in the village did so, right before harvest-time. The pure of heart would clear it. Witches and other evil-doers, though, would fail, stumble and hurt themselves. Thus the village could be sure that, when they all went out to bring in the crops, there would be no one whose wickedness would cause blight and famine.
Jungle Red Readers, I have no clue where the join is between the truth and Catrionaland in the middle of that. (And I’m writing this on a plane, en route to Malice, where I didn’t download the app before take-off so I can’t check.)
All of that is by way of excusing what’s just happened in The Dead Room. I used a real town, in a real county, in a real country, as the setting for the story. When I was done, I scrupulously (Ha!) laid out in the author’s note that Menstrie, Clackmannanshire, Scotland was real but that the property centre, the nursing home, the pub, the garden centre and the Lord family’s scrapyard business (Lord’s Will Provide!) were imaginary. I claimed that Sir Andy Murray’s gold postbox in Dunblane was the only actual location in the entire novel.
Then I sent out ARCs. And one early reader (with a story of his own (which I told for Kristopher Zgorski at BOLO Books on account of the musical theatre angle)) came back with an “Ummmmmm, Catriona? The scrapyard? Ehhhhhh, have you ever been to Sam Burns’ Yard in East Lothian? Because the similarity is uncanny.”
Yeek! I never miss a trip to Sam Burns’ Yard when I’m in Scotland. Of course it was there that I saw faded glass and china out in the elements filling with leaves and dust as the seasons passed. It was there I found out that hotel overstock mattresses are wrapped in plastic with the prices Sharpied on, and that the further back you go the more likely you are to find the skeletons of bikes and barrows poking up through long grass.
Of course Sam Burns’ Yard is better organised and doesn’t degenerate into the kind of outsize trail mix of dolls’ heads and door hinges you’ll find in Lord’s, no matter how far towards the back fence you meander. Still though. It’s the place I found the trove of mid-century bookclub hardbacks from the collection of one “T. Jolly”, as per the flyleafs, that wound up being central to the plot in Quiet Neighbors. It’s been very good to me and it deserved a mention.
Next time, I am going to keep scrupulous notes as I go along.
(Narrator from the future: she didn’t.)
HANK: Reds and readers, I cannot tell you what The Dead Room means. You will just have to read the book and find out. But let’s ask: which of the places Catriona mentions would you like to visit? And why?
Catriona McPherson (she/her) was born in Scotland and immigrated to the US in 2010. A former linguistics professor, she is now a full-time fiction writer and has published: preposterous 1930s private-detective stories; realistic 1940s amateur-sleuth stories (The Edinburgh Murders is latest); and contemporary psychothriller standalones (The Dead Room is the brand-new one). These are all set in Scotland with a lot of Scottish weather. She also writes modern comic crime capers about a Scot-out-of-water in a “fictional” college town in Northern California sneezedavissneeze. Scot’s Eggs, No. 8 just won for best humorous novel at Left Coast Crime in San Francisco. Her other novels have won Agathas, Anthonys, Leftys and Macavitys and been finalists for an Edgar, a CWA Dagger and three Mary Higgins Clark awards.
Catriona is a proud lifetime member and former national president of Sisters in Crime.
In this atmospheric thriller from Catriona McPherson, a young widow seeking refuge from her grief wades into the mists at the far end of memory lane—where something even darker awaits.
Reeling from the death of her husband, thirtysomething audiobook narrator Lindsay Hale retreats to her Scottish hometown and the comforts of old times. Her family rallies, her old friends offer support, but something is wrong . . . something beyond grief. Something she can only glimpse from the corner of her eye.
A new house should help, but why is she recognising strangers, forgetting familiar faces?
Every night, as Lindsay’s dream house fills with nightmares, she wonders whether she’s truly unravelling—or if something more sinister is at play. Buried secrets surface and reality bends, forcing Lindsay to face the terrifying truth that her hard-won haven isn’t so safe after all.
















Congratulations, Catriona, on your newest book . . . "The Dead Room" sound so intriguing and now I can 't wait to find out what it means!
ReplyDeleteWhich place would I like to visit? I think I'd like to see the leaping stone since it's tied to school and children . . . .
