Thursday, May 1, 2025

What Talent Do You Wish You Had?

DEBORAH CROMBIE:  As a profoundly unmusical person–I can't sing or play an instrument–I am fascinated by music and musicians. I'm currently listening to Brandi Carlile's memoir, BROKEN HORSES, and am reading Paul McCartney's THE LYRICS, a massive tome that is both a memoir and an analysis of the lyrics of over 150 of his songs. The book is a collaboration between McCartney and the poet Paul Muldoon, who interviewed him over the course of five years. There is also a podcast version of the book, McCARTNEY: A LIFE IN LYRICS, free to Audible subscribers, although with annoying ads. I've loved listening to McCartney tell these stories–he is, as you might imagine, very funny and witty, and also a brilliant mimic.



I am gobsmacked by the idea that music just pours out of people like McCartney and Carlile, and even by the fact that my husband plays the guitar by ear. I'm not tone deaf, by the way, and can recognise almost anything I've heard before within a bar or two–I just can't "play it back," which totally baffles my husband.



I suppose in a way this is like people who don't write being fascinated by the fact that people can. How is it that this thing happens when writers have a notebook or a keyboard, and a story and language come together in something new? (Actually, the idea that we put ourselves inside the lives of completely imaginary characters is pretty weird, I have to admit…)


I'm also interested in drawing and painting, but because I have at least some rudimentary talent there, it doesn't seem as much like magic to me as does music.


Fellow REDs, is there another creative endeavor that fascinates you? And is there something else you can imagine yourself doing?


HANK PHILLIPPI RYAN: My father was such a wonderful musician–a classically trained pianist, with a perfect ear, and perfect musical sense (he taught classes on Beethoven’s 9th and one of the two Mozart flute concertos (very specific!) , and he wrote two non-fiction books on the evolution of  American music published by the prestigious University of Chicago Press. .

 I tell you this because I have NONE of that ability.   None none none. I can look at sheet music and tell where they are in the music, if someone else is playing it. But the idea of transposing those notations into a note on a piano would take me SO long, one note at a time. And as for writing music, I cannot even conceive of how it’s done. AT ALL.


I always remember the movie Amadeus, and how they illustrated the notes coming out of his brain. I cannot fathom how that must feel.


I can sing (enthusiastically but badly), and I can remember all the lyrics. Someone else's lyrics. And I bet I could write lyrics to someone else' s music. 


I will stick with writing. That is baffling enough, and I am grateful to be able to make up new worlds and new people. On a good day. :-)  


DEBS: Hank, now I have to watch Amadeus again. I don't remember that about the music.


LUCY BURDETTE: I can read music and sing on key, but I sure don’t have the voice I wish I had. I learned from taking up ukulele that I can get better if I practice, but I am not gifted. When I hear people singing opera, it’s like another world. I always wonder when they knew they had such an amazing voice?


Having just finished ALL THE LIGHT WE CANNOT SEE, I can really see a level of astonishing writing that I am unlikely to ever achieve.


HALLIE EPHRON: Oh gosh, I wish I could draw. Or do any kind of visual art for that matter. My mother's brother, who died young, was an artist. He worked for Disney in the early days when they were creating the first animated films. I have one of his paintings in pride of place in my living room. And of course my Jerry could turn any idea into a poignant cartoon. 


One of my daughters is an architect and she can draw just about anything. Both of her kids — my grandchildren — have that talent, but I can barely draw a straight line, never mind read my own handwriting.


RHYS BOWEN: I am from a musical family ( mother is Welsh) my grandfather conducted a small orchestra. My mother studied piano up to concert level. Alas I did not inherit the piano talent even though I took lessons. Her fingers would fly effortlessly over the keys while I struggled. But I have sung all my life in choirs, in an opera chorus and as a folk singer. I still sing in choirs and it gives me great joy. I also play my folk harp which is a great distraction in my office 


Two of my children, Clare and Dominic are musically talented. So are Clare’s kids 


I also love sketching and painting. As I  have shared here. 


DEBS: Yes, and we adore your watercolors, Rhys! I am always both envious and inspired by them.


JENN McKINLAY: I am the outlier in a family of artists and musicians. I can sing well and like Rhys was in choir all my school life, but I don’t play any instruments. The Hub is a phenomenal guitar player and has been playing out in bands since he was 19. The Hooligans can play multiple instruments and one of them is going into film making. My father, mother, brother, and maternal grandmother–all artists–and my paternal grandmother was a brilliant pianist. Honestly, I’m glad I went with writing as my chosen creative path. I feel like the other artistic slots were already full so this one got to be all mine.

