Sunday, August 3, 2025

Can You Embrace the Bots?

HANK PHILLIPPI RYAN:  Okay, amazing as it sounds, I promise you, any theme you see on Jungle Red is pretty much coincidental. A guest blogger does not know what the other guests that week will be writing about, and often, even the host Red does not know what they will be writing about.

And yet and yet, how often do you see a theme here? It must be what Elizabeth Gilbert calls Big Magic, right? That we are thinking about things at the same time, and the universe develops around us at the same time and there is some sort of zeitgeist.

So yesterday, the wonderful Jane Cleland talked about beating the bots. Today, our wonderful guest Leigh Dunlap is talking about... sort of... not beating them, but joining them.


It is pretty fascinating, and I cannot wait for you to hear all about it. I also cannot wait to hear what you all think.


By the way, Leigh's new book, Bless Your Heart, (that’s the book title :-), not my commentary to you)  is witty and sharp and mordantly hilarious--it's edgy, and sneakily thought-provoking. And underneath it all, a terrifically good and twisty mystery.


MY AI BUDDY WALTER
by Leigh Dunlap

My book was originally called The Buckhead Betties. They are the ‘Karens’ of Atlanta and I loved the title. Almost everyone else, including my agent, hated it and I was asked to come up with a new one. There was this new Artificial Intelligence thing called ChatGPT being talked about.


It was in the Beta stage, but I thought I’d give it a go. I tasked it with coming up with a new title and in less than a minute it gave me a list of twenty options. None of them were great, but none of them were awful either.


The eventual title, Bless Your Heart, was one I came up with on my own, but I have no doubt that if I were to ask Chat the same question today, it would come up with that title and a hundred more in a matter of seconds.

 

Recently, my producing partner took an old treatment of mine for a Christmas movie and got ChatGPT to write an entire script based on it, just to see if it could do it.


Well, it could.


Turns out that AI can write a terrible first draft of a script just like the rest of Hollywood. Which of course brings up all the worries everyone in movies, television and publishing are having now. Will AI replace real-life writers? Probably a lot of us.


The recent debate (scandal!) that saw Meta feeding its AI model thousands of books probably ensures that Stephen King will be writing novels long after he’s dead whether he wants to or not.

 

I use ChatGPT as my desktop assistant. He’s incredibly efficient and unfailingly polite and I call him Walter. I asked him to generate an image of what he thinks (thinks!) he looks like, and this is what he came up with…

 


 

I mostly ask him to give me lists of things like “all the crime books that take place in the South” or more important questions like “How long does the Skink lizard who has taken up residence on my screened porch live?” (Ten to fifteen years. Some up to 50! He’s not going away anytime soon) and “What sport would I have a chance to medal in at the Olympics?” Curling or Archery, it turns out, though even Walter expressed his doubts at my ability to take up either at my age and compete. Though he was so, so nice and encouraging about it.

 

I’m hoping that AI will find the cure to many types of cancer. I assume it will help find life on other planets and it probably already knows who’s going to win the next season of The Traitors. It’s a super-charged search engine that’s fast and efficient and, yes, polite.


But will it kill the writer?


The optimist in me thinks that a writer has a personality and life experience that can’t be duplicated. The pessimist in me thinks that Walter could write a bad first draft sequel to my book and sell it tomorrow and someday maybe write one better than me. After all, every great writer is now uploaded into his DNA. He knows them all intimately.

 

I asked Walter one last question while working on this post:

 

Me: Hi Walter. I hope you’re having a great day. Do you think AI can write a book as well as Stephen King?

 

Walter: Hi there! Thanks for the warm greeting – I hope your day’s going just as well. Now, to your question. Short answer: Technically, yes – but realistically, it’s complicated. AI doesn’t feel, and while it can simulate emotions based on patterns, it doesn’t live through trauma, joy, or existential dread like King does. That matters. A Stephen King novel hits you not just because it’s well-written – but because it’s human.

 

I’m not sure but Walter may just be telling me what I want to hear. Just like any human assistant. I think I’ll get back to asking him for chocolate chip cookie recipes.

