Monday, May 6, 2024

In A Pickle over the Game




HANK PHILLIPPI RYAN: I am about to write about something about which I know nothing.

Which is exactly the point. And here I go.

Pickleball.

If you showed me three rackets, and asked: which of these is the pickleball racket? I might be able to choose, but only by process of elimination.

Same with pickleball balls. I have no idea what they look like. (Well, now I've seen the photos. Okay, wiffleballs.)

Reds and readers, many of my friends are enthralled with pickleball. Enthralled! Two, at least, cannot stop talking about it. How much fun it is, how competitive, or not competitive, and how easy it is, and how congenial, and all the cute, cute clothes you must have.

In fact, Pickleball is such a phenomenon that shopping malls are now being converted into Pickleball courts.

Neighbors are turning against neighbors, because the Pickleball players are swarming over the tennis courts.

I don’t know about this, Reds and Readers. I just don’t know. I know I am so behind the curve on this. 

I am tennis impaired, you all are aware of that, since you’ve known near-sighted contact-lens-losing lack-of depth-perception me for so long, but perhaps the rest of you could add more light to this.

I hesitate to say I am in a pickle about it, but I am. Looking up now why it’s called pickleball.

Okay, here’s the scoop.

One website says that some people believe the game was named after the inventor's family dog Pickles. But apparently the truth is that the inventor’s wife named it after the pickle boats in crew. The pickle boat would be the least competitive one in the race, with a crew that was thrown together at random.

Oh, now I get it. Sure.

So. I just served the question. Who wants to hit it back? (But don’t ask me to keep score.)

JENN McKINLAY: Hub and I have tried pickleball and it is fun but there seems to be a lot of rules. We play in a rec volleyball league every week (which I’ve mentioned before) and I fear we are just volleyballers at heart. Falling in sand is just a softer landing for my fifty-something bones. Also, I have discovered a certain oppositional defiance about myself. I generally dislike things that “everyone” else likes or that I’m told I “must love”. It makes me think of Groucho Marx’s quote “I do not care to belong to a club that accepts members like me” (paraphrasing). LOL.

I did recently read a romcom entitled Pickleballers by Ilana Long and it was an fun read and definitely explained the game. I highly recommend it for anyone interested in learning more while enjoying a romcom at the same time!

RHYS BOWEN: I’ve tried pickleball and it’s fun, although noisy in an indoor court as the ball is hard plastic, bat is solid. I know various neighborhoods have complained about the loud thwack, clunk noise of the courts.

I went to a beginners class at my gym. I started hitting with the instructor. He said “you’ve played this before “

“ I really haven’t” I replied. Just played tennis and ping pong my whole life. So it’s really easy to pick up. I watch professional games on TV and think I could do that!

The problem is that it’s so popular the courts are always full.



LUCY BURDETTE: I took a set of pickleball lessons last fall. Everyone else was probably 30 years younger than me. Still, I picked it up pretty well and enjoyed playing. There are a lot of rules, and Rhys is right, it’s too popular for its own good. In CT the former Walmart has been converted to a pickleball center. I may go over and check it out… But ps I did not wear special clothes:)

DEBORAH CROMBIE: I claim total pickleball ignorance! I’ve never been able to hit a moving object. No tennis, and playing baseball with cousins as a kid I got hit full-on in the eye with a hardball. (I couldn’t even hit stationary objects, like a golf ball on a tee…sigh.) But I love the pickle boat explanation, and pickleball is all the rage here, too. The defunct Bed, Bath and Beyond by my Trader Joe’s is being converted to a pickleball court as we speak!

And now I have to look up pickleball clothes. I had no idea.

HALLIE EPHRON: I claim complete AND TOTAL pickleball ignorance. Though I’ve read about malls being converted (along with climbing walls which I also prefer to remain ignorant of) for playing it and neighbors up in arms because of the noise. I’m a lousy tennis player and MEH at ping pong, so I think I have to pass even though my eyesight is aces.

JULIA SPENCER-FLEMING: I'm also in the non-pickleball side of the court. 1) My knees snap, crackle and pop more than a bowl of Rice Krispies, 2) my peculiar blend of one eye nearsighted, one eye farsighted gives me terrible depth perception, as the many, many scratches on my front bumper can attest and 3) as far as I can tell, it hasn't reached my town yet, and if I'm going to drive a half hour to enjoy a sport and socialize, the "sport" is going to be Scrabble.

