Thursday, May 30, 2024

If You Can Imagine It...

DEBORAH CROMBIE:  Running errands on Sunday, I was pulling out of the hardware store parking lot when, lo, the car of my dreams passed before me. I literally gasped with pleasure and found myself grinning like an idiot for the next few minutes. This baby is what made my heart go pitter-patter, the Heritage Bronco Sport in baby blue with a white top.




Why I have such a thing for this car I can't really tell you (although it's partly copycat-ism, as my friend Gigi Norwood bought a Bronco last year, and I love hers. They are just such fun!) But a new car would be a big thing, as my lovely, dependable Honda Accord is going on sixteen! It just hit 90 K miles and is still a really great car, so I feel guilty even contemplating retiring her. But it's nice to have a dream. Maybe, I thought, I should print a picture of the baby blue Bronco and tack it up somewhere for a bit of inspiration.


And that thought took me way back, to the days when my daughter was a toddler and I was driving a horrible gray Dodge minivan, courtesy of my ex's work, and hated it. Vision boards must have been a thing then, because I cut out a photo of my then dream car, a Mazda 626 sedan, and taped it on my bathroom mirror. (Why I thought that Mazda was a sexy car, I don't now know, but it was certainly an improvement over the minivan.)


I was just beginning to try to write, so I added images of some other things I wanted to manifest. There were facsimile books, I think, and writing mantras. There were photos of pretty historic American houses (we were living in brick suburbia then, not our Arts and Crafts bungalow,) and inviting English country house rooms, and, of course, England–all things I did eventually manage to bring into my life in one way or another, even if some of them were fictional. (Including the Mazda, which I drove for eight years, then traded it for a cherry red Honda Prelude–now THAT was a sexy car!!)


But time went on and I sort of forgot all about the visualizing thing. However, it occurs to me now that I could really use some of that positive energy in my life. (Especially when it comes to finishing books…) 


Apparently, vision boards are still a thing, as a quick look on Pinterest and Amazon turned up all sorts of snazzy layouts and supplies. Did you know you can buy a "Royalty Vision Board Magazine of Opulence and Luxury for Women?" Or whiteboards with ready-made categories, including "wealth management?" These kits and supplies are a far cry from what I had in mind, and seem terribly impersonal... I wonder if that matters? It certainly doesn't sound as much fun as picking out your own special images, but the mind is a tricky thing.


What do you think about this, Reds and readers? Have you ever made a vision board, or used visualization techniques to manifest things in your life? Inquiring minds want to know! (And could use tips!)


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  1. Honestly, I've never even thought about making a vision board . . . something to contemplate?

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  2. That is a fabulous car, Debs! Love the color, too.

    Was your vision board in the early 1990's? I also had one, with cut out photos of my face pasted onto the magazine women stand-ins. I knew my husband would think it was silly, like the friend who encouraged me to make it, so I hid it next to my desk. I felt a bit sheepish about it.

    But everything I pictured eventually happened in my life. I've come to realize that it's like any other goal-setting exercise: if you don't know what you want, what you want to achieve and what that end result looks like, you'll never find yourself standing in that new reality.

    In some workshop or another the slogan was "name it and claim it". It's like setting out on a trip, no matter how long; if you don't first choose a destination you could end up who knows where.

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  3. No, I've never used a vision board. Sounded like too much work to find something to cut out and put on it. Time I could be using to read a book. :)

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  4. From Diana: I know of several life coaches who lead workshops where the homework included creating vision boards. In school, my psychology class had us students bring our vision boards. And another lifetime ago when I was a teen (actually pre-teen) model, our agents had us create our own vision boards with magazine photos of clothes that we wanted to wear and Why. My agent was a former model and had a PhD in Chemistry from a University in Europe (one of the most smart people I’ve ever met).

    On my vision board was a house that I would love to live in. Like you and cars, I have this thing about houses. I love old houses. An old house in the States is quite a unicorn, meaning it is rare compared to the UK and Europe.

    For me, creating a vision board was a fun acitivity.

    Speaking of cars, I remember the first family car when I was a baby. I remember riding in the car before I was three years old. It was the same car that Liv Ullman ? Drove in an Ingmar Bergman film.