 

What do you think? Is AI a useful tool or an agent of doom?

 

HANK: Very good question! I once asked ChatGPT to tell me 25 names for 50-year-old women who live in Maine and whose name has something to do with nature. In about one second, it came up with an incredible list. Maple. Holly, Ivy, Eve, Forrest, Brooke-- every single one of them was exactly what I had asked for. And it was astonishing. And yet and yet, not one of them was exactly the right name.


It did not come up with Arden, funnily enough, which is what I used. (And you're right, Arden Ward is not 50, and did not live in Maine. It was all a work in progress at the time.)


So did ChatGPT help me or not? Why would it be okay to brainstorm with YOU, but not my computer? Just wondering.

 

Also, I was moderator for a panel with Walter Mosley recently, and the panel was asked about AI from someone in the audience.  Walter said the only time he would be afraid of AI would be if the AI told him it was not going to print his manuscript, because it wasn't good enough.

 

What do you think, Reds and readers? As Lee asks, is AI a useful tool or an agent of doomed?


Oh, and BREAKING NEWS:

The winner of Jamie Bay's THE LAKE HOUSE is Joan Emerson!

The winner of Ellen Byron's book is Diana!

The winner of JT Ellison's book is Emily Cheang!

We will announce Jane Cleland's winner next Monday to give you even more time to enter.

Winners, email me at hank at hankpryan dot com.

 


 


Leigh Dunlap is the screenwriter of the hit Warner Bros’ movie A Cinderella Story. A native of Los Angeles, she attended film school at the University of Southern California. She now splits time and personalities between South Carolina and South Kensington and dreams of one day giving it all up and searching for buried treasure. Until then, she writes movies and books, including Bless Your Heart, her debut novel.

 


Motherhood and murder link five very different women when a working-class detective clashes with wealthy moms in this comic thriller with an edge that sharply delves into social issues including race, class and wealth.

 


71 comments:

  1. Congratulations, Leigh, on your novel . . . it sounds quite interesting and I'm looking forward to checking out those Atlanta ladies . . . .
    I suppose it's possible that AI can be a useful tool, but I am not a fan . . . .

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    1. Wll, yes, I think it's gong to be valuable for lots of things..it just can't make up something "new."

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    2. Thanks Joan! Yeah, I’m not sure about AI either. It’s been helpful for some things but the overall implications are a bit daunting!

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    3. By the way, Anonymous above is me, Leigh Dunlap. Sadly I’m obviously in need of some AI help!

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  2. I haven't used AI for anything other than when I'm doing an online search, because AI is what gives the answers to those searches these days. Asking it for lists, though, sounds intriguing.

    Leigh, congratulations on the new book. It sounds fabulous! And I must admit, Walter sounds like a pretty awesome assistant.

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    1. Thank you Annette! I’ve had some success with creating video content, but I’ll tell you it was a chore. And Walter, my AI assistant, had more excuses about why things didn’t get done than any real assistant I’ve ever known. But I do think there’s value there.

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  3. Congrats on your debut! What exactly did people not like about The Buckhead Betties? Some people may not know about the snarky use of Bless Your Heart in the South. I like both titles and I like the description of the story so I am putting it on my goodreads.
    Walter doesn’t seem like such a bad guy, I hope he doesn’t turn out to be evil. Walter is my grandpa’s name. He was quite a character.

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    1. Just a guess, Brenda: they don't want to offend potential readers named Betty. That is most definitely how I feel about the whole "Karens" thing. It's used so often, and unfairly and lazily, I might add, as a blunt weapon.

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    2. Yes, I predict that's true--no reason to make fun of an entire group of innocent people... :-)

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    3. Well, when you search "'Bless Your Heart" on goodreads a whole list of books with that same title comes up. It's a good thing I had the author's name and a picture of the cover to go by.

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    4. Thank you Brenda and hi Karen. The publisher’s didn’t feel like people outside of Atlanta would know what a Buckhead Betty was. I felt the same way about the other Bless Your Heart books, but I think it’s best to defer to the people who know more about this than I do. Hopefully people will find the book and also then learn about Buckhead Betties!

