Sunday, July 2, 2023

Sharing a Little Research

DEBORAH CROMBIE: I've had ten days in London, with another nine-ish to go, so I thought I'd share some of the highlights of this trip so far. Of course I've had a research agenda for the book-in-progress, as well as revisisting some much-loved and always useful places.

Writers sometimes get crazy ideas. (Well, maybe more than sometimes...at least in my case.) For reasons that pertain to the plot, I was interested in setting parts of the book along the Thames, west of London. I can't seem to get away from water and boats--maybe too much reading of The Wind in the Willows as a child! But everything about the Thames fascinates me. Did you know that the Thames is tidal as far up as Teddington Lock? And that seals have been sighted as far west as Richmond? 

When I started investigating that part of the river, I discovered that there's an island in the river at Twickenham (west of Richmond) called Eel Pie Island. 



It's only accessible via a footbridge over the river, and is famous for its boatyards and artists studios. The island was home to a popular inn from the 1750s and it's thought the name most likely comes from the popular eel pies served there. 



But it's perhaps most notorious for the Eel Pie Island Hotel, a genteel 19th century venue that hosted jazz bands in the 1920s and 1930s, then, under new ownership in the 1960s, some of the most famous acts in rock-n-roll history. The Rolling Stones played there, the Who, the Yardbirds, Jeff Beck, Pink Floyd--the list goes on! By 1970 Eel Pie had become the largest hippie commune in the UK.

But, alas, that little bit of paradise was short-lived. The hotel grew increasingly run down, the owner couldn't afford the repairs, and in 1971 the place burned down in a mysterious fire.

The island still has a sort of arty-hippy vibe, and it's wonderfully atmospheric. Walking the green-arched footpath through the center feels like being in a secret world. But the best thing is that it's just exactly what I was imagining, but better. 


We will see where this bit of research leads! 

As a bonus, I went to Richmond and got to visit some Ted Lasso haunts. Here's the Prince's Head, which Ted Lasso fans will know as the Crown and Anchor.


I didn't go in for a drink as it was packed! The show has been a big boon for business in Richmond.

I've also been back to Little Venice, another setting from the book-in-progress, and was glad to see that I've got things right in the book so far. I feel very precariously balanced, however, between having accomplished some things and having so much more to do, with the days flying by. And of course I don't know what unanticipated things I'll need to know as I get farther along in the book.

The flip side of that is knowing that unplanned things; Romeo and Juliet, a trip to west Sussex, a trip to Bath, the horrible Friday night traffic in the West End, a croque monsieur in Covent Garden, may well have their parts to play, too.

REDS and readers, have you written or read about someplace you didn't know, and then found that the real thing more than lived up to expectations?

(The first place that popped into my mind was Oxford.)




38 comments:

  1. Your research sounds quite fascinating, Debs . . . I’m looking forward to seeing how it all fits together in your book.

    I haven’t done a lot of traveling, but we recently spent a few days in New York City and had the opportunity to explore Ellis Island and the Statue of Liberty . . . an amazing experience that more than lived up to my expectations . . . .

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  2. What a wonderful trip, Debs. Eel pie - who knew?

    I had a research trip to Santa Barbara in 2019 that gave me so much detail for a book I set there. During last fall's research trip to the Alexander Valley north of San Francisco, I also picked up the kinds of small bits for this fall's book I'd never have learned from staying home - the way a thick fog can fill half the valley, the look and feel of a controversial newish casino high on a hill, all the things that can become deadly in a wine production facility, and so much more.

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  3. Thanks for sharing this research. It sure sounds like a lot of fun. I can't wait to read the book.

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  4. Deborah, in the first book I wrote, which now lives in a drawer...you know —-that drawer, I’d set part of it in New York. I’m Canadian and decided to take a trip there to ‘research’ and see the city again. First thing, I walked a route I had my kidnapper take and when I got to the cross street at 5th Avenue where he turned left in his van I saw the sign, No Left Turn! So I had to rethink that. Then, when he got onto 5th I had him turn down the side of Trump Tower and park underneath there. I trotted inside, this was years ago, before... you know... and asked the doorman where the building parking was. He looked at me as if I was mad and said ‘No public parking under this building except for Mrs. Trump.’ So at that time if you lived there in those expensive apartments you had to park on the next block. I dare say it’s different now. But again, I had to improvise! Thanks for the interesting article and the great pictures. Joyce Woollcott.