I'm not sure the appeal isn't just from the fact the word "pickleball" is fun to say. Pickleball, pickleball, pickleball.



HANK: So how about you, Reds and Readers? can you enlighten us, guide us, explain it all to us?

115 comments:

  1. I totally relate to your near-sighted-lack-of depth-perception, Hank . . . so I have absolutely no desire to explore the possibility of playing pickleball [even if they have cute clothes] . . . . I don't imagine I'd be any better at it than I was at any of those hit-the-ball school sports that I was so lousy at playing . . . .

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    1. Hank Phillippi RyanMay 6, 2024 at 1:01 AM

      Hit-the-ball sports. I have never heard that term—and I love it. I am so with you! Not gonna happen. But hey—we have other skills, right? Xxx

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  2. Hank and Julia, we are sisters in the lousy depth perception department. In the States it's not as much of a problem as it is everywhere else, where abrupt level changes with no warning are waiting to sneak up on me. In other words, I can barely walk safely, let alone hit a ball coming towards me.

    My husband loves tennis, and has played with a friend for years at a city high school court. Alas, they have converted them all to pickleball now, and not just that one, but other courts they used to play on.

    Part of our driveway would be perfect for a pickleball court, sizewise, and because it's level. But we would have to set it up and dismantle it every time we wanted to manage a car, so pffft. I would definitely join the Scrabble team, though!

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    1. KAREN: Even with my implanted corrective lenses from cataract surgery, I still have depth perception issues. My big (and common) problem is when I am going down a steep set of stairs, I have to clutch the handrail or risk falling down in a bad way.

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    2. Same here, Grace. I had LASIK on both eyes in 2000, but it's as if my brain never learned to perceive depth outside the diameter of my glasses' lenses, so they refuse to acknowledge the existence of anything there. The darnedest thing.

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    3. Grace, I have a similar problem, despite cataract surgeries I had this past fall. The day I picked up my new glasses, I drove straight home, and hit my upstairs neighbor’s car as I backed into my assigned parking space. He was very good about it. Both of us drive ancient cars that have years of scrapes and dings and scratches. I saw my eye surgeon for a follow-up several weeks ago, and told him I was having trouble judging distances when I’m backing in and out of parking spaces. He told me not to wear my glasses for driving. So, I listened to him, and am no longer having that problem.

      DebRo

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    4. Sorry to hear that you both have this depth perception issue, too. The myopia is differet in both eyes. The right eye with the stronger prescription (-13) was corrected to 20/20 vision with the implant. But I agreed with my eye surgeon to make my left eye more far-sighted.This mIt eant I would not need reading glasses to read books or when I was using the computer.it seemed to be the best decision but that lopsided vision affects my depth perception on stairs.

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    5. The jungle red scrabble team! We will be unbeatable!

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    6. We would, Hank!

      Grace, because I only had a cataract in one eye it gave me the chance to try out have that lopsided vision ahead of decision making time. It was not for me, and I'm glad I decided not to go that route. I'd rather wear readers.

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    7. Add me to the depth perception challenged. In my eyes this was not a cataract problem, but “a wrinklely” cornea. Diagnosed over 40 years ago, no practical solution presented itself and now I just have my wrinklely cornea and don’t drive anymore (Stopped driving after dark when I was diagnosed. Stopped driving at all about 4 years ago.) Elisabeth

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    8. I have also had the issue with one nearsighted and one farsighted eye and the same issue with depth perception. I have always had it and didn’t realize it was so common. If anyone is interested, it’s called anisometropia.
      I have the same problem with stairs, especially if they are all the same color. It helps if I close one eye.
      I primarily read with my left eye because of the disparity. I also used to have a problem when I went to renew my driver’s license because I couldn’t use the machine for the eye test so I had to get a certificate from the eye dr indicating that I passed the test.
      I had cataract surgery in both eyes and had hoped the new lenses would make both eyes the same but was told that, for a number of reasons, it couldn’t be done.
      I was never a competitive tennis player, but I enjoyed playing and didn’t have a problem in hitting the ball. Unfortunately, now it’s my knees not my eyes that affects my ability to play.

