Friday, July 18, 2025

Debs Wobbles Nearer to the End

DEBORAH CROMBIE: We talk a lot in writing/reading circles about panster vs. plotter, as if these two approaches to writing were entirely separate. "Panster" meaning you have no idea what a book is going to be about when you start to write, "plotter" meaning you have a structured outline for everything that's going to happen before you put a word on the page.

But I strongly suspect that for most of us, however we describe ourselves, it's much more of an evolving spectrum. I may call myself a "plotter" but that mostly means I like to have a little "basic capsule," "who-why-when-where," for the actual crime. That gives me something to contruct the rest of the story around.

Then, for example, I begin to add ideas, as in the book-in-progress, Kincaid/James #20:

"Gemma has a challenging new job at a troubled police station" +

"I don't know much about London's canals but wouldn't it be fun to set a book there/Little Venice," +

"The Thames west of London/history/houseboats," +

"Family stuff/new nanny, etc.," +

"Melody plotline," +

"Backstory plotline," +

Etc., etc.


(Houseboat moored on the Thames above Teddington Lock.)

Those were some of the initial building blocks. But those concepts don't tell me how they are all going to fit together, and especially not how my detectives are going to figure it all out by the end. From there I usually do a very rough scene-by-scene outline of a few chapters at a time. Any more than that and I know that what I thought was going to happen will have squirmed all out of shape.

Also, none of this "planning" stuff means that a new thing can't suddenly appear and whack me upside the head, which has happened over the course of the last half a dozen chapters!

My math tells me that this book is now almost 90,000 words, which means I had better figure out what happens between here and THE END. ASAP. And that means back to the outline drawing board.

And in case you're wondering where Duncan is in all this, he's very much in help and support mode, and has his own connection to the case.

Here's a little snippet I wrote earlier this week of (spoiler-free) Duncan and Gemma, in a little interlude at home.


Having finally settled the little ones, Gemma came back downstairs to find the kitchen and the sitting room dark. Puzzled, she checked the study but it was dark, too. Then a movement outside the patio French doors caught her eye. Duncan stood just on the other side, his back to the house. At first, she thought he was taking the dog out, but Geordie lay on his back on the sofa, paws in the air and the lighter fur on his belly gleaming in the dim illumination from the small lamp on the bookshelf. Tess and the cats were upstairs with the children.

Duncan must have heard her because he turned and eased the door open as she came up to it. “Shh,” he said. “Don’t let the dog out.”

Gemma slipped out to stand beside him. “Wait,” he whispered, his breath tickling her ear. So, she stood, barely breathing, and he slipped his fingers through hers.

A low iron railing separated their small flagged patio from the expanse of the communal garden, where its rolling grass, kept cut short, was dotted with large trees. The moon was almost full and as her eyes adjusted, the unshaded grass looked silvery against the deep, dark patches beneath the trees.

And then she saw it, movement, a flitting shape, and then another. Cats? No, their bodies were too large, she realized, the muzzles too long, the ears too big. The tails were wrong as well, too bushy for cats.

They were foxes, and they were playing, chasing one another, then rolling and tumbling in the grass, then jumping back up to start all over again.

Watching, enchanted, Gemma thought suddenly of Karo Fox’s little cottage and the array of fox prints on the sitting room’s walls. Were there foxes on Eel Pie Island, she wondered? And would they know they’d be welcomed in Karo Fox’s garden?

She gave a shiver as the cooler night air began to penetrate the thin fabric of her t-shirt and Duncan let go her hand to put his arm round her.

“Come on,” he said softly. “Let’s leave them to it, shall we?”




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In which Gemma investigates a death in an exclusive Notting Hill communal garden, while Duncan delves into wrongdoing in the highest echelons of the Met, in a case that could cost him his career, if not his life.

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Dear readers, are you a planner or a pantster in real life, or do you wobble somewhere in between?





35 comments:

  1. This is such a sweet Gemma and Duncan moment . . . thanks for sharing it with us.
    Neither a panster nor a planner in real life . . . definitely wobbling somewhere in between . . . .

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    1. Thank you, Joan. And I am definitely a fellow wobbler.

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  2. Awww, that is a sweet scene with Gemma, Duncan & the foxes!

    OMG, I was totally a planner at work with Environment Canada. I spent 20+ years working on 6-8 climate change research projects/year. Each project had a different research team and different milestones/deadlines we had to achieve (to get our external funding) so I had multiple calendars. And my last job in Ottawa was as strategic planner for a directorate of 900 staff working in 24/7 water/weather operations so it was PLANNING TO THE MAX!

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    1. Grace, I am always astounded at your descriptions of your job!

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  3. What a beautiful scene. Magical.

    Basically, I'm a panster with occasional mini plotting to figure out what happens next.

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  4. I love this scene, Debs. I am more of a pantser than a platter, but I usually plan out a few scenes ahead, as you described. And I do have a vague mission of where we're going, but that can change, as we all know! I am so looking forward to this new book of yours.

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    1. Thank you, Edith!! I think we all at least have to have a vague idea, or a concept, even if we cobble together as we go.

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  5. I am detail oriented so in some respects that makes me a plotter. Over the years I have learned to go more with the flow, but I still like structure and schedules. If there is a best of both worlds….like plantser….I am probably that.