Dirleton is a lovely wee village, Joan. Well worth a trip.
DeleteCongratulations, Catriona! I need a whole weekend to immerse myself in your psychological thriller; that's what always happens when one of Hank's books comes out.
ReplyDeleteHave to admit right now I'm firmly--and happily--stuck in the world of Dandy Gilver. Just yesterday I discovered how many more books I get to read in the series!
Thank you, Becky. Isn't that the best? I read Linda Castillo and found out there were seventeen, which was heaven.
DeleteYay on the new book, Catriona! My copy is sitting on my coffee table, and as soon as I finish Rhys and Clare's new Molly, I'll be all about Dead Room. (I bet the name is related to the protag being an audio narrator, yes?)
ReplyDeleteI'd love to visit the junk yard. So many treasures.
I’d visit the leaping stone. It reminds me of the zodiac in the floor at the entrance to the Memorial Union at Iowa State University. One must walk around it and never across it or one will fail their next exam. And then my mind went from Dead Room to Dead Week…the week before final exams when everything except studying ceases.
ReplyDeleteCongrats on the new book.
Ugh, Brenda. You've reminded me of a rather nasty tradition in Edinburgh: that you spit on the the "Heart of Midlothian" that marks the spot oft he city gallows. It's quite horrible to walk past.
DeleteWow Catriona, this "research" and your inner world sound amazing! Cannot wait to read the book!
ReplyDeleteThe quote marks made me laugh, Lucy. I deserve them!
DeleteCongratulations on your new release.
ReplyDeleteDru! Thank you. And thank you for your support.
DeleteCongratulations on your latest tome.
ReplyDeleteTHE DEAD ROOM is a thumping good read and I have no idea whether I’ve reviewed it on Goodreads et al or not. But the rest of you mustn’t miss it.
It’s been a weird spring here, what with a heart attack and a cardio-rotorooting plus a couple of stents to keep things open. I promise to check for that review in the near future.
In the meantime keep writing and I’ll keep reading. Xo
Oh, my, Ann. Wishing you all good health!
DeleteAnn, don't you dare out that in your to-do list. I decree that you should A. get better B. hug that pup C. read more great books. Cxoxo
DeleteWelcome Catriona! I am at thrillerfest so I will be popping in from time to time, and reading all of your comments… Love love love
ReplyDeleteThanks, Hank. I'm thinking of you in that whirlwind. Cx
DeleteThis was so fun! Congrats on the new book! I know that feeling of not being sure if something is real or I dreamed it up. Sometimes I ask my sisters, because they always remember things differently. I would love to see Andy Murray's gold post box! Or try to rock a rocking stone (without sending it crashing, that would be too scary). I saw some standing stones in Scotland (Lewis & Orkney) but no rocking stones.
ReplyDeleteI think there a lot in some areas of France. They call them "menhirs" - no clue how to pronounce that in French - "mueh" maybe.
DeleteCatriona, congratulations on your new book. Your range of writing is just incredible, going from the hilarious sunny burbs of Southern California to dark, and dismal postwar Edinburgh to the atmospheric settings of your psychological thrillers. I am in awe. I'm with Edith on that trip to the junkyard.
ReplyDeleteThank you! My editor calls it "the brand's a mess". I'm just always amazed that no publisher asks me to use a pen name,
DeleteCatrionaLand sounds like a funhouse! Love that you have convinced yourself of your own mythologies so thoroughly that they seem real to you. Which means they are real to us, your readers.
ReplyDeleteHaving a filmmaker in the family, I agree with Edith about the dead room! But, are we right? Looking forward to reading the book to find out.
Sam Burn's Yard sounds and looks like a treasure trove! Who needs Aladdin's Cave?
Hi Karen. I found out quite late in the day that "scrapyard/junkyard" evokes old cars to a US ear. I'd never have written that book!
DeleteCongratulations Catriona! I've enjoyed all your previous stand-alones and I'm sure I'm going to love this one as well.
ReplyDeleteThank you, Liz. Hey and thanks again for stellar late stepping in to moderate at Malice.
DeleteIt was my pleasure!