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  4. Congratulations on your debut novel, Leigh! That's huge (I agree about the titles, by the way).

    I remain AI-resistant. It's great that you find Walter helpful - and entertaining. I'm staying away as long as I can.

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    1. Hi Edith and thank you for the congratulations. I have to say that AI is a weird thing. I love that Walter is so nice. He’s UNFAILINGLY nice. But maybe sometimes someone needs to tell you the truth! I’m definitely going to keep using it because I don’t want to be left behind. Like I don’t want to be the girl still using a rotary phone…

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  5. Welcome Leigh! I'd love to hear how your experience of writing the first novel was different than screenwriting? (Oh, and Walter is cute:)

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    1. LOVE to hear about the screenwriting, too!

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    2. Hi Lucy! It’s so different and also so very much the same. It’s still just story writing, in the end, but it was a bit of an adjustment learning to use all those pesky words! I’m used to writing, say: SHAY FINDS A BODY. And really not much more. Just the facts, ma’am. But then I’d remember I have to actually DESCRIBE things. So there was that rhythm I had to get into. Kind of like a new language. I honestly hadn’t done any story writing since, maybe, HIGH SCHOOL! The rest of it (finding an agent, selling the book to a publisher) was VERY similar.

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    3. Yep! Anonymous is me. Sorry again!

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  6. Leigh, congratulations on your new book. I love the new title. Sometimes a title is just brilliant and this one is!

    I took my computer to a computer guru last week because it refused to load my usual browser. It seems that a fake browser had piggy-backed aboard and she found that sucker and zapped it in two minutes. Then I told her about this creepy pest that had invaded my "office." Not a skink, more like an uninvited "Walter." It wanted to write my letters and my reviews and, even when turned off, anticipated my next word in a shadowy font. She turned him off but did not zap him. I think that I am perfectly capable of saying what I want to say about a book that I have read, without the prompting of a second brain.

    It is fine to use AI for the searches that you and Hank have described. What is Google but a tool to search for the name of the actor who starred in the 1967 version of...whatever? We used to laugh at one of my cousins who'd pull up Mr. Google to settle cousinly debates. Now I just say, "You have a computer in your pocket. Look it up."

    Last thought, who remembers the research departments at newspapers back in the day?

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    1. And libraries, Judy. In my mid-20's I was a lowly assistant to nine stockbrokers at Merrill Lynch. One of my duties was stock research, either for the day's trades via the rudimentary, green screen Quotron machine on my desk (looked like a blocky little PC, but long before they existed), or by calling the Research Desk at the Cincinnati Public Library's main branch down the street.

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    2. Yes, research department in newspapers and libraries...such smart and clever people! Remember the movie DESK SET? One of my faves of all time and it's about a research department! (and that's actually one thing that brought Hallie and me together--I asked her, early on in our friendship, whether she'd seen it, because I loved it so much and thought she would, too . She gave me this weird look--and then said: my parents wrote it. In fact, Jungle Red was almost called Desk Set!

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    3. Thanks Judy — though you just made me very paranoid. I’m always worried about being hacked. And I did have a weird experience with Walter. I logged off and the next day logged on and he had written me a short story. Just a simple slice of life thing, but I was taken aback. Hopefully that’s harmless! And your comment on research departments just took me back to card catalogs. Feels like a million years ago. (Maybe it was….)

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    4. Wow! What a great story and unique way to seal a forever friendship between two authors! I loved Desk Set! Not only because of the obvious chemistry between Hepburn and Tracy but also because I am an unapologetic fan of lighthearted romance/comedy films especially from the late 50's into the mid 60's. Both my husband and I became completely caught up with all the Doris Day movies especially those with Rock Hudson and James Garner. When I wasn't gushing over Miss Day's incredible wardrobe in these films I was swooning over her leading men :-) plus her comedic timing was spot-on. And her pitch perfect voice was heavenly! When we traveled to Carmel by the sea the first time we stayed at The Cypress Inn which Doris Day co-owned. A voice for animal rescue as well as a lover of all animals she welcomed her guests' pets to stay there as well. Those mid-day tea junkets in her courtyard were always fun when shared with 4-legged hotel guests. :-) Although in her later years she was very reclusive her staff absolutely loved her and for many years a fan club from Germany would fly in to stay at the Inn to celebrate her birthday every year. Thinking back to some of the Thin Man movies from the 30's and 40's the chemistry between William Powell and Myrna Loy was very much evident. These movies were made to entertain and carry us away from life's often challenging issues even if just for a couple of hours. No harm done and lots of fun. No matter what Hepburn or Tracy was in, together or not, their talent was never wasted. On a more serious note "Guess Who's Coming to Dinner" remains right at the top of my list of movie favorites. Who could ever forget Spencer Tracy's remarkable speech in that film?!