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  3. I've played Pickleball on some of the cruises I've taken in the last couple of years. It was fun, but I definitely agree with the rules. Every time I thought I had it figured out, I fell afoul of another rule I didn't know about.

    And yes, the rocking of the ship and the wind did make it more interesting to play.

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    1. Pickleball on a CRUISE! Very high degree of difficulty! xxx

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  4. I have never heard of pickleball before reading this post, but I agree, the name sounds fun. I don't think pickleball has made it to Portugal. Here everything is soccer, which all of Europe and England call football, and they are really football crazy! I think the only other sport they ever watch is basketball. As for me and fast moving objects, I never was good at tennis, pingpong, or even golf, so I'm sure if pickleball does make it to Portugal I won't be playing it.

    But shopping centers converting to courts! I didn't realize that, although it seems a good use of vacated spaces.

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    1. I know someone who went to Porto (Gaia) Portugal for a pickleball event.

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    2. Yes, I agree...better than having them empty!

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    3. Brenda, I had no idea! But then, I'm out of the pickleball loop. 😊

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  5. I can only imagine what attempting to play pickleball would do to my already creaky knees and hips, plus I'm in the lousy-at-hit-a-ball-sports club. Give me a good Scrabble game any day, followed by the one sport I can still do - walking briskly for an hour.

    Apparently my competitive ex-husband was an early adopter of pickleball and is going strong at 80 trying to beat other seniors in Albuquerque. Just another reason for me to say, No thanks!

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    1. Giving you a high five, fellow daily brisk walker!

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    2. I've been thinking about you both these past two weeks, because we have walked at least four miles almost every day of our trip. One day it was nearly eight. The Polish relatives, in particular, walk briskly, and have enjoyed showing us around.

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    3. Great! Walking 8 miles on the hot humid morning at the Singapore Botanical Garden/Nat'l Orchid Garden was worth it! By comparison, it was easy to walk 10 km/6 mi in Vancouver on Sunday. After bring on a plane for 16 hoyrs, I needed to use my legs!

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    4. Yes, walking is fabulous in every way--It makes me feel so virtuous, and I don't have to try to hit anything with any kind of a racket or other impossible implement.

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  6. We were in Delaware last week visiting our daughter and family. The oldest grandson just turned 13, her youngest is 9. They set up a pickleball court on their driveway and played for hours. They got Irwin out there to watch and play (he's been giving them tennis lessons since they could walk) and Rachel actually won some games off them. I gave it a little try. It could become addictive. I thought the boys were just making up rules as we went along. The laughter was as loud as the noise from the rackets.

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    1. I love the idea of it being a game you can quickly set up in a driveway, Judy. Sort of like everyone used to have a badmitten set for the backyard.

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    2. LOVE the idea of making up rules! SO funny. My sister and I used to torment our third sister with made up rules for cardgames. (OH if it's the second time you use a 6, you can take eveyrone's cards.)

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  7. I have a couple of friends who are pickleball enthusiasts, but I think I'll pass. I'm lousy at tennis (haven't played since high school!), kinda sorta liked ping pong (although it's been ages and we never followed the rules), but I do enjoy badminton. Again, we don't follow the rules, just whack the birdie back and forth over the net (or, when I was a kid, over Mom's clothesline in the backyard.)

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    1. Agree, forget the rules! I say you win every time you even manage to hit the darn thing.

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  8. I am in the same boat as HANK, JULIA, KAREN and JOAN with poor eyesight & depth perception issues most of my life.

    That being said, I was a recreational tennis player in my teens, dropped it and started playing again ftom my mid30s to late50s. It was a great stress reliever to whack balls after work with colleagues.

    Why did I stop? I broke my l left ankle on both sides in late 2017. I can thankfully walk long distances post-injury but I CAN'T do those short sprints back& forth towards the tennis net. Go figure.

    So I would like to try pickleball which is invadjng precious free tennis court spaces & rec room spots in Ottawa. There are novice drop-in sessions...

    P.S. I am getting closer to my normal timezone & commenting time. I am in Vancouver BC until Wednesday morning, then flyibg home to Ottawa.

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    1. I hope it's been an amazing trip, Grace!