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  5. I've been to wonderful London numerous times and never knew about Eel Pie Island! How did that happen?
    Wonderful report Debs!

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  6. DEBS: How cool is Eel Pie Island? I am looking forward to reading about it and Little Venice in your upcoming book(s).

    I agree with you about Oxford. After reading Sayers and Colin Dexter's Inspector Morse books, my first trips seeing Oxford IRL in the 1980s was magical.

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  7. What a lovely post! Of course it brings to mind Ewan MacColl's song Sweet Thames Flow Softly https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmn5pOxb2iM.

    When I was a teen, one of the first romances I read was mom's copy of The Middle Window by Elizabeth Goudge. When I visited the Highlands and Islands of Scotland and especially the Hebrides, I thought frequently of Goudge's descriptions of the austere and timeless landscape.

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  8. I can hear those wheels turning in your imagination, Deborah! Can't wait to read this book and see all these new places through the lives of your characters! I was born and raised in northern Ohio. close to Lake Erie, where the glaciers rolled over and sat on the land long enough to flatten it out. One of my first research trips to southern Ohio (my research was prehistoric Native Americans), along the winding Scioto River, watching the valley widen and hills rise along its flanks to east and west, forests rippling as far as I could see--that fired my imagination for sure!

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    1. Flora, my husband made a film for the government about the Muskingum Watershed Conservancy District, years ago. I went with him for the biggest part of his time there, and was blown away by the beauty of the region. So different from the rest of Ohio west of there.

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  9. Your photo of the footbridge to Eel Island put is squarely on my list of places to visit! Wonderful.

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  10. Debs, oh boy would I love to be tagging along... best of all inside your brain as the pieces fall into place. Do you voice record as you go?

    For me a place that more than lived up to its hype: the Bosque del Apache - a vast marshy protected area south of Albuquerque where snow geese and storks spend the winter. Get there before dawn and witness tens of thousands of birds wake up and rise in unison off the water. I'd also add Zabriskie Point (also at dawn).

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    1. Hallie, I started following their Facebook page after Steve went there to photograph several years ago. One of these days I want to see it in person, too.

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  11. How about one that was so unexpected and one that was such a disappointment. Disappointment – Stonehenge. How can you spell borr-ii-nn-gg? I did however, enjoy watching the sheep in the other field, learned how to make a stile (for the sheep), and loved all the Rhodo’s on the highway to get there.
    Surprised – also Oxford. I don’t think I went in with preconceived ideas, tho we were enjoying Morse at the time, but memories of that city are just happiness. I brought home a Brown Betty teapot, so can enjoy those memories often.
    In Canada, we went on a boat cruise to Les Iles de la Madeleines, a small island off Prince Edward Island. It was a beautiful day, and the best memory for me of the trip.
    Did you get to eat any eel pie?

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  12. I love Eel Pie island! Can't wait to see it up close and personal.

    I don't write about places I haven't visited (something about the light and the smells I have to get correct). But I do remember an absolute sense of wonder when I went through the prehistoric caves in SW France. And I'm putting that experience to good use right now.

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    1. Margaret, the first place that came to mind was Lascaux Cave in Dordogne, I had read about it but , even now, I can’t describe how I felt when I visited it. Magical !
      Danielle

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  13. So many amazing sights and sites on this planet. Yellowstone. The Galapagos. The great cypress swamps of our southeastern states. Big Sur. The vast Serengeti Plains where you can literally see millions of animals in a few days. The view from the Eiffel Tower. Venice. Vermont in winter. Aspen in summer. Hawaii, period. Our big blue marble has so many natural wonders, and then man goes and makes more in the form of buildings and bridges and soaring steeples.

    Debs, thanks for taking us along to Eel Pie Island and all points British. What a history the island has!

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  14. Seven years ago this week I became a member here. Posts like yours, where we see a work grow from the idea to the actual book convinced me to stick around. And now I have another literary place to hang out.. Nuff about me.. thank you Debs for taking us along with your visit. I doubt that I will ever see the UK in person. However I can see it with Gemma et al whenever I pick up one of your titles. Many thanks.