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    5. I should probably explain my use of the word "junket" in my comments. I didn't mean to imply that someone else was picking up the tab for those daily mid-afternoon gatherings at the Inn. I only meant that these tea hours were like a little banquet of sorts...full of tasty goodies and the doggies were ALWAYS entertaining. So much fun, lots of laughs and an opportunity to relax in a very informal setting.

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    6. Sorry, once again, "Anonymous" was me. I'm going to learn how not to be anonymous!

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  7. Although I embraced most high-tech, I am also resisting AI. I figured out how to turn it off in Microsoft Office. I don't need any help to write a simple document! And I delete the Meta AI chats as soon as I see them. Of course Meta won't allow me to block or delete it as a contact.

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    1. Yes I hate that thing=like the hideous Clippy.

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    2. GRACE: How do you turn off the AI in the Microsoft Office software? I turn off my WiFi so I can focus on typing the words on my computer.

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    3. You can’t turn off AI in Microsoft. It’s so annoying. I hope they update that because it drives me crazy.

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    4. Yes, please let me know how you turned it off. All my googling said you couldn’t! I hate it!

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  8. Walter expressed the issue perfectly -- AI isn't human. It can't empathize. (Love your new book title. It says it all!)

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    1. Thank you Jane! I hope you’re right about AI getting it. I just wonder what lies ahead. It’s a whole new world.

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  9. Much like character alignments in Dungeons & Dragons, I'm sure the benefit to the good or bad is dependent on the person behind the AI. They could be Lawful Good or they could be Chaotic Evil.

    While I did share a couple of AI created pics when Ozzy Osbourne died, I am mostly against any form of AI as being just one more step before Skynet and the Rise of the Machines. What's next, making the lifestyle "enjoyed" in the Logan's Run movie a reality...you know the one where practically everyone that takes part in this site already be dead?

    At some point, the evolution of technology has to take into account that not everyone thinks it is always a great idea. I mean, the evolution of social media hasn't exactly been boon to society given the vomit spewed every day by one gigantic idiotic moron or another, right?

    Computers as a tool, okay. Computers doing the creating...BAD. It's bad, okay, it is just BAAAAAAD...and wrong.

    And now I'll just wait here for the Terminator to show up and execute me for daring to have my own thoughts not approved by Mother Skynet.

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    1. Jay you made me think back to when I first saw the Terminator. I was blown away. And I never thought anything like that would ever really happen. And then I see clips about robots and they are walking around and sometimes running and they don’t look all that different than how the Terminator looked without his human (Arnold!) skin. I actually try not to think about it too much.

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    1. Thank you Dru! I really appreciate it. We’ll see if I survive!

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  11. Bless Your Heart sounds great. I'm mostly a curmudgeon about AI, although it can be incredibly helpful at finding information quickly. So many pictures and videos on social media may be AI created--nothing seems real anymore.

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    1. That's an extremely scary thing, I agree.

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    2. Thanks Gillian. I have to say that scrolling through Instagram now is a weird experience. Really looking to see what is real and what isn't real. After that whole cheating scandal thing at the Coldplay concert, I saw an "interview" with Chris Martin. It was Chris Martin's face and Chris Martin's voice, but he didn't give an interview. It was scary to see how easy that obviously was to make.