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  5. My first relationship post divorce was with an individual who was drawn to all things metaphysical. So... vision boards came into our space. I learned about my cynical self, and my 'well maybe' self. The relationship ended; this was at the height of new new age metaphysics. At work I began to visualize, but not go as far as creating art. I found that metaphysics requires dropping into faith. This neophyte had to learn to trust before I could find faith which circles back to a vision board. I do paint them in my mind, and like Karen said, it helps to set the goal and manifest a chosen reality.

    If I were making a vision board today I would include a termite with an X over it, a hurricane also with an X drawn over it, and an image of peas in a tornado (puns on vision board natch) ps. nice car for TX. you go Deb.

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    1. Do it, Coralee! Have fun drawing those big black X's.

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    2. Apparently even mental vision boards work. A dear friend who is an artist + handy person is repairing the termite damage. Let's everyone focus on hurricanes of cat 1 or 2 not higher.

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  6. Pretty car. I dream of having another used F150 truck with a six-foot bed. Unfortunately, even used trucks (all I've ever bought over the years) have tripled in price since Covid and as a retiree I am unlikely to be able to own one again.

    It's funny that you hated your minivan. So many people do. The first time I drove a minivan (rented one for a drive to Disneyland 25 years ago) I was in love. Great visibility, lots of room for kids and pets, skis, camping equipment, rafts of garden plants, everything including the occasional sheep. For me, a minivan was my aspirational vehicle, and we've had one ever since. (Selden)

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  7. The wicked authors did vision boards some years ago on our retreat. I thought it was a little goofy at the time but I followed along and it was fun. Maybe it's because I'm not a very visual person in my ideas.

    I do like the idea of setting intentions, and I suppose a vision board is just a visual version of that.

    That is a sweet car, Debs. My car is also 14 years old and I'm starting to dream of a new plug-in hybrid Prius! My idea of sexy car...

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    1. I share that dream car . . . Mary

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  8. Becky Sue EpsteinMay 30, 2024 at 6:37 AM

    Reading all this, it sounds like vision boards do work. I'm going on a mini retreat with a few friends and now I want to try it!

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  9. DEBS: I have never made a vision board but I do understand why you swooned when you saw your dream car. I was such an Anglophile in my teens & twenties. Back when I thought I would get my driver's license (never did), my heart would go a-flutter whenever I saw my dream car: a Jaguar sports car, like this one.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaguar_E-Type#/media/File:Jaguar_E-Type_Series_1_4.2_Litre_1967.jpg

    Totally impractical to drive in a Canadian winter, even a mild one in Toronto!

    And I also saw my dream house long ago. In fact, I lived across from it in Toronto from 2001-2013. Lawrence Park is a very posh, expensive neighbourhood. That one-storey ranch-style stone house cost over $2.5M, even in the early 2000s. I gasped when I saw a "For Sale" sign when I lived there. It was quickly bought up. The new owner made some renos to the garage but the stone exterior stayed the same!

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    1. Ah, Grace, who wasn't in love with that Jaguar E-type? I certainly was.

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    2. HA HA, well it was just wishful dreaming. My starting salary at Environment Canada in the 1980s was $21,000/year. Too poor to even consider buying the Jaguar or that dream house!!

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    3. Yeah, I could never afford one either, and people I know who have had one say it was a great weekend/fun car, but not practical as a daily driver. I'm sticking with my Mustang, even though it's not nearly as cool.

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    4. I bought my dream car, a candy apple red Porsche Boxster S almost twenty years ago. They were more affordable then. It has been my daily driver the entire time. It is a convertible, never had any problems with the top or car. The car has given me joy everyday,
      I live in California, less weather issues here most of the time. Currently 102 and climbing today.
      No vision boards for me.

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  10. FROM JAY

    I've never made any kind of vision board or anything related to that.

    Sadly, the only thing I need to make things manifest in my life is cold hard cash. Which doesn't seem to be showing up even though I continually visualize myself winning the Powerball jackpot.

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  11. Debs, sweet ride! Why not?

    The idea of making a vision board is similar to other methods of goal-setting. Although I have never physically made one, I have made pledges throughout the years to change in one way or another. Sure, there is a certain amount of circumstance in our lives that, for good or evil, influences our course. But change comes from inside of each of us. If I have a modicum of control over those little things in me, then I can slowly move towards a better self, if not a better car.

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    1. We should all aspire to that, Judy.