 

JULIA SPENCER-FLEMING: Jenn, I'm like you, in that I can sing quite well, and love music, but I've never succeeded at any instrument I turned my hand to, much to the dismay of my school's music director, who thought anyone who could sight read sheet music and sing it on tune must be able to play something!

 

You all may remember I went to college for a BFA in acting, and was an Equity apprentice. I gave it up because I was competent, but not really good, and in the arts, you need to be really, really good if you want to make money at something. But the talent I wish I had isn't acting, it's writing plays. I know, the exact crossroads between my first and last artistic loves! So far, my attempts have fizzled after a few pages. At some point, when I have the time, I'd like to see if taking a class might help, but, you know. It's frustrating, because I feel I ought to be able to! 


DEBS: How talent skips around is so interesting, too. Both Paul McCartney and Brandi Carlile came from musical families, but that's not always the case--sometimes musicians do pop up in families like mine. And where did the writing come from, I sometimes wonder? The only writer in my family was my uncle by marriage, so it certainly wasn't genetic!


In any case, I wouldn't trade the writing for another talent, given the choice.


Dear Readers, what creative endeavor fascinates you? And what talent do you wish you had?


P.S. Speaking of talent, that photo of Paul was taken, of course, by Linda, who was a genius with the camera.

62 comments:

  1. I an in awe of musically talented folks and gifted artists; alas, I am neither. I'd love to be able to play an instrument [piano, perhaps] or to put pencil to paper and draw something beautiful . . . .

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  2. Coming from a musical family, I’m in awe of relatives who have an ear for music. I’m still working out whether or not I’m tone deaf. It may be the software programming on my cochlear implants. My maternal grandfather was tone deaf though his children had the musical gene.

    Wishing I could modulate my voice so it doesn’t sound monotonous. I’m sure this comes naturally to people who never lost their hearing. Spending 20 plus years of my life with nil hearing affected my voice. I’m still working on my voice.

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    1. Diana - Three years into relearning sound with my implant. I am finally beginning to understand dialects. Most people appear to be able to understand me again. I am not sure if my cadence and pronunciation of the new words (like skype) is accurate. Fortunately, I can still read body english and am fluent in cat.

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    2. Coralee, being fluent in cat language is important, right? Yes, relearning sounds with the implants is a lot of work yet worth it. I can actually hear the differences after hearing white noises with the hearing aids. Now we know it was because I had ossification of the bones inside my cochlea due to meningitis. During surgery, the CI surgeon was able to drill through the ossification in order to fit the implant into the cochlea.

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    3. Diana and Coralee, this is fascinating!

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  3. Paul McCartney, the most enduring of all the Beatles. I would not have predicted that back in 1966! The Lyrics sounds like a massive undertaking, and also points out that songwriters can be poets. In fact, the best ones are, don't you think?

    Both my parents played piano, my father quite well. But there was no money for basic needs in our family, let alone music lessons, so I'll never know if I could have developed talent in that area. I doubt it, though. Music is a language I do not speak, when it comes to little dots and "flags" on a lined score. Like Hank, I can follow along, but I sang in the high school glee club by ear, and not by reading the music. Shh, don't tell Sister Ann. As for playing instruments, I always say I play the radio.

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    1. I don't think that McCartney reads music to this day! Neither does my husband, who can learn almost anything he listens to. So interesting!

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  4. What an interesting subject. I don't have any facility with the arts. My older sister has a beautiful voice. I have a loud one. Aside from my sister's voice, now usually heard in church, none of us five kids has any particular artistic talent. It's odd; I'd never thought about it before. When I was young it was generally held that I was a fine writer. I now think that was mostly an early grasp of grammar. To me, the sentences and paragraphs of the best prose writers flow like music. (Selden)

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    1. That's so true, Selden. And it's one of the things that makes me say I wouldn't trade writing, given a choice, because when that happens, it's pure magic.

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  5. Such an interesting topic. Nobody in my family plays music or sings. Like others, I've been fascinated by opera singers and others with big voices, even Linda Ronstadt back in the day. I can carry a tune and love singing in (informal) groups, but my cello career stopped at ninth grade. I've never devoted myself to learning a visual art, although I'd love to try water painting. Talk about mysterious - how artists work baffles me, and I can't seem to translate it to how I work creating a novel or story.

    My father was an inveterate and funny letter writer, so maybe I got the writing thing from him. More mysterious is my facility with foreign languages. Neither parent spoke any other language, although my grandfather spoke German and French and possibly some Spanish. I'm way better than the average bean at picking up new languages, something that's come in handy in my travels, and both my sons are too (well, their father is even better than I am, so that helps them).