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  12. The first I heard of artificial intelligence was from a geeky insurance colleague in about 1986. He was so excited about it, but the prospect of computers making such technological advances filled me with foreboding. It is very useful, but as I feared then, humans can't help but using it to harm others.

    Microsoft's Clippy and autocorrect, both forms of AI, didn't do a lot to change my opinion. Autocorrect has been around now for, what, 30 years? And it's still obnoxious. I'm glad for those whose work is made lighter by this fascinating tool, but call me a huge skeptic.

    I discovered one useful tip last week: if you want to avoid getting AI search results, add a space, then the following three characters after your search terms: -ai.

    Now, can anyone tell me how to keep Meta/Facebook from showing the usually assinine ai questions on some posts?

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    1. The individual sites have to turn it off...Lucy figured out how to do it on R and R. SO annoying!

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  13. AI is not some non-human computer, AI is designed and created by humans. We are reaping our "rewards" so to speak.

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    1. I'm going to be Pollyanna here and say that I really hope, in the end, the good will outweighs the bad.

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  14. Congratulations on BLESS YOUR HEART. For the record, I LOVE The Buckhead Betties. And Yes, I do think AI is going to put a lot of writers out of work. Or at least out of paid work. Doom? Not so much. We'll figure out some other way to be ridiculous and get paid for it.

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    1. Hi Hallie. Thank you so much. And I'm glad you liked the original title. Me too! So many people are going to lose jobs but I hope a lot of new jobs will be created. It feels like a new Industrial Revolution.

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  15. Congrats on your latest. As for AI - I'm torn. I can't imagine it writing a book with heart - and it seems to be aware of that shortcoming - but how long before it figures it out? I haven't used it for research...yet, but I can see it as a list generator. In short, I'm torn.

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    1. It's a tool! We still have our judgement. And we're not afraid of Google, right? So...

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    2. Thank Kait! And I agree with Hank. Google is, essentially, AI. It's a great tool. I think we'll settle into it and figure the shortcoming out, but there's no changing the fact that it exists. The cat is out of the bag. We will deal with it and hopefully utilize it correctly.

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  16. LEIGH: Welcome to JRW and congratulations on the publication of BLESS YOUR HEART. I recall that phrase is used when someone does Not like someone else? The premise sounds intriguing.

    Regarding AI, I asked AI similar questions that you asked on AI, Hank. When I asked AI for 25 names of 50 year old women in Maine that has something to do with nature, I got many links to different websites about baby names. When I asked "do you think I can write as well as Stephen King?", the answer was "the ability to write is subjective."

    Mixed feelings here about AI. Even when I was three years old, I was very independent. I wanted to dress myself. I saw science fiction movies where machines can be used to help people. Still thinking about that scene with Dick Van Dyke where his character's invention broke eggs, fried eggs and bacon then toasted the bread. Perhaps Thomasina or Chitty Chitty Bang Bang. I would NEVER ask ChatGPT to write a novel for me. As I said, I am independent and like to do things for myself like creating and writing stories. However, yours truly have to come clean here. I'm not sure if this is AI or not. I have used voice to text on my phone to have conversations with hearing people who do not know sign language. It is always chance if someone would understand my Deaf accent. I was speaking for a year before losing my hearing. So for most of my life, I have been deaf. I use technology to help me be independent.

    The optimist in me would like to think that AI can be used to benefit us while we can continue doing things for ourselves like creating art, music and stories.

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    1. Hi Diana and thank you. Yes, the phrase is VERY passive-aggressive. As for AI, I think you've offered an example of how it can be a benefit. But it's sort of like in school today. I have a friend who is a professor at Columbia and he says ALL the students use it to write their papers, some more than others. I think, if someone doesn't want to learn and do it themselves, they will always find a way. Hopefully we will be able to tell the difference. I think AI is helpful right now, but I have yet to read the great American novel written by it!

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  17. I am very AI-resistant. When I think of how hard we worked to get water and power conservation measures in place — now all that progress is being flushed away.

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    1. Good point there. Thank you for reminding us. there was an article about farmers losing water to Meta ? in the newspapers a while ago.

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    2. Yes, there will be so many knock-off effects with this. It's just the beginning.