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    2. Love how you put that, Judy! — Pat S

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  12. I have made many vision boards, as I love the process of putting images on the page (board) that represent thoughts in my mind. However, I am skeptical of the 'manifesting' part of the hype out there. For me, the value of the process is just that -- the process: think (what's important to me), find images (that represent those important ideas or goals), cut them out and glue them down (into an appealing visual representation), and then -- here's the crucial thing: Use the resulting 'vision board' as a reminder to yourself of what you thought (in the moment of creating the board) was important to you. The most significant success I've had with a vision board was reconciling with my brother -- the photo of him and me on a see-saw when we were little kids collaged together with the Nike line 'just do it' was the image that inspired me to act. It took me months to be ready to act, but that vision board with that image kept me accountable to my need and desire to act. It wasn't magic; it was hard emotional work. And it paid off.

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    1. Accountability--that is a crucial element! It's easy to wish and hope, but in order for change to happen you have to actually get off your duff and do something.

      So glad you and your brother reconciled, Amanda. You were creative in your visualization of how that would look, too.

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    2. Yes, it's the process, absolutely, and the very specific personal goals--reasons why I wasn't very impressed with the "kits." So glad your visualization helped you reconcile with your brother, Amanda.

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  13. I’ve never made a vision board. Right now I am envisioning being settled in my new home to take me away from the chaos of getting rid of stuff, fixing stuff, packing stuff, and cleaning stuff. And replacing stuff…come on already new fridge! Outdoor time in my flower bed and reading time are the two things keeping me sane.
    We drove a lovely blue 2000 Camry until Feb. 2023 when we discovered the frame was about to rust through.The engine as still great; hated to give it up. Now we have a sporty black Corolla because it was basically the only car on the lot due to the pandemic shortages. They weren’t even sure they had two key fobs for it because of the computer chip shortages. You might have to get your name on a list for that specific Bronco!

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  14. OK, so this essay was supposed to be about envisioning. Talk about taking me on a sideways tunnel – I thought it to be about dream cars, and so wrote the response on that. Tricked me!
    How can you pantsters use a vision board? Isn’t that contrary to the way of life? Being a pivoter – I don‘t know if that is a category, but I tend to change my mind a lot and follow that route – not for me the road untaken. I remember going to a bank to ask for an over-draft for the farm (it was mine), and him asking me where I expected to be in 5 years. Huh? Who plans past what we had for lunch?
    So, no vision board, but an essay on cars…
    Ohh – the van. Mine-all mine. My first car was a Ford Comet, known unaffectionately as the Vomit in 1973. New. Baby Blue. Horrible. I don’t like cars. Then in 1976, I gave the Vomit to my mother, and bought a brand new, full size, candy-apple red Ford van with windows, but no seats in the back (that was a mistake). The front seats were captain seats and turned, twirled and did all manner of good things. My father was redoing an old building into apartments and lo and behold there was enough bright yellow plush carpet to do up the inside. Class!
    I went to Montreal in May of 1977, went on a blind date, met the Harrumper, who when he visited me a few weeks later in Halifax, instantly fell in love with the van, the cat, the colour tv and possibly me, and so we got married.
    Van lasted next to forever until one slightly drunken ride over hill and dale and possibly curbs by my father-in-law, and the yellow carpeted family vehicle had to be replaced – you would not believe how we had to bolt in the kid’s seats.
    Ever since it has been a dodge mini-van. It must be big enough to carry a sheet of plywood, and possibly a couple of sheep and goats or a pot-belly pig. It must have seats. It must ride high enough to be used as a truck, most times. It must embarrass the kids.
    It is much more comfortable to get in, get out and ride in than my brother’s Audi. Ask any old person or sick person.
    Case Closed. Envision that!

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    1. A few years back a friend made me a stained glass sidelight for my front entry. Only problem was, I am in Texas and he is in North Carolina. I knew the window wouldn't fit in my Mustang, so I rented a Chrysler Pacifica and headed east. I named her Helen (Helen Wheels) based on the license plate, and we had quite the adventure. I really loved it: decent power, comfy seats, great room in the back and easy access to it. It even had fold-away seats that would disappear into the floor if you needed to turn the back into an easy-load cargo area. When I told my step-daughter I was toying with the idea of getting one she told me that me, in a mini-van, would probably tear a hole in the time/space continuum, so I didn't get one after all. But I will never laugh at them again. They rock.