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    1. Now, that's a facility I'd love to have been handed by the fairies round the cradle!

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  6. Oh, it is music for me, definitely. If I could have chosen, (fairies around the cradle)I would have picked it over beauty or great writing ability or making lots of money. It is such a life-long gift. Like a lot of people who can't sing - Hank said it here- I compensated by learning the lyrics. (You want to know how to sing Come All Ye Faithful in Latin? I think I can still do it)

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    1. All I can remember is "Adeste Fidelis", Triss!

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    2. Hank Phillippi RyanMay 1, 2025 at 9:36 AM

      Ha! And ALL the verses of the Star Spangled Banner!

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    3. I used to know all the verses of the SSB. I would sing them in the car with my daughter (very loudly) when we would drive back from Dallas at night. I asked her the other day if she remembered that and she said no.

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  7. Oh, I wish I could dance. Movement is fascinating and hypnotic. I remember when I was a teen I saw Marcel Marceau in person. What a revelation! Acting is movement as much as it is speech.

    I think most of you remember that I played an instrument as a child through high school. I still can read music, and sing even when I can't hear me. But it was hard, boring, and painful because my cello and me sounded off key often. Only when I was in orchestra, that is when the muse took over. I miss that.
    but dance, wow. if only I had wings I could fly... no?

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    1. the above is Coralee w/o coffee and not intending to be anonymous

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    2. Oh, yes, dance! It used to be easy to find dances of all kinds, and supper clubs with dance bands and combos, and dance classes for all ages and in many forms. But no longer.

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    3. Oh, dance, yes. I wanted to be Gene Kelly! Even now, when I'm on my Strictly Come Dancing binge every fall, I will be waltzing around the house.

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  8. 7th grade music teacher: “Well, I’ll put you in the altos for now.”

    Me the rest of the year: Just mouth the words.

    Several year later in church elbowed by Dad: I can’t hear you.
    Me the rest of my life: Make a joyful noise.

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    1. Brenda, I feel that. My first-grade teacher told me to just mouth the words for our Christmas program. I never sang again in public, although my nephews have said I'm pitch perfect. I can't hear it.

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    2. Teachers were so cruel!! Much better to have a bunch of kids singing joyfully than perfectly.

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  9. Like Hallie, I would love to be able to draw. It is impossible to exaggerate how bad my attempts are. I am amazed by people who can sketch a scene or capture a face. I have several friends who can sew themselves elegant
    clothes, too, but I think my lack of talent in that area is my own fault; I should have taken more sewing courses. Drawing seems to me like a magical gift acquired at birth!

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    1. I'd say the same for sewing, Kim! My grandmother tried to teach me to sew and to knit, but NO. It all just made me cross-eyed. My husband on the other hand loved using his grandmother's sewing machine when he was growing up. I don't know that he ever made a garmet (he was doing things like sewing floral fabric on the hems of his bell bottoms:-)) but I'm sure if you gave him a pattern he could do it. Not me.

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    2. Though I wouldn’t call myself an artist, I find myself doodling for fun….

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  10. Interesting discussion, Debs!
    I played the violin (in tune) through high school but never really picked it up again. I played in orchestras and small ensembles and loved the comraderie around musical events. I would have loved to have had a nice singing voice. Mine is mediocre. But worse than that, although I can hear the correct tune in my head, I can't make it come out of my mouth with any consistency. (Also known as "can't carry a tune.") That expression in Hebrew is hilarious, "She sings next to the key."

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    1. I suppose that's me, too, Judy; "Can't carry a tune." But at least I can give talent to my fictional characters. I've just finished a scene where Andy Monahan is inspired to write a song...

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    2. Be still, my heart! Andy's back!! :-) (Flora)

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    3. He's not getting as much time as I'd like in this book.

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    4. There's always the next book, right?

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    5. Debs, one of the reasons I stick with an author's series is how well they handle minor characters. It becomes an ensemble of friends that I love catching up with. You do this exceptionally well--it seems like every book either brings back a character/s from a previous book or introduces to us to someone new who engages our interest. So many people woven into your books! Andy, but also his agent. Duncan's cousin Jack and Winnie. And more!

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  11. Like others, I wish that I could draw. My ability is at the stick figure level!

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  12. This is, indeed, a fascinating topic! I'm right there with Hallie, wishing I could draw or really do any kind of visual art. I am pretty musical, so at some deep level I "get" how that happens. And I've always written, though never a book, so I "get" how that creative process works. But it feels like there is a short circuit between my brain and my hands in trying to convey anything visual. It seems like magic to me that someone can turn out cartoons like Hallie's Jerry, or watercolors like Rhys, or sketches or sculptures or pretty much any visual art.