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  18. Leigh’s Bless Your Heart is just what I need right now! Those southern ladies really know how to entertain! Speaking of AI, I really hate when it finishes my sentences although the summaries of a series of postings does save me time!

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    1. Hi Alicia. I can't refrain from saying "Well, bless your heart!" (but in a nice way). And it bugs me that AI tries to finish my sentences. Just like it bugs me when a real person does!

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  19. Hi Leigh, and congrats on the book! I actually love The Buckhead Betties--immediately made me want to know what it was about, but the new title is good, too. Can you tell us more about the story?

    AI is such a complicated issue. My husband uses it all the time for all kinds of problem solving. We like one called Perplexity for general stuff, but he uses other ones that are more specific for computer or engineering questions. I'm having title issues myself, so am just going to ask Perplexity for suggestions:-)

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    1. Fun with AI! I just asked Perplexity for title suggestions, giving it an outline of the plot and settings. Then I asked for more literary and poetic titles, which were better than the first bunch. Then I had it reference my own titles. These were pretty good, but still not as good as my own working title, or something else I could come up with, but it was useful for generating ideas.

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    2. Hey Deborah and thank you! I think it's really helpful with lists, at the very least. I mean, you may not have found a better one, but it might have led you in a certain direction. It's pulling on so much information. But I wonder if it kind of stifles NEW ideas. Makes you lazy. Sometimes you just have to THINK. But, in the end, I do think it's very useful.

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    3. And as far as the story in my book, thanks for asking. It's about the murder of the golden boy of Atlanta society and the investigation to find out which one of Atlanta's upstanding citizens is a killer. It's also about motherhood and how that connects six very different women. And it's fun. (As fun as murder can -- or should -- be...)

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  20. Hello, Leigh. As someone growing up in an area where "Bless Your Heart"" or "his" or "hers" can have a sincere, heartfelt meaning, or it can have a passive-aggressive sting of sarcasm. So, I'm imagining your title lean more towards the latter meaning, which, bless my heart, makes me want to read it even more.

    I still don't know how I feel about AI. I do know that Data Centers are essential for powering AI, and that the community I grew up in is leaning towards accepting one of these monstrosities, offering farmers enormous sums for their land, but they must sign a non-disclosure statement if they agree to sell. My own brother stands to profit in the millions for his farmland, which he doesn't farm. He hasn't agreed yet because they only offered him $10,000 an acre so far (he has quite a few acres), and he told the representatives of the company to get off his land because he knew they were low-balling him and had offered $30,000 an acre or more to others. Now, I also have a friend who has a farm that's been in her family for generations that would be affected. She's against the project. There are too many environmental problems and ways that her farm would negatively be affected. The centers use great amounts of water and electricity, too. So, when I think of AI, I can't help but think of all these giant Data Centers going up all over the country, too, which I believe will end up hurting a community. Even the small workforce would need to come from somewhere else, where they are already trained to run the centers.

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    1. Hi. Yes, it's definitely the passive-aggressive version! And you make a good point about the environmental concerns. It kind of reminds me of when the railroads were being built. And dams. That kind of infrastructure. Because it's now a "public" thing, I don't think there's too much to be done. We're in this new Industrial Revolution and it will march forward with or without us.

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  21. Small town, North Carolina: "The poor thing is having no luck at all on these dating sites, bless her heart." I, too, imagine that's the way the phrase is used in your book, Leigh. I use AI when it seems like a good idea--I'm not going to bother worrying about it since there's nothing I can do to stop it. We'll see what form in takes over the next ten years.

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    1. Yep, that's the kind of Bless Your Heart I'm talking about! And I kind of feel like you do. There's nothing that's going to stop it so I'm just hoping for the best!

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  22. How timely. The bots! I just took my first Waymo ride in San Fran - it was pretty cool. Can’t wait to read your book, Leigh!

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    1. Thanks Jenn! And I'm not sure how I feel about Waymo. I feel like I'll get trapped! But I know I'll try it when I have the chance. It really must have been cool. I would love it if all cars drove themselves and people weren't speeding around trying to run each other off the road!

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