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  15. From Celia: Car love, car lust, car envy - sigh - I am with you Debs. Got the bug from my father who shoehorned us all into a tiny Singer. He also owned an Allard. Now that was a sexy car. Back in the day I had a boyfriend with a sports car. The M4 had just opened and we took a ride doing the ton down it. Such joy.
    But a vision board? I don’t, nor have I had one. But I did make a base for my daughter who wanted one and completed the work. We found it years later and enjoyed the memories.

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  16. I''ve never made a vision board as such, but I did find a collage that I made in high school that had lived in the basement for a long time. It includes some elements that I still love and a few that I've grown out of: Leeds United soccer club and other images of the UK,, forests and the beach,John Denver and Gordon Lightfoot, images of the Episcopal Church, the phrases, " You don't have to be weird or stoned or freaked out to be happy" and "UNPOLLUTE". It's amazing how much is still applicable 50 years later. Today's vision board? How would I do egalitarian society or an end to the climate catastrophe?

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    1. Now that's an interesting idea, Gillian. If you could find a way to visually represent those concepts, it at least might help counteract the daily doom and gloom of the news.

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  17. Story to explain why you should have a van and sheep – particularly for Selden. Others may read for a laugh, or skip.

    As many of you are aware we used to be farmers in eastern Ontario. There are two times in the year when I am particularly nostalgic for that life. One is in the early spring, and the other is at sheep-shearing time. This little anecdote involves spring and sheep.

    It must have been February or March, as the weather was in that variable stage where it would be nice and sunny but cold, and then could be a snow event the next minute. The day promised to be good weather-wise, so we decided to take Tristan from school and drive to Ottawa to see the first Harry Potter movie. Ottawa was just over an hour away, so it was a day trip. Along the way was the auction house where livestock was sold and since this was Tuesday, it was sale day. So, as well as we three, we decided to take a few sheep that needed to go to the auction and drop them off on the way. We loaded up the van and off we went.

    Now, you should know that sheep in the winter have very heavy coats and sheep in a van sweat. So, in spite of the cold, we opened the little vent windows in the back of the van to make the sheep more comfortable, as well as make it easier for us to breathe in less sheep smell. Sheep being sheep, they decided after a few kilometers that they might as well sit down and enjoy the ride and be quiet, so they did.

    About thirty minutes into the trip, it began to snow. Slimy, snitty snow. Then the van went clunk, clunk, and started to poke along. More clunk-clunks, getting more disturbing. Just up ahead was the exit to Casselman, so we decided we would go in and see if we could find out what was the matter with the van. There was a Canadian Tire there, so Jack went in and mentioned that there was an issue with the van, and they decided to put it on the hoist. We got out, Jack drove it in and up she went. The attendant took his light and walked under the van to see if he could find the trouble.

    Suddenly from out of nowhere comes a Baa, followed by even more Baaaaas. Several black noses are poking out the windows and voicing their objections to being up high! Buddy down below can’t figure out what is going on! This is a sound he has never heard before!

    He finishes up, drops the van, tells us it is transmission trouble, puts in some juice and we head on our way. As we pull on to the 417, it starts all over again, so we pull a u-ey and go back, where the attendant provides more fluids and we decide to take the sheep, miss the movie, and go home.

    As we pull in the driveway the van dies, never to go again. The sheep are put back in their pens, complaining all the way while telling their friends back home of the outing they had to Canadian Tire. It was several months later before we saw Harry Potter.

    So I think of sheep every time I see a Canadian Tires sign and remember the day we took them for an excursion. I miss their smells and their lambs…actually I miss all of them.

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    1. Margo, you need to write a book about your farming life. You crack me up!

      My husband the wildlife photographer has through the decades carted around all manner of creatures in his various vans and SUVs, live and dead. I will draw a veil over the details.

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    2. Yes, seconding Karen!! I love your farming stories, Margo!

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    3. Margo, who is this “Jack” of whom you speak? I only know you are married to “the Harumpher”! (And I loved your earlier post about him falling in love with “the van, the cat, the colour TV and, possibly me”!) And I third the suggestion that you write a book. You have a way with words! — Pat S

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  18. I have a dear friend of many years who is a life coach, and she is an enthusiastic user of vision boards and using them to manifest the life one wants. I understand the idea behind them, but have never been able to really get into them. Perhaps like Edith, it's because I'm not a very visual person. So I am better at the Stephen Covey style of inspiration -- identifying and writing driving value statements and from them, setting long range goals and short-range objectives. I recently came across my values statements as updated in the 2010's, and I'm pleased to say that they still apply pretty well, and my life today supports them better than it did then.