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    2. Thx. Yes, the 10 days spent in Singapore exceeded my expectations. I did not get to go/do all the things I wanted due to the oppressive heat/humidity & torrential rain on my last full day. Since I survived the 15/16 hour direct flight to get to Singapore from Vancouver, I just need to replenish my travel fund to go back there + other SE Asia countries.

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    3. I showed Irwin your Facebook posts from Singapore with the photos of food. He loved them. I think he loves the idea of a foodie trip, but neither of us has the capacity to make one worthwhile. Too, bad. We love delicious food.

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    4. Let us know if you try it! And welcome home..will you write a blog for us about it?

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    5. Awww, thx for the offer. But a 2-part summary of my Singapore solo travel is already going up on the Murder Is Everywhere blog. PART I goes live tomorrow while Ovidia is traveling to Bristol for Crimefest & I am doing an extended Vancouver stopover. I should be able to watch both FCF and Reds & Readers live. A 3 -hour time difference is much more doable than the 12-hour time difference between Singapore & Ottawa/Boston etc.z

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  9. Pretty sure Pickleball is not for me. I'm reminded of a college semester I wound up taking something called Handball, Raquetball and Squash. I should have known better but it was the only PE course available that would work in my schedule. The coach told me to my face that I was the worst he had ever seen!

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    1. Oh, Judi. I’ve had the same message in PE. Bowling… no automatic pin setters… Coach, “ You know, Elisabeth, if you didn’t do a passable job of setting pins and have a clean uniform every week, I’d have to fail you.” PS Are students still required to wear “gym suits”? Elisabeth

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    2. NIGHTMARE! ANd oh, Elisabeth, those SUITS! Argh.

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  10. Eat pickles yes. Play pickle ball no. I can tell you that Elephant Games, a studio in Russia, just released an update to a hidden object game that has a sporting equipment scene with a pickle ball racquet. Apparently the game is played everywhere. I wonder if the play it in Antarctica?

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  11. We played tennis in Atlanta all the time, but in Cincinnati only when the kids are visiting. I've seen neighbors playing pickleball, but I wasn't interested. In college I took a semester of racquet sports, badminton until the weather improved and we could hit the tennis courts. Badminton is a great game!

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  12. I am a relatively new pickleball convert having played for just over a year. It is fun and you meet a lot of new people. I am very nearsighted and wear progressive lenses with prisms and I can manage to hit the ball most of the time.
    First of all Hank, it is called a paddle and not a racket. If you are going to write about it, I highly recommend the Pickleball for Dummies book. (I’m not calling you a dummy.) It has a lot of great basic information. I could loan you our copy.
    I do have one tshirt that says “Dink Responsibly” (dinking is the short shots made at the net) and a pair of leggings that say Pickleball down one leg and has a row of multicolored balls down the other. I mostly just wear any old tshirt and leggings or shorts, but I’ve never been a fashionista. Court shoes and not running shoes are important, but they don’t have to be designated specifically for pickleball.

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    1. Stretching before and after is very important to prevent injury, particularly of the calf muscles.

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  13. Joan, I'm on your team! That said, pickleball started out around here as a fun, inclusive game--something I might have considered trying with friends. BUT, it has morphed into this highly competitive, must be on right team, have right equipment, clothing, shoes, rules game--soooooo not for me.

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    1. Oh, no, Flora! It used to be fun, now it's a sport!

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  14. I've never tried pickleball. It looks like it could be fun, but the idea of lots of noise does not appeal! From the outside, it looks like paddle tennis, which we played at gym class at school in England in 1972, but perhaps it's not the same.

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    1. Wonder if it's the same? Paddle tennis....hmmm...

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  15. When all the family was together last Christmas, we played outdoors at the local rec center. We didn't know the rules so we played what we thought would be similar to tennis rules. At any rate, we had a blast. It is much easier than tennis and anyone can play. If you miss the ball your partner will have a shot at it.

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    1. I think because the ball isn't as bouncy as a tennis ball, because it's made of plastic, like a whiffle ball.

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    2. Also the pickleball court is smaller than a tennis court...less running around & you have partner, which appealed to me since my days of playing tennis are done (as explained in my original comment),

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    3. It isn't as bouncy. Hmmm. Now I want to watch it on TV. For about two minutes.

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    4. I used to play tennis and in my experience, Pickle Ball is easier than tennis because the court is about half the size so you don't have to run as far from the base line to the net, etc. Plus you play with a partner so you always have a backup person.