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  15. I don't think I've ever had an experience like that but I appreciate your descriptions and pictures. I hope I can find them when I finally get to read your book, whenever that is. Will your pictures all be posted someplace where we can see them?

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  16. This is like a mini-tour. England is a future destination for me. Years ago, the only time I read about Croatia was when it was ‘war torn’. When we visited, we found it to be beautiful, historic and great to explore. Liked it so much, we did more exploring 3 years later.

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  17. What a trip! Thanks for taking us along. I am so eager to see your next book that I am sure I will become obnoxious asking for updates! It's fascinating to me to see all these places that you discover and explore, find their way seamlessly into your stories. That squeak you hear from Connecticut is me cheering!

    As for literature and place, Christine Carbo's stories of Glacier National Park come to mind. Great mysteries. Good storytelling. Atmosphere.

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  18. I was interested to read that Eel Pie Island is real! I have a book by David Frome (Zenith Brown) entitled Murder on Eel Pie Island published in 1933. I always thought it was imaginary.

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    1. Ooh, thanks for this, Chris! I will look that up. Ben aaronovitch mentions Eel Pie briefly in his first Rivers of London book.

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  19. Deborah, I'm so happy that your trip is going well and you are getting lots of ideas for your book. Eel Pie Island sounds like the perfect place to set a mystery. But I have to admit that I am super jealous of your gallivantin' to so many places. Do you take notes as you go or do you come back and put everything into your laptop?

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    1. I take as many notes as I can. Have journal will travel! And I take loads of photos.

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  20. Deborah, great post! Intrigued that the island hosted jazz bands in the 1920s. I could see Bright Young Things venturing out to Eel Pie Island to hear jazz.

    Just finished watching TED LASSO and loved it. Has anyone noticed that Rupert dresses like Voldemort and his minions? LOL

    For me, it was Oxford too. I wanted to see the Oxford from Alice in Wonderland, from Morse the tv series, amongst other stories I've read. In London, I wanted to see Peter Pan's statute near Kensington Palace ? I saw it. In children's books about London, I remember seeing drawings of the Changing of the Guards? I saw that at Buckingham Palace. When I travelled to Denmark, I saw Hamlet's Castle.

    Look forward to reading your next Gemma and Duncan mystery,
    Diana

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    1. Yes to the Voldemort images, Diana, especially in the last episode!

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  21. Oh, Debs, what a fabulous trip you're having! I am so chuffed for you :) My very first London hat shop mystery was written before I went to Notting Hill. When I arrived to research the second book, it far exceeded my expectations.

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    1. I'm still amazed at what a great job you did with that book. I'd never have known you hadn't been there!

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  22. I cannot wait to read the new book! Write fast! ( Sorry) I loved everything you wrote about today. As to your question, my first trip to England, just after grad school, was like seeing my childhood and adult favorite books come to life. Rivers? The birds in front of St. Paul's? Canterbury? Cliffs of Dover? Stonehenge? Country lanes? (we rented a very cheap car and hit the road) The memories still light up, a lifetime later

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  23. Eel Pie Island! What a great name! And what a great place to set part of a story. I will want to read this book for sure.

    Yes, I have set a story in some place before visiting and had it surpass expectations. As a matter of fact, that’s how we discovered and then moved to Braga. 🙂

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  24. How fun to read about your travels and wonder which bits will make it into Gemma and Duncan's lives. I always learn the coolest things about London and England when reading your books and searching the endpaper maps.

    One day during a trip to Boston I followed a path that had been part of the Underground Railroad. Having read about it in school in no way prepared me for the physical reality. Actually being there took my breath away as I felt a stab of fear, and remembering that day more than 30 years later, I still get goosebumps. ~Lynda

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  25. It's wonderful reading about your London trip, Debs; it sounds terrific. You must be having such a good time--and accomplishing a lot, too. I had never heard of Eel Pie Island, so thanks for informing us about it. As for a real place that I'd read about exceeding my expectations, I think I'd have to say Cambridge University, especially punting on the river there. I'd read about British students punting boats on the River Cam and ending up in Granchester having a cream tea in the orchard there. And then an Englishman I had a crush on took ME punting, and we had one of those teas in just that place. Talk about dreams coming true. (This was when I was 21 or 22.) I've completely lost track of the man, but I love the memory!

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