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    1. Sounds like you are very organized, Susan. So interesting the different ways we process things!

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  19. I have not yet made a vision board, but I am a huge believer in manifesting. Sometimes I think we are born metaphysical and lose the knack as we age.

    A few years ago I happened on a Katie Holmes movie The Secret, Dare to Dream and then read Rhonda Byrne's book The Secret. Essentially, the power of positive thinking and visualization. It resonated with me, and reminded me of my childhood when I used visualization to learn to figure skate and ride a two-wheeler bike without training wheels. That made me wonder when I stopped, and why. I'm still learning, but the results have been remarkable.

    Hum....off to check out vision boards. Might be time for a test drive!

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    1. Great point about the physical stuff, Kait. Lots of athletes use these kinds of visualization techniques. If you can see yourself doing something, the body will follow. Pretty amazing, and a good indication of how powerful your brain is when you give it the right tools.

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  20. I've never used a vision board. Quilters use a fabric wall to sort their blocks when assembling their quilts, or at least my friend did. Here is my question: do you buy magazines and printed newspapers? Do you have a printer with multiple colors or is it just black and white? I've already made it too complicated, haven't I?

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    1. Not too complicated, Deana! I have cut up magazines and catalogues, and we also have a photo printer.

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  21. I've never heard of a vision board, but I did decide to use a photograph to create one of my two main characters, Renzo Donatelli, the younger of my two detectives. As those of you who've read my books know, Renzo is supposed to be exceptionally good-looking, which I found surprisingly hard to convey realistically. So I spent a pleasant hour online looking through photos of male models and movie actors (in clothing, I want you to know!) and eventually picked out a shot of the young Colin Farrell (Irish movie star) to be Renzo. I found this helped me to write about him.

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    1. I do this, too, Kim, for characters! (Although not for Duncan and Gemma, as they are now too fixed in my head.) I also cut out photos of clothes and houses and settings, and stick them in the current novel journal. Oh, and I draw maps. I guess this is an indication that we're very visual!

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    2. Kim, that sounds like tough duty, having to stare at pictures of good looking men, clothed or not! — Pat S

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    3. Yes, Pat, it was such a burden😜

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  22. I’ve never had a vision board, and I’ve never given them much thought. It looks like I may need to replace my 21 year old car sooner, rather than later. So maybe I should start saving pictures of cars…

    DebRo

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    1. Of course one should do the practical research, but I think if you're going to drive a car more than a couple of years, it should make you smile. So you could put up some photos of "candidates" and see which one consistently draws you back.

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    2. One handy research trick I know Deb has used is to cultivate a friend who is a car geek. I love cars, and have found excuses to drive a whole bunch of different models over the years, as test drives and rentals, mostly. I can tell her off the top if she'd like a particular model or loathe it on first sight. She is currently doing practical research on the Bronco Sport by riding around in mine, and taking the occasional test drive, when I trust her behind the wheel. I love my Bronco Sport, by the way. Such fun! Life is too short to drive a boring car.

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    3. Gigi is still trying to get me back for encouraging her to buy her first Mustang! She should have learned better than to take me along car-shopping, lol!

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  23. Loving everyone's comments today! I have to run out for a bit but will get back to answer everyone!

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  24. No, I've never thought about making a vision board. It makes me think of bridezillas with wedding vision boards. Shudder.

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  25. never anything as organized and tactile as what you did, Deb. But every four or five years during my career in the nonprofits, I found myself thinking about what I really wanted to do next. I even hand wrote a little list in the corner of a memo draft I was reviewing while on an airplane one time, not sure how any of it might happen. The list included making more money, being in a job where I could enjoy black tie dinners and gala events, being back in California (I had moved to NY for a job), and being involved with really interesting people at work. Strangely, by articulating it even to myself it seemed like magic. Within six months, I was back in California as a VP and then as a consultant and ED of a fascinating science Institute. So I'm here to say that when we, let ourselves listen to what we really want, we seem to focus ourselves even unconsciously toward that goal. That means, Deb, that big baby blue monster may be in your future!