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  16. We were taught it in high school PE class. Nothing fancy, just strung up the nets along the gym and took turns playing. This was in the very early 2000s, but according to Google, pickleball was invented in 1965, so nothing new but awhile before it got so popular. We'd never heard of it at that time, especially in our tiny rural area.

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  17. HANK: Believe it or not, I am tennis impaired though I am good at ping pong "table tennis". Someone mentioned being tennis impaired and I would say that is definitely me to a T.

    A young relative was on her high school volleyball team and she taught me how to play volleyball. For the first time in my life, it looked like I could play volleyball!

    "Pickleball" is new to me. I had to google it. Looks like tennis with a difference - paddles instead of tennis brackets?

    Have not seen places for pickleball games, though I am sure I will notice after reading this post!

    Diana

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    1. Yes, I'm sure you are right! Jenn is our resident volleyball maven!

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  18. The first I was aware of Pickleball was during the pandemic. Maybe the courts were too close together or small to keep people apart. I don't know, but I won't be joining anytime soon. Wonky knees, never could play tennis are softball so I'll just pass.

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  19. Our former neighbors in Houston play pickleball and they love it. As you get better you are kicked “upstairs” so you play others with similar abilities.
    No, I haven’t tried and I’m not tempted to. Pat D

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  20. From Celia: Games with balls, BIG SIGH! No comment on prowess or lack of same. Thank goodness I’ve reached the age of acceptance at my lack of skills in this arena. If as Brenda? (Sorry can’t upscroll) wrote 1965 was the launch. That is a long way back. So why did it take so long to become such a thing? My guess is marketing - lure folk in with inexpensive equipment. Wooden paddle etc, then add cute clothing. How could it not become a sensation in these days of SM?

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    1. I had no idea it was from that long ago...looking it up again.

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    2. Vaguely remember mid-1960s an alumna and her husband donated a pickled ball court to Connecticut College for Women (back in those “olden” days of single sex education). It was the “hot new trend”. Elisabeth

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  21. Pickleball was becoming a "thing" before the pandemic in Florida. Actually, it was probably a thing before that, but it began to hit the news because neighbors were suing villages and towns to have courts shut down because of the noise. That's about the sum total of my knowledge. I grew up playing tennis, squash, and ping pong, and loved them all. Maybe, if pickleball ever comes to my end of the woods, I'll give it a try.

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    1. Yes, I have heard that, too, that it is SO noisy!

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  22. There are pickle ball courts in several parks in my city. In addition, pickle ball is played regularly at the senior center. My upstairs neighbor plays regularly, either at the senior center or at one of the playground pickle ball courts. He’s in his late seventies and prides himself on being able to play challenging games with much younger players. As for me, I have zero interest in learning to play the game!

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    1. That's wonderful, though, about the senior center!

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  23. Deborah Crombie, and I thought I was the only one! Who could not play any sport which involved hitting a ball, moving or still, with any sort of thing but my hand! A kindred spirit at last! … of course I was pretty awful at punch ball too. Cheers, all. Elisabeth

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  24. I agree with Julia. I think part of the appeal is the word "pickleball". LOL. It does make me smile.

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  25. Apparently nurses in the ER have been quoted as saying Pickleball is responsible for an amazing % of injuries they see.

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  26. I have a college friend who lives in Florida and seems to be pickleball coach crazy. She’s probably still the same size she was in college so wears the cute clothes (which look a lot like tennis clothes to me). I have not tried pickleball but my husband (who has played tennis since he was a child) looks disdainfully at the sport. I’d rather be on the JR Scrabble team, please! Though I am curious about Celia’s “SM” comment….. ;-). — Pat S

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  27. Didn’t mean the word “coach” in my first sentence. — Pat S

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  28. Hi , Hank Phillippi sent me to let you know that I saw this about Pickle Ball on the Reds and Readers FB page. I have heard of Pickle Ball and it looks pretty similar to tennis but actually alot different. Have a Great day. Licha Haney. aliciabhaney(at)sbcglobal(dot)net

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    1. Hi, LIcha! Thank you so much for helping on the test! You are entered! xx

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  29. Hank sent me live from FB Reds & Readers. I don’t play but, we have a lot of neighbors who do. Maybe someday.

