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Wednesday, April 22, 2020
Getting an Agent: When Luck Meets Opportunity - a guest blog by Regan Rose

Monday, September 16, 2019
My Favorite Part of Writing
LUCY BURDETTE: Jenn! I never considered the fact that we might be twins, but it's true! I am revising THE KEY LIME CRIME (so many good ideas--why didn't I think of this!) and trying to hammer out food critic #11, and trying to come up with another plot for a women's fiction. Edits are so rewarding, whereas first drafts are murder. It's not only the words that are hard, it's plot points and character motivations. Everything from scratch. On the edited KL Crime, I've already done my best to map all that out. And now a talented editor is saying "this section is perfect" (occasionally) or "not sure this follows, will the reader find it too much coincidence?" And then offering solutions. It's really very gratifying, unless you get stuck with a lousy editor. But that's another blog...
HALLIE EPHRON: My favorite part of writing is *having written*. First draft is definitely the toughest. Excruciating. But once I've got something down there, no matter how bad it smells, I'm a happy camper. Revision--I'm with Lucy and Jenn--it's the best part. Page proofs? I need to read it aloud to keep myself focused, but I'd rather be doing them any day over first draft. And I'm blessed with a terrific editor. I may not want to hear her say "But but but..." but she's always right.
RHYS BOWEN: My favorite part is toying the that tiny germ of story long before I write anything down. Venice. A small legacy. A secret life. Where would she have lived? What would she have done? Gradually filling in the jigsaw pieces in my mind before I write a word. Then I start to write and every book is exactly the same. The first fifty pages are pure panic, sure it will be a disaster, a failure, a story I won't be able to complete. And then by page 100 I see a glimmer of light ahead. By 200 I'm skipping merrily along to the end, knowing where I'm going (almost). I enjoy revisions and final polish. I usually dislike copy edits because most copy editors do not confine themselves to commas and repeated words but suggest to me how sentences should be written. Stet is often used.
DEBORAH CROMBIE: I love the idea of a book, when you can feel the characters and the setting moving in the shadows, and the book could still be the most brilliant and perfect thing I've ever written. I like the first third or half, too, the set up, discovering the characters I hadn't known would come along. The last half is hard. A slog, and against the clock, not sure I can tie everything together and make it work. Revisions with my editor are fun. She has great suggestions and I always know the book will be the better for it. Copy edits are a pain, but necessary. Page proofs, just shoot me. None of which really answers your question, Jenn. It's all up and down, and often blind panic.
HANK PHILLIPPI RYAN: Blind panic is a good description, love that, and am glad it's not just me. I love having that moment of realizing- OH! What a good idea! And the first three chapters or so bloom like gorgeous weeds. Then, the looming wall. Now what? Working without an outline I go hand over hand, word by stinkin word, knowing that if I just persevere, I will find the story. It's simple addition, right? Just keep writing.
When I am through the horrible endless middle, and then get the first ending, and then the second, and then I think, okay, there's a terrific book in there somewhere! And then, hideous but beloved first draft finished, I have to find it. They key is--for me--not to be afraid. It has worked 11 times, and it will work again.
Then my darling brilliant editor gets it, and reads it, and then and tells me...things. And I think--yes! Why didn't I think of that stuff? And I plow into revisions with the joy of the re-energized. So, short version: I love the revisions. LOVE. Because as a result of my editor, I create things I would never have thought possible. That the final book is SO different from the first draft is my life preserver. Don't worry, I tell myself. Trust the process.
JULIA SPENCER-FLEMING: I am not a fan of revisions. One of the reasons I'm a slow writer is that I tend to craft my sentences, paragraphs and chapters to be pretty much exactly the way I want. Of course, for HID FROM OUR EYES, written over five years, I needed so many revisions, I've lost track of the number of times my editor and I bounced the manuscript back and forth. Every time it was like the Kubler-Ross stages of dying; denial ("There's nothing wrong with this scene!") Anger ("Dammit, why is he picking on me?") Bargaining ("Okay, I'll do one scene, but I won't add a whole new chapter." Depression ("I'll never be done with this book and my life is over." and finally acceptance (Actually, these suggestions really do make the story much stronger.")
My favorite part is what I'm doing now for the Untitled Clare and Russ No. 10, what I call the pen on paper stage. I noodle out ideas, themes, sketch out possible characters, list who wants what and what is the worst thing I can do to this character. I'm doing the starting research, getting just enough to inspire parts of the story, not having to fill in every detail as I will toward the end of the book. It's the Platonic Ideal stage of the book, all bright possibility untrammeled by the actual, you know, writing down words part.
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Monday, March 31, 2014
What we're writing: Tales from Hallie's OUT file
Not writing a draft, that is. Three weeks ago I sent my editor a the finished manuscript for Night, Night, Sleep Tight. A few days ago I got an email back, and I quote: "This is my FAVORITE of all your books. I LOVE IT." Her caps.
And I thought, OF COURSE!
I began writing this novel two long
But honestly? If my editor had written me and said, "Uh oh. I hate to say this, but it's just not that good..." I would have believed it.
Instead of toasting myself with Prosecco Bellinis and baking a celebratory pineapple upside down cake, I'd be flagellating myself with recriminations and saying, "I knew it was terrible. What ever made me think I could write a novel?"
I might even have highlighted the entire 309-page manuscript and dumped the whole thing into my OUT file which is already 229 pages long.