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    1. Susan, your job sounded so glamorous! And what a good reminder that articulating what we want, whether it's verbally or visually, it a big step towards getting there.

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  26. I have a vision board in my office to remind me to do the things I enjoy, relax, breathe, travel. And I loved the first new car I could afford. A Daihatsu, cute but tiny. I yearned for a Porsche sports car. Now I can finally afford one I drive a big safe SUV!

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    1. Rhys, I too longed for a Porsche … I still have the chartreuse Matchbox Porsche my parents gave me for college graduation, along with the keys to Renault sedan, just like theirs! ;-) Elisabeth

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    2. I get it, Rhys. For years I used to covet a BMW two-seater convertible roadster, sleek to the ground, baby blue, and with manual transmission. All white driving Hondas. Then my youngest bought a used BMW 335i X-Drive, with every feature they made that year. She loved it, and when they were about to move to Kenya she insisted I buy it from her. It was older than my Honda, but I finally caved, especially after she gave me an utterly ridiculous price.

      Well, naturally, it's the most fun car I've ever had, way more practical than the roadster, and has spoiled me forever.

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    3. Buy the Porsche, you will smile every time you drive it.

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    4. Rhys, that's the sort of vision board I had in mind!

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  27. My first reaction to the term “manifesting” in your post, Debs, was to shudder. A friend’s husband has recently retired and taken up a lot of new interests. One of these interests is to follow certain motivational speakers and start “manifesting change in the world.” This is a lofty goal and I sincerely applaud him for his efforts. Spending the better part of a week with him on a vacation and having him tell me that every time I said anything (e.g., “I have a sore throat from talking too much last night”), I was manifesting it to happen, however, got old quickly. I do believe in the power of positive thinking so maybe that’s my version of a vision board… — Pat S
    P.S. My current car is a 20-year old Honda minivan. I was a bit excited yesterday when my husband commented that a few car companies now carry the candy apple red color I like so much. He said that maybe I’d be able to get a new car from one of the two manufacturers we tend to like to drive. So maybe I should start a vision board with pics of a new car. Btw, my minivan is still going strong and I feel disloyal even writing this!

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    1. I've wanted another red car, too, Pat (still mourning the gorgeous Honda Prelude.) And the Bronco Sport does come in a chili-pepper red, so that one's tempting, too.

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  28. I've never made a vision board. But it is said that the best pro athletes often envision themselves being at the top - winning a championship, or an Olympic gold, or whatever that is for them. So maybe I should give it a whirl?

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  29. Someone said above they were not a visual person, I not either. But I am a writer and a reader. So instead of a vision board, I did an affirmation practice, Writing multiple times every day the way I would act. E.g. I am reviewing my notes at the end of each class. I am organizing my notes for study. Entering law school after 35 and determined to earn good grades and keep my scholarship, this affirmation exercise worked well for me. Cum laude and a bar pass on the first try. Envision, all. Elisabeth

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    1. What a fabulous accomplishment, Elizabeth! Verbal affirmations certainly worked for you!

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    2. Thank you, Deborah.

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    3. It’s me Elisabeth.

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  30. Debs, I saw one of these Broncos the other day with pink trimming, not a lot of it. I would not have thought I'd like that, but it was so cute.

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    2. We see the big Broncos at our Ford dealership in all sorts of wild colors, like pink camo! But I'm definitely not in the market for something so big and so expensive! But the Sports are cute as all get out--assuming you think a car can be cute:-)

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  31. I use a modified vision board - not so much a whole vision board, but rather pictures of items that appeal to me. My daughter and I also have a shared Google Doc entitled - "Vacation, All I Ever Dreamed Of" - where we "plan" vacations - attractions, restaurants, hotels, etc. I used this with my last car purchase in 2020. I started the process about three years prior - posting pictures of cars I liked, checked Consumer Reports, researched accessibility. Focusing on one or two things at a time, planning, researching and setting dates helps me actually do the things I want to do - whether its a new car, vacation, sewing project or (the big one) retirement!

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  32. Yes! I still have my vision board that I probably constructed sometime after I graduated with my MBA. I was at a point in my life where I needed to set new goals. There definitely was a mink coat and a Porsche on that board. Maybe now that I am retired I need a new one for this next phase of my life. What a great idea!

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