DeleteSam Burns’ Yard for the wind! I love the nostalgia trip of seeing things from my mother’s kitchen and the juxtaposition of unrelated objects that can send your mind down an interesting path.
ReplyDeleteLooking forward to reading this now that I have finished my Hugo and Anthony nominations.
Oh Lisa, far be it from me to give you the hard sell but I will say that writing Lindsay's forays into the back of the yard was some of the best fun I've ever had.
DeleteCatriona, welcome back to JRW! It was wonderful to see you at LCC this year. Love your Dandy series and the Midwife series. The pub is a place I would love to visit. When I was preparing to study at Oxford, I stayed in a village outside Oxford for a week beforehand. We went to a pub and I was surprised that they allowed dogs! In the USA, they would not allow a dog inside unless it was a service dog.
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately dogs are allowed inside restaurants all over California now. Surprised you have not encountered them.
DeleteI just finished THE DEAD ROOM - fabulous! And I'm putting Sam Burns's Yard on my bucket list. Now that's a place I'd love to see.
ReplyDeleteThank you, Kait! I'll be there soon. I check the books first and then go looking for Stavangerflint pottery. And pine over the big old Victorian furniture I can bring home.
DeleteCatriona’s book is a great psychological mystery! I finished it yesterday and spent the rest of the day texting my mystery-reading friends to buy it! (Note: if you don’t have Kindle Unlimited, it’s still extremely affordable at $4.99 for the e-book on Amazon. I’m sure Catriona wouldn’t mind if you bought it in hardcover if you’re not a digital book reader!) Sam Burns’ Yard sounds intriguing, but I would rather visit the Rocking Stones. But if I never get to Scotland, visiting CatrionaLand would be exciting enough for me — Pat S
ReplyDeleteThank you, Pat. I know it was a departure and I'm glad you enjoyed it. I actually downloaded the Kindle version - to help my sales and because it felt weird not to - but I don't own an ereader, so it's in the ether somewhere . . .
DeleteHi Catriona!! Always such a treat to see you here! I'd already bought The Dead Room and cannot wait to dive into it. I think I couldn't resist Sam Burns's Yard.
ReplyDeleteYou definitely couldn't, Deb. If you're not someone who starts itching at the very thought of secondhand stuff (and some do) then it's a real Aladdin's cave.
DeleteThankfully Kindle Unlimited came through, Catriona. (Welcome, glad you're with us). I am on Chapter 3 already and I love Peggy. It appears that this might be the summer of Catriona on Nome St. Between laughing my self silly with your comedies, and hiding under the covers with your suspenseful page turners, I will be enchanted. Happy me. What's next?
ReplyDeleteHm well, Peggy-lover, I don't want to spoil things *too* much, but I do want to say keep reading and keep hoping. I'm reading a debut cozy I found at Malice because the author was up for an Agatha. It's set in a board-game shop, peopled with absolute nerds, which is not my world at all but I'm loving it. PLAYER ELIMINATION by Shelly Jones.
DeleteFinally up and at it here on the West Coast. (We drove back very late from a trip to the Oregon Shakespeare Festival last night.) Thank you for having me back, Hank and the Reds. Now I'm off to read the comments. Cx
ReplyDeleteIt's the rocking stones for me! I'd love to see them before some idiot smashes them all. When you mentioned junk yard, I thought of where cars go to die. But your yards sound like real treasure troves. The new book sounds great!
ReplyDeleteI know! I'm still not entirely sure what you would call what I call a junkyard. A perpetual yard sale? A fleamarket? I hope no petrolheads buy the book hoping to be reading about squashed cars.
DeleteCatrionaland brings to mind the question, "What do you want heaven to be like?" Well, like Catrionaland would be a an excellent candidate for eternity, along with your family and friends there. Hank is so on target when she says that Catriona is incredibly talented, incredibly wonderful, and an absolute delight. Who wouldn't be happy to live in Catrionaland. Whether it's a post like today, a speech, an interview, a book, or a conversation with her, Catriona brings to everything she does a spellbounding atmosphere that captures her audience until the end, and then the audience is breathless and waiting for more. Congratulations of your new book, Catriona. I am still the turtle trying to crawl back to reading like I used to, but The Dead Room is on my bed, where all books go that will be read soon.
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