Every novel I write has an "OUT" file. It's where I put the stuff I write and then delete. Plot twists that go nowhere useful. Characters I no longer need. Overwritten description. Underwritten description. Passages that are too dark or too snarky or just plain boring.
This is why it takes me so long to finish a novel. Even though I outline, when I go to write it I'm constantly second-guessing myself, taking out, revising, doing what I hope amounts to making it better but sometimes only making it shorter.
So today I thought I'd entertain you with an excerpt from my OUT file.
Here's a passage from what I thought would Page One of the novel but which now lives in the OUT file. Back then, the main character was named Beth (she's now Deirdre.) She was living in New York (now she's in San Diego.) And she's received an invitation to attend her 20th Beverly Hills High School reunion (the entire reunion is gone from the book).
Beth hasn't been back to Beverly Hills, never mind her old high school, for ages. The prospect of seeing girls she went to school with brings back a flood of unpleasant memories.
From my OUT file:
The invitation to Beth’s 20th Beverly Hills High School reunion came on a Saturday. Don’t miss this evening and chance to visit with “old friends."Can you tell this comes from experience? Which is why I had to take it out. Because this did not turn out to be a book about me. It did not turn out to be about not fitting in in high school. And the fictional main character I created evolved so much over the course of writing the novel that she no longer sounded like this.
Her gut twisted just thinking about it. Up came memories of shoes—that’s what growing up there had been about. This seemed perfectly ludicrous in retrospect, and even back in 1961 she'd known that getting Those Shoes wouldn’t make her fit in. And yet in ninth grade, what she lusted after,dreamed about, obsessed over were baby-blue, pink, or avocado-green ballerina flats with a T-strap low across the instep and three petal-shaped cutouts over the toe. They were made by Pappagallo.
Sure, you could get knock-offs at Chandlers a few blocks away, but they weren’t soft and supple, and they didn’t flex when you wiggled your toes. Even Beth could have spotted wannabe shoes, though the term wannabe had yet to be invented in what would be 90210 when they got around to using zip codes.
Still, I love those paragraphs so I shall keep them for perpetuity rather than wipe them out completely. Maybe one day I will write something it fits into.
I did, in fact, go to my twentieth high school reunion. I wore a blue flowered shirtwaist dress and the popular girls were there in short-short lace baby-doll dresses and footless tights. I felt like a piece of outsider art.
Which brings me to today's question: What were "those shoes" at your high school, the object of desire that seemed to separate the kids who had it all from the rest of us?
Tuesday, September 4, 2007
A Writer's Hit List
"You simply keep putting down one damn word after the other, as you hear them, as they come to you." -- Anne Lamott (Bird By Bird)
HALLIE: It is that simple, when you start a manuscript. But it's got to be a lot more than that when you send it out. When I was at Killer Nashville, a great mystery conference a couple of weeks ago, I sat on a panel with agent Donna Bagdasarian and acquiring editor Maryglenn McCombs. Kelly/PJ Parrish moderated a fascinating discussion of why an agent/editor/reviewer stops reading.
It was lovely to vent some spleen.
Here's the list:
- Profligate use of adverbs
- Bad grammar, syntax, you know the drill
- Failing to follow manuscript submission guidelines
- A predictible plot
- Wooden dialogue
- Too many characters
- Too many subplots
- No main character or main plot--no backbone to the novel
- An ending that just happens, as opposed to the protagonist making it happen
- Too many killers
- Violence or sex that's overly explicit and gratuitous
- Sliding point of view
- Zigzagging timelines
- Purple prose
- Too much backstory too soon
HANK: Now on page 205 of a first draft that I sometimes love and sometimes want to throw RIGHT INTO THE TRASH. Putting down one word after the other. And perfect timing, Hallie, to give me such a perfect list of Ephron Don'ts.
May I add another to your list? One I am battling right now? Coincidence.
This is true: I had been thinking about this friend, a woman I ran into in line at a restaurant a few weeks ago. A person I rarely see. Her son was going off to college, she had told me then. Yesterday, I wondered, sort of randomly, how he was doing. Then I went to a grocery store, not even our usual grocery store, and there she was. Now, that really happened. But if it had been a scene in a book, you'd say--oh, please. She just HAPPENED to see her in the grocery store?
When coincidences, authors' coveniences, happen in books, it just drives me crazy. But on the other hand, coincidences happen. So what makes a chance occurence believable and clever? And what makes one a gimmick that would have Hallie and Donna and Maryglenn throwing the book across the room?
RO: One thing that turns me off - jeez, I hope I'm not guilty of doing it - is too much dialogue. Too much "he said, she said" is like following a ping pong match. It's challenging to find the right balance. Sometimes I really enjoy writing snappy dialogue, but too much of it feels like a screenplay and not a book.
JAN: Sometimes I think that for me, being so damn auditory, it's all in the voice. If I like the attitude of the narrator and rhythm of the sentences and the last lines of the chapter, I'm likely to forgive the author anything. If I find the narrator dull, self-important or a bit too preachy, I turn off, even if the images and the prose are flawless.
But I guess the only thing I absolutely can't tolerate is bad dialogue. Especially exposition in dialogue. Cliche or stiff dialogue is tough sledding, but long-winded stiff or cliche dialogue is the worst. When I teach a class in writing dialogue, I tell students that if they don't have an ear for dialogue (which not everyone does) just to keep it short. That covers a lot of sins.
HALLIE: I agree...or, as E. B. White said, "I know when something is right because bells begin ringing and lights flash."