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    1. Hey Kim! I think you were the fist on the screen. Thanks for helping on the test! You are entered! xx

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  30. Never played pickleball and don't know a thing about it except you hit a ball with a racket or something like that. Given my wonky knee, lack of balance, and general lack of coordination for such things, I probably never will play.

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  31. Rebecca OplingerMay 6, 2024 at 1:20 PM

    Hank sent me from Reds & Readers Live!

    I don't know pickleball. I'm more of a Boggle girl myself.

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    1. Boggle! SOld! Thank you so much for helping on the test! You are entered! xx

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  32. Despite the fact that I’ve been a Special Olympics coach for over 25 years I am not athletic at all. I always tell my athletes that I’m a motivational coach. 😄 I do know what pickle ball is and have seen it played. Actually I think it would be a fun addition to the Special Olympics sports lineup.

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    1. Oh, that's a brilliant idea! ANd I love a motivational coach. DO you do that for writers, too?

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  33. Hank sent me from Reds & Readers Live. I'm a confirmed klutz so sports are really not in my wheelhouse. Give me a book any day. I do have a dear friend who loves the sport, but then she's fairly coordinated. I try not to hold that against her. My google account doesn't want to talk to this site so I'm here anonymously. I'm on FB Reads & Readers as Victoria Anne.

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    1. SO great to see you, Victoria Anne! ! Thank you so much for helping on the test! You are entered! xx

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  34. Hi, Hank sent me from a minute on facebook. I think sometimes about trying Pickleball but I’ve yet to do it simply because it’s too noisy and I can’t hit the broadside of a ball with a barn … so to speak.

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    1. I'm SO with you, Paula! Thanks for helping on the test! You are entered! xx

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  35. Paula B here: Yikes, forgot to add my name to the broadside of a ball comment.

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  36. I have heard of pickle ball and we have a court in our small town bit I do not play. I saw Hank on Facebook Reds and Readers page today testing so the event can go live tomorrow.

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  37. Hank sent me. Diana Ramsey

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  38. I haven't tried it, but I want to! Hank Sent me!

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    1. My name is Janice Harris

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    2. Hi, Janice! SO nice to see you here..hurray! You are entered!

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  39. Hank sent me over from Reds and Readers to jump in the conversation! What I know about pickleball would fit on a bread and butter pickle chip.

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  40. Hank sent me! Laurie Hernandez

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    1. And why do we need Pickle Ball when god made Tennis and Ping Pong?! Laurie Hernandez

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    2. HA Laurie-and that is the question! SO the pickleball people could sell stuff? And you are entered!

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  41. I used to be very competitive at racquetball until surgery on my wrist finally forced me to retire my racket about 10 or 15 years ago. My cousin in Colorado told me about this new sport, Pickleball, that was all the rage. He sent me a racket set and balls but I couldn't find anyone local to play at that time. There are courts everywhere here now but I still haven't tried it. 10 years has made a difference on other bodily joints so maybe I have a never-used Pickleball set to pass on to grandkids.

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    1. SOunds like a plan--and Diana, cannot wait to hear from you on Saturday--right here on Jungle Red! With a VERY intriguing question!

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  42. First time I heard of pickleball was on the soap opera The Bold and the Beautiful. Eric told his wife he was playing pickleball but was really having sex with one of his many ex-wives! So pickleball = cheating sex to me! LOL

    Since I got glasses in second grade, any sport where a ball comes at my face is a No No. I just batted the balls away from me so not a great player!

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    1. Hank Phillippi RyanMay 6, 2024 at 7:15 PM

      The old Pickleball excuse. Which, forgive me, sounds like a double entendre. ;-)

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  43. When we visited at The Villages in Florida we saw several new-to-us racket/paddle games going on. Beach tennis, platform tennis, soft tennis. If pickleball isn’t for you, there might be something else that is!

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  44. We are very familiar with the history, & all about pickleball-it began here (where we live) in WA State, on Bainbridge Island by 3 local men in 1965. (See the link for the article I enclosed-enjoy!) Our daughters played pickleball in their School P.E. classes. Our family recently played together at one of our terrific local pickleball court venues for our Daughter's 50th birthday-so fun! It is very popular here, as you can imagine. https://bipickleball.org/history (side note- Our Daughters also played & Lettered on their High School tennis teams, too)

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