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    1. Whenever I draw something, my husband says, "How can you do that?" the same way I say it when he plays a song by ear. He doesn't have the visual connection. Except you give him an engineering diagram and he's all over it! So interesting.

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  13. I've said for years that I'd love to be reincarnated with a good singing voice. There were musicians in my dad's family--my grandfather (who died before I was born) and my aunt both performed with Leeds Amateur Operatic Society. Auntie Mo was quite the comic actor too. When I was growing up, dad played the piano (it was actually my mom's piano, but we never heard her play) and we all sang on a regular basis, but the singing wasn't pleasing to the ear. I can tell when it's not right, just can't get there myself. My niece has a lovely voice and comes to church events occasionally just for the music. She plays guitar and piano too. My son played guitar for awhile, and definitely had a lot of music in his childhood. Mike, my son's dad, plays bluegrass banjo and has performed with many bands over 40 years. The current version (with a new to them fiddle player!) is going strong and has regular gigs around town.

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  14. Lisa in Long BeachMay 1, 2025 at 8:43 AM

    Absolutely no artistic talent here. I would like to be able to sing - not great, just adequately. And writing music just amazes me.

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  15. I was a Norton rep when we published Sir Paul’s first two books. Amazing! The music of the Beatles’s has been part of my life since I was 10, I can’t imagine the world without the music and lyrics. My Mom’s side of the family had musicians and painters. No talent came to me. When I sing it’s the “Make a joyful noise unto the Lord” type of singing. Alas. I would love to be able to sing well. The more I read about writing, thank you all, especially Jungle Red Writers!, the more I pay attention to writing styles and how the sentences “sound” as I read. Seemingly easy but not so.

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    1. I know what you mean about the Beatles, Suzette. I bought the 45 record of "I Want to Hold Your Hand" with my own money when I was nine, and the Beatles' songs have been part of my life ever since!

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    2. You would both really enjoy The Lyrics.

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    3. I was 11. I actually got to see them when they played in Dallas the next year. Although see is the operative word, and only by standing on a chair. You couldn't hear a note over the screaming fans. I have seen McCartney on his own a couple of times, though, and, wow, can that man put on a show. I wonder if he's retired from touring now?

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  16. It completely boggles my mind, how anyone can hear and see all the notes, musical lines, themes, tempos to compose a classical piece of music. How can you ‘hear’ the music for the oboe and then pair it with or counterpoint it with the strings? How can you write different riffs in the various strings, all making music and beautiful sound? To me it is pure beauty. I remember thinking how remarkable that the Beatles music flowed so comfortably into orchestral compositions.
    While I was at university, there was a room on the bottom level known as the passion pit. It had a long couch turned to face the wall and was always dark… There was also, for some reason a tuned grand piano. Someone, I never knew who – student, man on the street, prof – don’t know – would come in irregularly and just play the piano. He sat there, and note after note rolled out of that instrument as he played full classical compositions – all from his head. He had a complete repertoire. Wow!
    As for my children – well #3 was in high school when I went to see the teacher for the usual ‘hear how your kid is doing’. She told me he was so talented – the kid never did anything. He could run and play soccer. Pardon, I said. She repeated and then proceeded to show me his art. It went on and on in all mediums. (Apparently, he never brought it home…). This is the kid who hated to colour. He went on to be a 3-d animator, and now his (good) art adorns our living room.

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    1. Wow, Margo, what a story!! And where did it come from, that talent?

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  17. I'm fairly musically inclined. I've sung all my life (people tell me I sound good) and I played piano, violin, and viola once upon a time. But never good enough to do something with it and I didn't want to invest the time to become good enough.

    I do wish I could draw a little. The Girl is a good artist and mostly self-taught. I'm like Hallie - I can't draw a straight line with a ruler.

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    1. I do like to sing. I was singing the Star Spangled Banner at my granddaughter's gymnastics program last Sunday when everyone around me was just mouthing the words. I'm sure I embarrassed my kids.

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  18. I once wrote a poem that linked piano notes with an autumn scene outside my window. My professor told me it was quite evocative and asked how long I'd played piano. Ha! Always fascinated by the piano especially, but there is a total disconnect between my brain and my fingers. Youngest two nephews are gifted musicians--youngest just wrote 9 new songs in April alone. "I've got to stop writing for awhile," he told me. He needs to record the songs so he doesn't forget them. The music is all in his head with lyrics written on his phone! His older brother plays classical piano. Always learning a new piece and playing pieces he knows by heart. His 9-year old son is a chip off the old block. Funny how the music gene skipped my siblings and me. :-( (Flora)

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    1. Your poem sounds very evocative indeed, Flora! But, yeah, the music gene is capricious, and I think either you have it or you don't. People who have it are compelled to make music, in whatever form. I was compelled to write from at least my early teens, so I suppose it's sort of the same.