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    1. I love structure and lists and schedules, too. My problem is that I make them and then have trouble sticking to them! And I think "planster" is a perfect description!

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  6. Lovely Debs, and that's a lovely description of exactly how you write! Definitely a planner in life, though less so in writing.

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    1. I know you are, Roberta, and I wish I was half as efficient!

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  7. I love that scene, Debs. Duncan has a tender, loving side to him that makes him irresistible and my number one book boyfriend! When you created his family and back story early in the series, you clearly demonstrated where that loving softness came from. He is like that with the kids, too. Thanks for sharing this beautiful scene.
    As for your question, plotting hasn't worked. "Man plans, G-d laughs." I still plan some things, like making a list before going to the store, or planning a vacation. But we all know that some things are out of our hands. I am a plotter at heart, a pantser by necessity.

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    1. Judy, I was just thinking about Duncan's family. I love Hugh and Rosemary and would love to work them into another book. It's hard to hold on to all the threads of this book universe!

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  8. I love the snippet between Gemma and Duncan. I can definitely visualize the scene. Thank you for sharing. I'm a planner/plotter. I need to know what we are going to do and where and so forth.

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    1. Thank you, Dru! I suspected you were a planner/plotter. You're so organized with your blog.

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  9. Love the foxes! We occasionally have them in our yard, romping in circles. I just discovered a new garden to visit in London: the Southbank Centre rooftop garden.

    I'm a pantser who has learned the hard way to have a road map of the plot, even if it's four tentpoles marking the major points. True pantsing takes too much time.

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    1. That's a great description, Margaret--"four tentpoles marking the major point." I'll be that works for most of us.

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  10. Oh Debs, what a lovely scene. I think foxes are magical. And I can hardly wait for Kincaid/James #20! I am probably, mostly a pantser in life. I love making numbered lists but ai almost never follow them…

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    1. Ha, Suzette. I love making lists and plans. But then I get busy or something unexpected happens and it all goes out the window....

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  11. Very sweet! In a very different climate, my friend in Arizona has a family of foxes that have raised their young in her yard a couple of times. I'm a wobbler, not really organized enough to be a true plotter/planner. The pantser idea makes me anxious.

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    1. Oh, maybe they will make friends with their foxes:-) Actually, urban foxes in London are very common. Once when I was staying in a basement flat in Notting Hill, I walked out into the tiny garden before bed and there was a fox staring down at me from the top of the wall. They are quite magical and you can see why they feature in myths in so many cultures.

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  12. Enchanting scene, this is what I love about your books--giving your characters a life outside the crime being solved. As always, the wait will be hard, but well worth it!

    I'm usually a pantser in terms of writing. The exception is the novella I'm writing at the moment. This little book is a fictionalized telling of a family story, so I always knew who, what, where, and when. The why is the biggest mystery. So I had a general outline of the necessary chapters before I sat down to write. You might say the bones were there, and I've created the muscles and organs to give it life and hopefully sent the blood coursing through those veins to give it a beating heart that will do justice to the story. In terms of my daily life, I have to work around other demands on my time, so like to have details planned out.

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    1. Flora, above.

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    2. It's so lovely how we recognize each other here. I knew that was you immediately, Flora, without you signing in! And I loved your analogy for your novella.

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  13. DEBS: I love that cozy scene with the dog sleeping on the sofa. Such a tender moment between Gemma and Duncan. The book cover looks great - I can read the title with the dark background.

    Funny question that I am thinking at the moment....

    How do you find the time to go shopping for food and write books? I am thinking of everything I need to do today and thinking "how do I find the time to write?"

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    1. Diana, that is the perpetual question! It's a constant battle to keep the domestic stuff from taking up too much of my writing time. I try to combine errands, and except for Trader Joe's I use a delivery service for most of my grocery shopping.

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  14. Love this excerpt, Debs! I have a life plan, but a plan is just a theory that must adapt to what is actually unfolding...

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  15. It occurred to me when I woke up this morning that this post needed a photo of a fox, so I popped one in!

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  16. Lovey scene. Looking forward to release day. As for me, I'm more pantser than plotter.

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  17. I love how you create magical little scenes like this. They take your books way beyond police procedurals!

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  18. I've heard so much about the foxes roaming London but have never seen them when I'm there--not even in Hyde Park. Thanks for bringing them to life, Debs! Keep on going. As Rumi says, "Start walking and the path will appear."

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  19. What a wonderful preview of coming delights, Debs. I am looking forward to being back with my dear friends Duncan and Gemma and their children and friends. As for me, I'm a strict planner of my life (not that my plans always work, but I keep trying) and very much like you in the way I write my books--planning some, writing some, changing the plan and taking a new tack in the writing for a while, stopping to plan again, etc. I think I'd adopt the illustrious title of wobbler!

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  20. I'm not one to just decide to hop into the car a take a road trip up the coast. I'd love to do it but fear the outcome if I get stuck someplace with no place to sleep. Should I have taken my sleeping bag and pillow? Wait! I do take a pillow when I drive to see my sister, and a blanket in Oregon. The pantser part would be where I stop to eat along the way. I'm trying to learn to be more of a plotter now that I'm retired but I'm only on week three, so I have a long way to go.

    Hurry up and finish. I want to see what happens next.

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