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    2. We read Suite Francais in Book Club. When I said I could hear the music in my mind (the story was written in the format of a classical piece of music about WW2), one of the others accused me of having an advantage because ‘obviously’ there must have been music accompanying the audiobook. There was not. To quote: “it's a fictional narrative — planned as a five-part literary suite, though only two were completed”. What a marvel it would have been to have it completed!

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  19. This is wonderful. I love to sing, but can't carry a tune in a paper bag. In my grade school the classes participated in seasonal concerts. In the second grade the music teacher herded us all into the auditorium, seated us in alternating rows, and instructed us to sing along with the record while she walked behind us. I was so proud. She tapped me on the shoulder. I was sure that meant I was great. Nope. It meant you will mouth the words! You could do stuff like that in the 60s. I survived the heartbreak. These days, when I take the dog out for his morning run, I'm singing DO YOUR THING at the top of my voice. Good thing my back yard is 120 acres. The neighbors are probably appreciative of that. Someday I'll figure out if the dog is running for exercise or escape.

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    1. When I lived in a fairly rural suburb of San Francisco, one of my friends used to go out on her deck and yell "Good MORNING WORLD!!!" one day the world answered back....

      beware the bears who walk and talk in your woods my friend.

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    2. Oh, Kait, how heart breaking! Worse than being consigned to the sidelines in gym! I sing around the house all the time, too, silly made up things to all the animals and good morning to the koi when I go out to feed them. I'm sure our neighbors love that, too!

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    3. Oh, Kate, I at least made it to 5th grade…but that was in the 50s. See my comment below. Elisabeth

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  20. To sing. Broadway show-stopper level. Once upon a time I could sing pretty well - but then I started smoking. All these years later, as the saying goes, I can’t carry a tune in a bucket.

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    1. That would be amazing. Whenever I attend a show, I think it would be an incredible feeling to sing like that.

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  21. Judy Kidder Browning here. I've always wanted to tap dance, and even had a few lessons long, long ago. I do got rhythm, but otherwise, no natural ability and the flexibility of a stick. I can't read music, either, but if you give me the tune, I can sing along and was in high-school and church choirs.

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  22. I can't carry a tune in a bucket. I wish I could! I wish I could sing in any style, in every style. Janis Joplin to opera sopranos and everything in between. Oh well. I'd tell people I can't sing but I play records really well.

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  23. I lived in an all girls (that’s what they called it in the ‘70s) dorm my freshman year of college. There were three or four music majors on my wing. One day I was walking down the hall and some of my “friends” called out to me to come into their room. “Is it true that you’re tone deaf” one of them asked me while the others looked at me like a particularly interesting museum display. Later, when I had joined a sorority, I was asked to mouth the words during ceremonies. (My mother had been told by her teachers to do the same thing so I apparently came by my non-talent genetically.) My son joined his high school choir and even got to sing ON STAGE at Carnegie Hall with said choir so his father’s genes must’ve helped him out. Nowadays I listen to music while walking the dog and sing along silently.

    I’ve always wanted to be able to “belt” out a song, on key with an appropriately appealing voice. I just think it must be a great stress reliever! (I have no other discernible artistic talents, either and am in awe of people who do.) — Pat S

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  24. I wish I could sing. The moment in fifth grade — back in the ancient of days when the entire class had a music period and an art period every week and we were all expected to paint, draw, make with clay, sing and play the “flute-o-phone” — when the music teacher said, “Elisabeth, we need another tall girl in the back row. But JUST MOVE YOUR LIPS.” Squashed my singing career. Oh, sigh. Cheers for May, everyone. Elisabeth

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  25. I love arts and crafts but regret that I spent so many of my waking hours chained to my corporate desk. Recently, I have begun taking lessons to learn acrylic painting and devour any and all tutorials that I can find on Facebook. I love flowers and nature, but it is so hard to capture them well. So, I will just keep at it. The results for now are words that flow more lightly and easily out of my brain that demonstrate that I am lightening up a bit and that is great! Thanks for the inspiration Deborah!

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    1. Alicia, I've discovered in my little ventures into watercolors and sketching that the process matters more than the result. Time vanishes! I'm assuming that's one reason why these sorts of activities are such good stress relievers.

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